Hi, Barbara Proko mentioned this link for an overview of plica polonica: http://www.nuvoforheadlice.com/Plica.htm It's fascinating to find reading that is both fascinating and revolting. The little hair I have left on my head drives me crazy if I don't wash it at least every other day -- I can't imagine letting it go long enough to develop this condition! But I've long wondered just how this was a "cause of death," and now I understand that a lot better. So thanks, Barbara, for this link. Now I just have to resist this urge to shave my head.... Fred Hoffman

Hi Fred and Barbara: Regarding hair and/or lack therof; regrettably, previously available video to the Taras Bulba (1962 version) on Youtube is now unavailable. Even some more obscure non-English language entries are no longer there. I raise this only because of a great scene (historical inaccuracy aside) when the Cossacks cut off their scalp-locks. The scene is not on this clip, but Fred, note the Cossack scalp-lock on Yul Brynner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_IE89RB_oc Very distinguished!!! Lindy Kasperski www.lindykasperski.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred Hoffman Sent: November-18-10 3:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POLAND] plica polonica (koltun) as cause of death Hi, Barbara Proko mentioned this link for an overview of plica polonica: http://www.nuvoforheadlice.com/Plica.htm It's fascinating to find reading that is both fascinating and revolting. The little hair I have left on my head drives me crazy if I don't wash it at least every other day -- I can't imagine letting it go long enough to develop this condition! But I've long wondered just how this was a "cause of death," and now I understand that a lot better. So thanks, Barbara, for this link. Now I just have to resist this urge to shave my head.... Fred Hoffman ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at [email protected] ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lindy, I second your "ad" for Genealogy Unlimited/Interlink. I've been buying (still do) maps from them since before GU retired and sold to Interlink. FYI I was the impetus behind Interlink publishing the Index for the _Polska Atlas Drogowy_ numerous years ago which listed the old wojewo~dztwo of all the villages. I still think that's the best information to have when trying to locate ancestral villages. Debbie Lindy Kasperski wrote: > Thx for the compliment. Bill, I am not in the same league as Debbie!! > > This is a very great link and if I am not mistaken, you can now acquire the > printed maps themselves here: http://www.genealogyunlimited.com/poland.html > > When I first got involved in the mid-1990s, Genealogy Unlimited (Utah) had > the printed collection of the 1:200,000 scale maps. They also had 1:50,000 > scale maps (i.e. 8 separate maps for each of the 1:200,000 grid). Interlink > Bookshop (David Obee, Victoria, B.C. Canada) acquired this collection about > 10 years ago as I recall. I bought my various 1:200,000 scale maps from > Interlink (the ones on here on the Budapest site, > http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm). I even have a > couple of the 1:50,000 maps and these are truly amazing. > > But it now appears Interlink is marketing these 1:100,000 scale maps that > you have alluded to. I stand to be corrected; however, this is just great > and a bonus for those who want the actual printed map itself!! > > Lindy > www.lindykasperski.com > > P.S. I acquired a number of the paper maps from Interlink over the years and > have a complete set covering Galicia (8 in all). One of our pet cats got > into my map storage container last month and partially shredded just one > map, unluckily the one of my Kasperski ancestral village, > Buczacz/Trybuchowce. I will be contacting Interlink if they still have that > (Kolomyja map) map in stock. But this new 1:100,000 set may make this not > necessary. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sheleski, William J > Sent: November-18-10 12:12 PM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: [POLAND] Poland-Germany 1939 Demarcation Line > > As usual, both Debbie and Lindy have given excellent advice on where to > look. Both of these people are precious resources who are unsparing in > sharing their vast knowledge with the rest of us. > > One site I bumbled across a while back is the following: > > http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100 > > It has beautifully detailed 1:100,000 scale Polish Military Maps from 1937. > Depending on the areas of interest, other scales and years are also be > available. > > I live in the Washington DC area and know that the U.S. Library of Congress > does have an incredible map collection. The problem is determining which > ones you want from (literally) thousands of others. There are some finding > aids, but you'd probably have to visit Washington and spend some time here > to pick out what you need. > > Bill Sheleski >

Thanks Bill! I have to say that I've been doing this stuff online for years and much longer pre-computer. A _lot_ of what I learn(ed) came from reading every single (except recipes) post to Polish genealogy lists (2-3). I think it is counter productive to just watch for subjects with my ancestral villages or surnames. The way to learn about how to and where to, (aside from reading books) is by reading the answers and suggestions of more experienced people. A lot of people have the same basic experiences, problems and brick walls. The internet has certainly changed the way we research and the length of time it takes to find information. But, that certainly doesn't mean the internet holds all of the documents. In fact it holds very little in that regard. Just my two grosze~ Debbie Sheleski, William J wrote: > As usual, both Debbie and Lindy have given excellent advice on where to look. Both of these people are precious resources who are unsparing in sharing their vast knowledge with the rest of us. > > One site I bumbled across a while back is the following: > > http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100 > > It has beautifully detailed 1:100,000 scale Polish Military Maps from 1937. Depending on the areas of interest, other scales and years are also be available. > > I live in the Washington DC area and know that the U.S. Library of Congress does have an incredible map collection. The problem is determining which ones you want from (literally) thousands of others. There are some finding aids, but you'd probably have to visit Washington and spend some time here to pick out what you need. > > Bill Sheleski > > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:57:37 +0100 > From: Rivka Schirman <[email protected]> > Subject: [POLAND] loking for detailed maps > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Hello, > > For my PhD disseration I am looking for a detailed map of the partition of Poland between the USSR and Nazi Germany in September 1939. By detailed I mean showing a maximum of specific towns and villages on both sides of the border, not just a general line. ANy one know where I can find such a map ? > > Tks in advance, > > Rivka Schirman n?e Moscisker > Paris, France > >

Hi Fred, Yeah, this explanation of plica polonica gave me a whole new appreciation of easy access to clean water. It also gave me a whole different perspective on why school systems are so vigilant about head lice in little kids. I mean, of course, they don't want any contagious conditions to spread in the classroom, but I had no idea of the far-reaching implications of this condition. (I have to wonder if the ongoing focus is left over from earlier decades when this was a more serious threat to public health in the U.S.) I'd be equally fascinated to gain more insight into the gamut of diseases that might have caused so many of my ancestors to die of "fever." Well, off to shampoo now! Barbara Proko <<Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:50:12 -0500 From: "Fred Hoffman" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [POLAND] plica polonica (koltun) as cause of death To: <[email protected]> Barbara Proko mentioned this link for an overview of plica polonica: http://www.nuvoforheadlice.com/Plica.htm It's fascinating to find reading that is both fascinating and revolting. The little hair I have left on my head drives me crazy if I don't wash it at least every other day -- I can't imagine letting it go long enough to develop this condition! But I've long wondered just how this was a "cause of death," and now I understand that a lot better. So thanks, Barbara, for this link. Now I just have to resist this urge to shave my head.... Fred Hoffman>>

Thx for the compliment. Bill, I am not in the same league as Debbie!! This is a very great link and if I am not mistaken, you can now acquire the printed maps themselves here: http://www.genealogyunlimited.com/poland.html When I first got involved in the mid-1990s, Genealogy Unlimited (Utah) had the printed collection of the 1:200,000 scale maps. They also had 1:50,000 scale maps (i.e. 8 separate maps for each of the 1:200,000 grid). Interlink Bookshop (David Obee, Victoria, B.C. Canada) acquired this collection about 10 years ago as I recall. I bought my various 1:200,000 scale maps from Interlink (the ones on here on the Budapest site, http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm). I even have a couple of the 1:50,000 maps and these are truly amazing. But it now appears Interlink is marketing these 1:100,000 scale maps that you have alluded to. I stand to be corrected; however, this is just great and a bonus for those who want the actual printed map itself!! Lindy www.lindykasperski.com P.S. I acquired a number of the paper maps from Interlink over the years and have a complete set covering Galicia (8 in all). One of our pet cats got into my map storage container last month and partially shredded just one map, unluckily the one of my Kasperski ancestral village, Buczacz/Trybuchowce. I will be contacting Interlink if they still have that (Kolomyja map) map in stock. But this new 1:100,000 set may make this not necessary. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sheleski, William J Sent: November-18-10 12:12 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: [POLAND] Poland-Germany 1939 Demarcation Line As usual, both Debbie and Lindy have given excellent advice on where to look. Both of these people are precious resources who are unsparing in sharing their vast knowledge with the rest of us. One site I bumbled across a while back is the following: http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100 It has beautifully detailed 1:100,000 scale Polish Military Maps from 1937. Depending on the areas of interest, other scales and years are also be available. I live in the Washington DC area and know that the U.S. Library of Congress does have an incredible map collection. The problem is determining which ones you want from (literally) thousands of others. There are some finding aids, but you'd probably have to visit Washington and spend some time here to pick out what you need. Bill Sheleski Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:57:37 +0100 From: Rivka Schirman <[email protected]> Subject: [POLAND] loking for detailed maps To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello, For my PhD disseration I am looking for a detailed map of the partition of Poland between the USSR and Nazi Germany in September 1939. By detailed I mean showing a maximum of specific towns and villages on both sides of the border, not just a general line. ANy one know where I can find such a map ? Tks in advance, Rivka Schirman n?e Moscisker Paris, France ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at [email protected] ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As usual, both Debbie and Lindy have given excellent advice on where to look. Both of these people are precious resources who are unsparing in sharing their vast knowledge with the rest of us. One site I bumbled across a while back is the following: http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100 It has beautifully detailed 1:100,000 scale Polish Military Maps from 1937. Depending on the areas of interest, other scales and years are also be available. I live in the Washington DC area and know that the U.S. Library of Congress does have an incredible map collection. The problem is determining which ones you want from (literally) thousands of others. There are some finding aids, but you'd probably have to visit Washington and spend some time here to pick out what you need. Bill Sheleski Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:57:37 +0100 From: Rivka Schirman <[email protected]> Subject: [POLAND] loking for detailed maps To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello, For my PhD disseration I am looking for a detailed map of the partition of Poland between the USSR and Nazi Germany in September 1939. By detailed I mean showing a maximum of specific towns and villages on both sides of the border, not just a general line. ANy one know where I can find such a map ? Tks in advance, Rivka Schirman n?e Moscisker Paris, France

How absolutely fascinating ! ! From just one query, eh??? I learn so much here ! ! Sandy

Barbara, I had a feeling (ooh) it was lice infestation. Debbie Barbara Proko wrote: > http://www.nuvoforheadlice.com/Plica.htm > > Interesting, lengthy overview of plica polonica and its manifestation over the > centuries in different countries. > > Barbara Proko > researching numerous ancestral lines in the old Lida powiat >

http://www.nuvoforheadlice.com/Plica.htm Interesting, lengthy overview of plica polonica and its manifestation over the centuries in different countries. Barbara Proko researching numerous ancestral lines in the old Lida powiat

On the margins of this discussion I would like to add that in search of people in Poland sometimes can be helpful the portal "Nasza klasa" ("Our Class"): http://nk.pl/ Perhaps this information will be useful to someone, Ewa Turzynska ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Ellis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [POLAND] (Poland) access to polish phone book > Roman, > > This is what I thought the problem was after translating some of the > verbiage on the site. You are correct.. The site is useless to people > trying to find family in Poland. Not every house in the country has a > computer to complete the form to be added to the directory. > > Thank you for confirming my thoughts. > > Tina >

Thank you, Fred -- I think :) -- your information is very interesting -- what a different world we evolved from. Who would have thought! The record page shows another death "by koltun," but it was listed "na koltun" -- the tangles (noun). Now I will be checking other death records for "death by hair." (What a great title for a mystery novel!) I really appreciate all your effort in answering my post. Again, thank you. Karen > > Karen Carpenter wrote: > >> I hope this isn't a repeat question. (I'm new to the list.) My >> gggrandfather's death record lists his cause of death as koltuny which >> translates to tangles. What does that mean? > > The reference books tell you _koltun_ means "trichoma" or "plica > polonica," > an illness connected with matted hair. I didn't know till just now that > English has a term for it: "Polish plait." See here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_plait > > I found this by going to the Polish Wikipedia site and searching for > _koltun_ (with a slash through the L). Here's the Polish page: > > http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko%C5%82tun > > At the left are links to similar pages on the Wikipedia sites for other > languages, one of which is English. And that led me to the article on > "Polish plait." > > This is always worth trying if you're looking for an unfamiliar term. The > Polish Wikipedia may not have anything on it; or if it does, there may be > no > corresponding page in English, or the connection between the two may be > erroneous. Also, you have to get the Polish spelling of the word right, > including the diacritical marks. But a search of the Polish Wikipedia can > prove very helpful. Sometimes, a Google search will lead you to a Polish > Wikipedia page, and that may enable you to bypass the need for inputting > Polish characters with diacriticals. > > I must admit, I've never quite understood how a hairstyle or even a > disease > of the hair could be fatal. But I guess anything that allows inflammation > or > infection can lead to death. Often, these causes of death are not very > scientific. The person filling out the record frequently had no medical > training. He just wrote down whatever was the most prominent symptom, even > if it was only indirectly related to the cause of death -- or, in some > cases, had nothing to do with the death. But if an otherwise > healthy-looking > person died, and the only thing you could find wrong was a massive tangle > of > hair with infection, I guess _koltun_ or the Latin word, _plica_, could > seem > like the right thing to record. I do know from my experience, you run into > _koltun_ and _plica_ as causes of death far more often than you'd expect. > > Anyway, I hope that clarifies things for you! > > Fred Hoffman > Co-Author, _In Their Words ... Vol. 1: Polish_ > www.fredhoff.com

If you cannot find the map on this website, write to the developers. They will know where you can find the 1939 map. http://english.mapywig.org/news.php There are many websites on the Internet with scanned old topo maps, but resources related to Poland are limited. Polish Military Geographical Institute (1919-1939) developed and printed topographic maps which, in the 1930s were rated among the best in the world. Nowadays these maps are a fountain of information about pre-WW2 Poland and, at the same time, can be still used in the field to locate villages which have long disappeared from the ground and cannot be found on modern maps. For these reasons we believe these maps should be made widely accessible and what better way than through the Internet? Although a daunting task we are positive we will manage to collect and present scanned images of all WIG maps and other geographic materials the Institute published.

--- On Tue, 11/16/10, Richard Jeltsch <[email protected]> wrote: > I am looking for information on the background and > parentage of my GG grandfather Charles L. A. Biernatzki who > emigrated from Poland to the US in 1847.  Here is what > I know about him: > >   a.. Born 29 Mar 1819 in Ostrawa, Poland.  >   d.. He married an Irish girl, Margaret Annie Nolan, > in 1850 and they had 5 children. >   e.. He ended up owning a successful farm and > livestock operation in Webster City, Iowa, USA and died > there in 1896. Richard: Identify parents? Where did he marry this Irish girl? Do you have the church marriage record? What does death record say? If I am looking at the correct couple in the census, the oldest son says he was born in Canada. Since you have a South Dakota connection, have you check the Canadian provinces? [email protected]

Hello Rivka: For very detailed maps available online, I always start with the 1910 Austro-Hungarian Military maps 1:200,000 scale, available from the University of Budapest website here: http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm Just click on the appropriate grid that covers the Nazi-Soviet Pact demarcation line. This is far more detailed than you are asking for but it is very informative if you couple these maps with this 1934 Polish Gazetteer: http://www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=12786 Between the two you can get a "feel" of railroad, road and telegraph communications as they existed in Poland, and for you Eastern Poland, in the interwar period. In a private communication with Fred Hoffman a few years ago, he referred to this 1934 gazetteer as a "small gem" of information. Although going back in time, this comparison clarifies many descriptions in the Slownik Geograficzny, http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/. Regarding your specific request, the best I could find quickly is here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~atpc/maps/poland-1938.html Je vous souhaite bonne chance avec votre projet. Lindy Kasperski Regina, SK -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rivka Schirman Sent: November-17-10 2:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [POLAND] loking for detailed maps Hello, For my PhD disseration I am looking for a detailed map of the partition of Poland between the USSR and Nazi Germany in September 1939. By detailed I mean showing a maximum of specific towns and villages on both sides of the border, not just a general line. ANy one know where I can find such a map ? Tks in advance, Rivka Schirman née Moscisker Paris, France ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at [email protected] ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is a great site ! It is so interesting and well done. Thanks! On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Debbie Greenlee wrote: > Rivka, > > I've just started going through my online map collection. Here is the > most recent one I added to my Bookmarks: > > http://polmap.republika.pl/polska1.htm > > I think the problem will be finding an _online_ map that will fit your > needs. > > Debbie > > > Rivka Schirman wrote: >> Hello, >> >> For my PhD disseration I am looking for a detailed map of the >> partition of Poland between the USSR and Nazi Germany in September >> 1939. By detailed I mean showing a maximum of specific towns and >> villages on both sides of the border, not just a general line. ANy >> one know where I can find such a map ? >> >> Tks in advance, >> >> Rivka Schirman née Moscisker >> Paris, France > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at [email protected] > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the > list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this > list: researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message Tiffany Parsons [email protected]

Hello, For my PhD disseration I am looking for a detailed map of the partition of Poland between the USSR and Nazi Germany in September 1939. By detailed I mean showing a maximum of specific towns and villages on both sides of the border, not just a general line. ANy one know where I can find such a map ? Tks in advance, Rivka Schirman née Moscisker Paris, France

Dear List readers, On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 Richard Jeltsch [email protected] wrote about his ancestor Charles Biernatzki. The life story and dates very closely resembled my relative Antoni B. Zaremba. The 2 men are not related, but it caused me to post my own story here, as I wanted Richard to see the similarities. Antoni Boleslaw Zaremba was born in Poland, but at the time it was Prussia. I have been told by another kind researcher that his possible birthplace, or hometown was Zareby Koscielne. This is not proven. He was born about 1816. He joined the Prussian Army at a young age, rose to the rank of Capitan. Then joined the French Army and was sent to Algeria. He rose to the rank of Major. He had some political differences with France and was exiled. He arrived in USA in 1852 and settled permanently in Chicago where he worked at the railroad yard as a machinist. When the US Civil War broke out in 1861 he was commissioned as Captain of the Polish American Guards, a unit from Chicago. However, he continued lifelong to be called Major, as that was his previous highest rank. He married Magdalena Laferski in USA (presumably). She was Polish, but I have never found their marriage record. His USA arrival record has him listed alone, no wife, so I presume he married in Chicago, though no record has been found. I know all about his life, death, children, and grandchildren in USA, but his life in Europe is still a mystery to me. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Ellis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [POLAND] Charles Biernatzki > According to http://mapa.szukacz.pl/, there is only one place in Poland > named Ostrawa. It is most likely in the parish of Wasosz. It would have > been in the Russian Partition. > > According to the Slownik, this page: > http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_VII/677 gives two > places. > The on on this page covers severals pages of data, but does say it was in > Germany. There is another one listed after this one a few pages further > in > the book. > > > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Richard Jeltsch > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dear Rootsweb-Poland >> >> I am looking for information on the background and parentage of my GG >> grandfather Charles L. A. Biernatzki who emigrated from Poland to the US >> in >> 1847. Here is what I know about him: >> >> a.. Born 29 Mar 1819 in Ostrawa, Poland. Unfortunately I don't know >> which >> of the several Ostrawas this was. >> b.. Secured his education at the military academy in St. Petersburg and >> was commissioned in the Russian army (source: Robinson, "History of South >> Dakota" (1904)). Later left the army and joined the government >> engineering >> corps. >> c.. Became "involved" in the revolution of 1847 (against Prussia >> according >> to family legend, but could have been Russia), and was captured and >> sentenced to death. He escaped and someone provided him a German >> passport >> in someone else's name under which he traveled to the United States. I >> have >> this passport in my possession. >> d.. He married an Irish girl, Margaret Annie Nolan, in 1850 and they had >> 5 >> children. >> e.. He ended up owning a successful farm and livestock operation in >> Webster City, Iowa, USA and died there in 1896. >> >> Does anybody have ideas on how to identify his parents? >> >> Thank you >> >> Richard C. Jeltsch >> Spokane, WA USA >> ********************************* >> Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at >> [email protected] >> ---------------------------------- >> Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list >> as >> long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: >> researching our Polish roots. >> ---------------------------------- >> Browse the list's archives here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots >> Search the list's archives here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > [email protected] > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as > long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: > researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Rivka, The U.S. Library of Congress might be able to send you photocopies of the maps you need. I don't know how helpful they are but the main library in Warsaw might also help you. Debbie Rivka Schirman wrote: > Hello, > > For my PhD disseration I am looking for a detailed map of the > partition of Poland between the USSR and Nazi Germany in September > 1939. By detailed I mean showing a maximum of specific towns and > villages on both sides of the border, not just a general line. ANy > one know where I can find such a map ? > > Tks in advance, > > Rivka Schirman née Moscisker > Paris, France >

Rivka, I've just started going through my online map collection. Here is the most recent one I added to my Bookmarks: http://polmap.republika.pl/polska1.htm I think the problem will be finding an _online_ map that will fit your needs. Debbie Rivka Schirman wrote: > Hello, > > For my PhD disseration I am looking for a detailed map of the > partition of Poland between the USSR and Nazi Germany in September > 1939. By detailed I mean showing a maximum of specific towns and > villages on both sides of the border, not just a general line. ANy > one know where I can find such a map ? > > Tks in advance, > > Rivka Schirman née Moscisker > Paris, France