Hi Janet: I was up late last night because our local Saskatchewan football team (the CFL equivalent of the NFL Green Bay Packers) lost Canada's equivalent of the Super Bowl last night (www.tsn.ca) No excuse for a tantrum, however... Having already digressed, I objected to your inquiry on this because you got it from another group i.e. Polish_Genius, an ongoing dialogue over recent days on that forum. You then queried on the POLAND group about Polish historical maps using my name... Fair enough but your inquiry had no identification of who you are... Any name would have sufficed. If you can call me by my first name, then I should do the same to you.. I was being facetious when I linked to my own site: http://www.lindykasperski.com/links.php as I had just uploaded some of the Map links there because of the Polish_Genius thread. Thank you, Janet for introducing yourself. I can only do the same (btw, last I checked, I was a Male!) Lindy Kasperski 15 Irvin Crescent Regina, SK. S4R 5L3 306.545.9715 (home) 306.94.2252 (home office) prefer not to give out cell online www.lindykasperski.com is my personal website. Regretfully, it is not uptodate but my interest in Polish genealogy should be evident, especially if you click on the Family Genealogy drop-down menu -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: November-29-10 7:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [POLAND] Polish historical maps - clarification Thank you, Mike, for stepping up and keeping my reputation "untarnished" by the self-proclaimed tirade of Lindy. And, I apologize to Lindy for not doing my own research to figure out how to use the site she shared. I have found that those familiar enough with a site to share it on a list are usually willing to shorten the learning curve for others by giving a few tips about its use. My email address is admittedly a silly one, selected by me 17 years ago when I first began using email. I didn't have a clue what I was doing. I have no desire to keep my identity hidden. I just didn't think it was that important when using the various lists I'm on, and I've never been challenged about it before. But, for those who care, my full signature is below. Feel free to call me Jan. Sincerely, Janet M. Rogge, President Friends of NARA 10 Conte Drive Pittsfield, MA 01201 413-743-2732 (home) [email protected] 413-236-3600 (NARA) [email protected] www.narafriends-pittsfield.org In a message dated 11/29/2010 8:12:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Lindy, I can tell you that your "tirade" was in response to what I thought was a reasonable request from someone very active in genealogy, who I met about 5 years ago at a genealogy conference and who is as sincere as they come. I was disappointed to read your initial response, because it was so out of character for you, but I know we all have bad days. Although I know it, to be consistent with policy here I'll leave it for 'Gizmo' to provide her name. Regards, ....................Mike Mr. Gizmo: I should probably not reply to this email, as you have not had the common courtesy or etiquette to at least identify yourself. So my apologies to call you Mr. Gizmo. Okay: I took the time to make the links on http://www.lindykasperski.com/links.php Sorry if you have to scroll down to maps. And to be frank, if you read all the emails on the various threads, you can find out for yourself online the explanation that you request. Lindy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: November-27-10 4:39 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [POLAND] Polish historical maps > > Lindy (and others) - Can you offer more explanation about using the > maps > referenced in your post below? > > > > In a message dated 11/27/2010 4:24:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Thanks to Roman (and I think Ceil) for having got me "hooked" on this > series > of Polish historical maps produced in the 1920s and 1930s: > http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100 The Horodenka area is > P54 541. > > Lindy Kasperski > Regina, SK > www.lindykasperski.com > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? 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Jim, The Przemys~l Civil Archives and the Sanok Branch of the Rzeszo~w Civil Archives have "movement" records for people involved in Akcja Wisl~a. The Sanok Branch has more but different records than Przemys~l. Both archive offices normally do research for a fee. Two problems: 1. I don't think you will be given copies of the documents even if they are of your family. When there in person I was only allowed to hand copy Akcja Wisl~a records, not photograph or photocopy them. 2. You have to have specific names and villages. If it were me, I'd write to them (English is OK but the response will be in Polish) and see what they have to say. Ask for the moon and maybe you will get a star. In other words ask for photocopies or photographs (then put on CD - yes, they do this) of everything and see what they say. Debbie Jim DeGraff wrote: > Debbie, > > I am almost certain that the family(s) I am seeking did live in Poland as it > was defined between WWI and WWII, but this is inferred from sparse evidence. > I can only guess that they were "moved" against their wishes to Wrocl~aw (at > least one family member to Szczecin) from wherever they previously lived in > Poland, which is probably Lwo~w but could have been farther east in Galicia > from the town of Podwol~oczyska. > > Jim DeGraff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debbie Greenlee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:28 AM > Subject: Re: [POLAND] (Poland) access to polish phone book - Other Options? > > >> Jim, >> >> Ah, that's different! >> Do you know if your family lived in "Poland" just before Akcja Wisl~a? >> Do you know if they left Lwo~w on their own accord or as a result of >> Akcja Rzeszo~w? >> >> There are records available _in_ Poland which should track your >> family. More when you answer my questions. >> >> Debbie >> >> Jim DeGraff wrote: >>> Debbie, >>> >>> Thanks for the reply with some good tips that I haven't yet tried. I'll >>> check into those name distribution maps again to see if I can get some >>> additional insight. Maybe I can also get enough information to send >>> letters >>> to a few parishes. >>> >>> One problem is that my ancestors came from a part of former Poland >>> (eastern >>> Galicia) that is now a part of Ukraine. As various armies marched back >>> and >>> forth through the region (we all know that story), my ancestors >>> progressively moved west, the final move for some being Operation >>> Vistula. >>> I know where some of them ended up, but I don't know where exactly they >>> started nor where they were baptized. Some ended up in Wrocl~aw, and >>> there >>> is evidence that they were in L'wow prior to that. I'm hoping to locate >>> documents related to my g-grandmothers U.S. visa application made in >>> Warsaw >>> about 1927, which could help to clear up some of the mystery. In the >>> meantime, if I could just find some descendants in Poland..... I'm >>> currently trying some Google searches and Facebook to see what I can >>> dredge >>> up. >>> >>> Jim DeGraff >>> Houston, TX >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Debbie Greenlee" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:36 AM >>> Subject: Re: [POLAND] (Poland) access to polish phone book - Other >>> Options? >>> >>> >>>> Jim, >>>> >>>> A suggestion I took from the book _Polish Roots_ by Rosemary Chorzempa >>>> is to write to the parish priest (where your ancestor was baptized), >>>> in Polish, asking if there is anyone in his parish with that surname. >>>> You can include a separate letter for the priest to give those people. >>>> Make sure to ask the priest how you can make a donation to the >>>> parish. This all presumes you know the parish your ancestors lived in. >>>> >>>> Several Polish genealogical societies have Polish telephone books and >>>> charge a small fee to look-up names. The problem with Polish telephone >>>> books is that they include a whole wojewo~dztwo separated by villages >>>> and cities. This means if a person doesn't know the village in which >>>> his ancestor was born (could be different than the parish village) it >>>> could take over an hour to go through every village looking for a >>>> particular surname. If a society charges $5.00 to do one look-up, it's >>>> a bargain. Polish Genealogical Society of America in Chicago and the >>>> Polish Genealogical Society of Connecticut and the Northeast both do >>>> look-ups in Polish telephone books. >>>> >>>> I used to do this but ended up sending most of my books to the PGSA. >>>> >>>> Something else you can check is the 2002 edition of Professor Rymut's >>>> data base, titled, "Dictionary of Surnames in Current Use in Poland at >>>> the Beginning of the 21st Century". I think this is online but if not >>>> you can buy it from the PGSA. OR you can check the 1990 edition which >>>> is not as specific as the 2002 version. Also the 1990 edition, which >>>> is online, is best viewed on Internet Explorer. Rymut died a few years >>>> ago and I don't think the site has been upgraded to perform as well on >>>> the newer browsers. >>>> >>>> So, what do you learn from using the above mentioned data bases? You >>>> find out how many people with a particular surname lived in a >>>> particular old wojewo~dztwo (1990 edition) or powiat (2002 edition). >>>> If you have a common name forget the whole thing. However, if you have >>>> an uncommon name then this database can be very helpful. >>>> Example. I searched (1990 edition) on the name Tomalski and found >>>> there were 774 people in Poland with that surname in 1990. In the old >>>> woj. of Bydgoszcz there were 8. (I happen to know three of them and >>>> those three don't know the other 5.) Of course, 774 is too large a >>>> number to do anything with. But, if I knew that "my" Tomalskis lived >>>> in the old woj. of Bial~ystok, then I might try going further with this. >>>> >>>> If you know your ancestor's village (won't work with a city) you can >>>> try something else. You can send a letter to the "family of _____ " >>>> in that village and see what happens. This letter needs to be written >>>> carefully so that the recipient doesn't think this is a scheme from >>>> America. It has to be in Polish and you have to state that you're only >>>> interested in locating family and nothing else (no land grabbing >>>> intentions). It helps to include a family tree (the diagram) and >>>> perhaps copies of old photos of people who came from that village. You >>>> have to make a connection. Include a self-addressed envelope (no >>>> stamps) as well. Then you wait. If there are several families in the >>>> village with your surname, hopefully your letter will get passed >>>> around. You could also ask that the recipient do just that. >>>> >>>> Need a postal code? I happen to have a data base that lists them. It >>>> works best for villages though and not cities. >>>> >>>> That's all I got! >>>> >>>> Debbie >>>> >>>> >>>> Jim DeGraff wrote: >>>>> The recent discussion about using online Polish telephone directories >>>>> to >>>>> locate family in Poland begs a more general question. If one knows the >>>>> name >>>>> of a family member, say a male who's name did not change upon marriage, >>>>> and >>>>> an approximate location, what options are available for tracking down >>>>> such a >>>>> person assuming they are still living in Poland? What have other list >>>>> members tried that works? >>>>> >>>>> Jim DeGraff >>>>> Houston, TX >>>>>

Researchers, Matthew Bielawa offers background information and direction in finding records for Polish families moved at the end of WWII. Please see his informative website at: http://halgal.com/pur_home.html Ceil

Thank you, Mike, for stepping up and keeping my reputation "untarnished" by the self-proclaimed tirade of Lindy. And, I apologize to Lindy for not doing my own research to figure out how to use the site she shared. I have found that those familiar enough with a site to share it on a list are usually willing to shorten the learning curve for others by giving a few tips about its use. My email address is admittedly a silly one, selected by me 17 years ago when I first began using email. I didn't have a clue what I was doing. I have no desire to keep my identity hidden. I just didn't think it was that important when using the various lists I'm on, and I've never been challenged about it before. But, for those who care, my full signature is below. Feel free to call me Jan. Sincerely, Janet M. Rogge, President Friends of NARA 10 Conte Drive Pittsfield, MA 01201 413-743-2732 (home) [email protected] 413-236-3600 (NARA) [email protected] www.narafriends-pittsfield.org In a message dated 11/29/2010 8:12:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Lindy, I can tell you that your "tirade" was in response to what I thought was a reasonable request from someone very active in genealogy, who I met about 5 years ago at a genealogy conference and who is as sincere as they come. I was disappointed to read your initial response, because it was so out of character for you, but I know we all have bad days. Although I know it, to be consistent with policy here I'll leave it for 'Gizmo' to provide her name. Regards, ....................Mike Mr. Gizmo: I should probably not reply to this email, as you have not had the common courtesy or etiquette to at least identify yourself. So my apologies to call you Mr. Gizmo. Okay: I took the time to make the links on http://www.lindykasperski.com/links.php Sorry if you have to scroll down to maps. And to be frank, if you read all the emails on the various threads, you can find out for yourself online the explanation that you request. Lindy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: November-27-10 4:39 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [POLAND] Polish historical maps > > Lindy (and others) - Can you offer more explanation about using the > maps > referenced in your post below? > > > > In a message dated 11/27/2010 4:24:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Thanks to Roman (and I think Ceil) for having got me "hooked" on this > series > of Polish historical maps produced in the 1920s and 1930s: > http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100 The Horodenka area is > P54 541. > > Lindy Kasperski > Regina, SK > www.lindykasperski.com > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > [email protected] > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the > list as > long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: > researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? 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Lindy, I can tell you that your "tirade" was in response to what I thought was a reasonable request from someone very active in genealogy, who I met about 5 years ago at a genealogy conference and who is as sincere as they come. I was disappointed to read your initial response, because it was so out of character for you, but I know we all have bad days. Although I know it, to be consistent with policy here I'll leave it for 'Gizmo' to provide her name. Regards, ....................Mike On Nov 29, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Lindy Kasperski wrote: > Of course this last tirade of mine was off base. POLAND can not > divulge > anything that a member has not already entered. And I am so sorry if I > suggested any of our information could be put online. Lindy > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lindy > Kasperski > Sent: November-29-10 6:07 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [POLAND] FW: Polish historical maps > > It just occurred to me that Mr. Gizmo must be a member of POLAND. > My > bad..... Can our website control identify [email protected] to put > this in > perspective. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lindy Kasperski [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: November-29-10 4:33 AM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: RE: [POLAND] Polish historical maps > > Mr. Gizmo: > > I should probably not reply to this email, as you have not had the > common > courtesy or etiquette to at least identify yourself. So my > apologies to > call you Mr. Gizmo. > > Okay: I took the time to make the links on > http://www.lindykasperski.com/links.php Sorry if you have to scroll > down to > maps. > > And to be frank, if you read all the emails on the various threads, > you can > find out for yourself online the explanation that you request. > > Lindy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: November-27-10 4:39 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [POLAND] Polish historical maps > > Lindy (and others) - Can you offer more explanation about using the > maps > referenced in your post below? > > > > In a message dated 11/27/2010 4:24:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Thanks to Roman (and I think Ceil) for having got me "hooked" on this > series > of Polish historical maps produced in the 1920s and 1930s: > http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100 The Horodenka area is > P54 541. > > Lindy Kasperski > Regina, SK > www.lindykasperski.com > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > [email protected] > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the > list as > long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: > researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > [email protected] > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the > list as > long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: > researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at [email protected] > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the > list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this > list: researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Of course this last tirade of mine was off base. POLAND can not divulge anything that a member has not already entered. And I am so sorry if I suggested any of our information could be put online. Lindy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lindy Kasperski Sent: November-29-10 6:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [POLAND] FW: Polish historical maps It just occurred to me that Mr. Gizmo must be a member of POLAND. My bad..... Can our website control identify [email protected] to put this in perspective. -----Original Message----- From: Lindy Kasperski [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: November-29-10 4:33 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [POLAND] Polish historical maps Mr. Gizmo: I should probably not reply to this email, as you have not had the common courtesy or etiquette to at least identify yourself. So my apologies to call you Mr. Gizmo. Okay: I took the time to make the links on http://www.lindykasperski.com/links.php Sorry if you have to scroll down to maps. And to be frank, if you read all the emails on the various threads, you can find out for yourself online the explanation that you request. Lindy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: November-27-10 4:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [POLAND] Polish historical maps Lindy (and others) - Can you offer more explanation about using the maps referenced in your post below? In a message dated 11/27/2010 4:24:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks to Roman (and I think Ceil) for having got me "hooked" on this series of Polish historical maps produced in the 1920s and 1930s: http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100 The Horodenka area is P54 541. Lindy Kasperski Regina, SK www.lindykasperski.com ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at [email protected] ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at [email protected] ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It just occurred to me that Mr. Gizmo must be a member of POLAND. My bad..... Can our website control identify [email protected] to put this in perspective. -----Original Message----- From: Lindy Kasperski [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: November-29-10 4:33 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [POLAND] Polish historical maps Mr. Gizmo: I should probably not reply to this email, as you have not had the common courtesy or etiquette to at least identify yourself. So my apologies to call you Mr. Gizmo. Okay: I took the time to make the links on http://www.lindykasperski.com/links.php Sorry if you have to scroll down to maps. And to be frank, if you read all the emails on the various threads, you can find out for yourself online the explanation that you request. Lindy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: November-27-10 4:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [POLAND] Polish historical maps Lindy (and others) - Can you offer more explanation about using the maps referenced in your post below? In a message dated 11/27/2010 4:24:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks to Roman (and I think Ceil) for having got me "hooked" on this series of Polish historical maps produced in the 1920s and 1930s: http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100 The Horodenka area is P54 541. Lindy Kasperski Regina, SK www.lindykasperski.com ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at [email protected] ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mr. Gizmo: I should probably not reply to this email, as you have not had the common courtesy or etiquette to at least identify yourself. So my apologies to call you Mr. Gizmo. Okay: I took the time to make the links on http://www.lindykasperski.com/links.php Sorry if you have to scroll down to maps. And to be frank, if you read all the emails on the various threads, you can find out for yourself online the explanation that you request. Lindy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: November-27-10 4:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [POLAND] Polish historical maps Lindy (and others) - Can you offer more explanation about using the maps referenced in your post below? In a message dated 11/27/2010 4:24:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks to Roman (and I think Ceil) for having got me "hooked" on this series of Polish historical maps produced in the 1920s and 1930s: http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100 The Horodenka area is P54 541. Lindy Kasperski Regina, SK www.lindykasperski.com ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at [email protected] ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Debbie, I am almost certain that the family(s) I am seeking did live in Poland as it was defined between WWI and WWII, but this is inferred from sparse evidence. I can only guess that they were "moved" against their wishes to Wrocl~aw (at least one family member to Szczecin) from wherever they previously lived in Poland, which is probably Lwo~w but could have been farther east in Galicia from the town of Podwol~oczyska. Jim DeGraff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Greenlee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [POLAND] (Poland) access to polish phone book - Other Options? > Jim, > > Ah, that's different! > Do you know if your family lived in "Poland" just before Akcja Wisl~a? > Do you know if they left Lwo~w on their own accord or as a result of > Akcja Rzeszo~w? > > There are records available _in_ Poland which should track your > family. More when you answer my questions. > > Debbie > > Jim DeGraff wrote: >> Debbie, >> >> Thanks for the reply with some good tips that I haven't yet tried. I'll >> check into those name distribution maps again to see if I can get some >> additional insight. Maybe I can also get enough information to send >> letters >> to a few parishes. >> >> One problem is that my ancestors came from a part of former Poland >> (eastern >> Galicia) that is now a part of Ukraine. As various armies marched back >> and >> forth through the region (we all know that story), my ancestors >> progressively moved west, the final move for some being Operation >> Vistula. >> I know where some of them ended up, but I don't know where exactly they >> started nor where they were baptized. Some ended up in Wrocl~aw, and >> there >> is evidence that they were in L'wow prior to that. I'm hoping to locate >> documents related to my g-grandmothers U.S. visa application made in >> Warsaw >> about 1927, which could help to clear up some of the mystery. In the >> meantime, if I could just find some descendants in Poland..... I'm >> currently trying some Google searches and Facebook to see what I can >> dredge >> up. >> >> Jim DeGraff >> Houston, TX >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Debbie Greenlee" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [POLAND] (Poland) access to polish phone book - Other >> Options? >> >> >>> Jim, >>> >>> A suggestion I took from the book _Polish Roots_ by Rosemary Chorzempa >>> is to write to the parish priest (where your ancestor was baptized), >>> in Polish, asking if there is anyone in his parish with that surname. >>> You can include a separate letter for the priest to give those people. >>> Make sure to ask the priest how you can make a donation to the >>> parish. This all presumes you know the parish your ancestors lived in. >>> >>> Several Polish genealogical societies have Polish telephone books and >>> charge a small fee to look-up names. The problem with Polish telephone >>> books is that they include a whole wojewo~dztwo separated by villages >>> and cities. This means if a person doesn't know the village in which >>> his ancestor was born (could be different than the parish village) it >>> could take over an hour to go through every village looking for a >>> particular surname. If a society charges $5.00 to do one look-up, it's >>> a bargain. Polish Genealogical Society of America in Chicago and the >>> Polish Genealogical Society of Connecticut and the Northeast both do >>> look-ups in Polish telephone books. >>> >>> I used to do this but ended up sending most of my books to the PGSA. >>> >>> Something else you can check is the 2002 edition of Professor Rymut's >>> data base, titled, "Dictionary of Surnames in Current Use in Poland at >>> the Beginning of the 21st Century". I think this is online but if not >>> you can buy it from the PGSA. OR you can check the 1990 edition which >>> is not as specific as the 2002 version. Also the 1990 edition, which >>> is online, is best viewed on Internet Explorer. Rymut died a few years >>> ago and I don't think the site has been upgraded to perform as well on >>> the newer browsers. >>> >>> So, what do you learn from using the above mentioned data bases? You >>> find out how many people with a particular surname lived in a >>> particular old wojewo~dztwo (1990 edition) or powiat (2002 edition). >>> If you have a common name forget the whole thing. However, if you have >>> an uncommon name then this database can be very helpful. >>> Example. I searched (1990 edition) on the name Tomalski and found >>> there were 774 people in Poland with that surname in 1990. In the old >>> woj. of Bydgoszcz there were 8. (I happen to know three of them and >>> those three don't know the other 5.) Of course, 774 is too large a >>> number to do anything with. But, if I knew that "my" Tomalskis lived >>> in the old woj. of Bial~ystok, then I might try going further with this. >>> >>> If you know your ancestor's village (won't work with a city) you can >>> try something else. You can send a letter to the "family of _____ " >>> in that village and see what happens. This letter needs to be written >>> carefully so that the recipient doesn't think this is a scheme from >>> America. It has to be in Polish and you have to state that you're only >>> interested in locating family and nothing else (no land grabbing >>> intentions). It helps to include a family tree (the diagram) and >>> perhaps copies of old photos of people who came from that village. You >>> have to make a connection. Include a self-addressed envelope (no >>> stamps) as well. Then you wait. If there are several families in the >>> village with your surname, hopefully your letter will get passed >>> around. You could also ask that the recipient do just that. >>> >>> Need a postal code? I happen to have a data base that lists them. It >>> works best for villages though and not cities. >>> >>> That's all I got! >>> >>> Debbie >>> >>> >>> Jim DeGraff wrote: >>>> The recent discussion about using online Polish telephone directories >>>> to >>>> locate family in Poland begs a more general question. If one knows the >>>> name >>>> of a family member, say a male who's name did not change upon marriage, >>>> and >>>> an approximate location, what options are available for tracking down >>>> such a >>>> person assuming they are still living in Poland? What have other list >>>> members tried that works? >>>> >>>> Jim DeGraff >>>> Houston, TX >>>> >>>> >>> ********************************* >>> Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at >>> [email protected] >>> ---------------------------------- >>> Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list >>> as >>> long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: >>> researching our Polish roots. >>> ---------------------------------- >>> Browse the list's archives here: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots >>> Search the list's archives here: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ********************************* >> Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at >> [email protected] >> ---------------------------------- >> Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list >> as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: >> researching our Polish roots. >> ---------------------------------- >> Browse the list's archives here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots >> Search the list's archives here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ********************************* > Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at > [email protected] > ---------------------------------- > Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as > long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: > researching our Polish roots. > ---------------------------------- > Browse the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots > Search the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What a valuable resource! I am a new member, but have learned so much already. Thank you, Poland-Roots members! Karen Carpenter > > Thanks to Roman (and I think Ceil) for having got me "hooked" on this > series > of Polish historical maps produced in the 1920s and 1930s: > http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100 The Horodenka area is P54 > 541. > > Lindy Kasperski > Regina, SK > www.lindykasperski.com

Lindy (and others) - Can you offer more explanation about using the maps referenced in your post below? In a message dated 11/27/2010 4:24:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks to Roman (and I think Ceil) for having got me "hooked" on this series of Polish historical maps produced in the 1920s and 1930s: http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100 The Horodenka area is P54 541. Lindy Kasperski Regina, SK www.lindykasperski.com

Hi Jeffrey: I can help you a bit on this. First "Leopoliensis" is Latin for Lemberg (German), Lwow (Polish) and Lviv (Ukrainian). The ancestral area you are inquiring about is about 60kms due south of our Kasperski family ancestral home. We were in the district of Buczacz you were in the district of Horodenka. This area was Eastern Galicia up to 1918, then Poland to 1939, and then part of Ukraine since 1944. There were Roman Catholic and Greek Catholic parishes. As Ukrainians were the majority, there were many more of the latter than the former. Our village Trybuchowce, along with a dozen or so other villages was served by the RC parish of Buczacz. Trybuchowce had its own Greek Catholic parish. By the names you have provided, I suspect the persons you are inquiring about were Poles i.e. Roman Catholics. For example my father is Maryan Kasperski (1927- ) and my grandfather Wojciech Kasperski (1897-1978) were born there. I have their baptismal certificates, so I have a reasonable understanding of the document you are looking at. I You can definitely access records for this area but I would first try and ascertain for certain if the ancestor in question was born in the town/city of Horodenka or an outlying village. If you can scan and post the baptismal certificate there are many very knowledgeable and helpful members of this group who can help. Thanks to Roman (and I think Ceil) for having got me "hooked" on this series of Polish historical maps produced in the 1920s and 1930s: http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100 The Horodenka area is P54 541. Lindy Kasperski Regina, SK www.lindykasperski.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeffrey & Kristina Bunce Sent: November-26-10 9:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [POLAND] Joseph Nowak & Helena Messlin - Galicia, Poland 1890's I am search for documentation about Joseph Nowak, his wife & his parents when his family resided in Galicia Austria/Poland 1891 and after. Looking at an original Baptism Certificate for his oldest child Edward (which is difficult to understand/read), he was born in the city of Horodenka in the "Leopoliensis" archdiocese [unable to decipher the "parochia" - parish?] . What I do know is he married Helena Messlin [1872 - 5/25/1949, daughter of Ferdinand and Antonia] in 1891 and they had 4 children, all born in Poland - Edward (12/25/1892), Maryan (12/26/1894), Anna (1897) & Robert (2/01/1898). Any information/documentation which can be uncovered would be most appreciated not only by myself but by Joseph's 90 year-old grandson, my father-in-law.!! Thank you in advance for any assistance and any costs will be reimbursed. Please feel free to contact me directly at [email protected] -- Jeffrey ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at [email protected] ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am search for documentation about Joseph Nowak, his wife & his parents when his family resided in Galicia Austria/Poland 1891 and after. Looking at an original Baptism Certificate for his oldest child Edward (which is difficult to understand/read), he was born in the city of Horodenka in the "Leopoliensis" archdiocese [unable to decipher the "parochia" - parish?] . What I do know is he married Helena Messlin [1872 - 5/25/1949, daughter of Ferdinand and Antonia] in 1891 and they had 4 children, all born in Poland - Edward (12/25/1892), Maryan (12/26/1894), Anna (1897) & Robert (2/01/1898). Any information/documentation which can be uncovered would be most appreciated not only by myself but by Joseph's 90 year-old grandson, my father-in-law.!! Thank you in advance for any assistance and any costs will be reimbursed. Please feel free to contact me directly at [email protected] -- Jeffrey

I got the same response re' bindweed. Sandy

My Virus checking software reports the bindweed site below as unsafe. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bronwyn Klimach Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [POLAND] Noskow Parish, Kalisz Paul, I don't know what years you are interested in, but this database is a good place to begin looking for names: http://bindweed.man.poznan.pl/posen/search.php Kind regards, Bronwyn. On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:29 PM, ROOT, PAUL E <[email protected]>wrote: > Greetings to the Group: > > > > I recently learned that my Pawlik/Pawlak ancestors are from Noskow > Parish which is near the town of Kalisz , near Poznan. Is anyone > in the group familiar with this part of Poland? Thank you! > > > > Paul E Root > ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at [email protected] ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Paul: My second cousin Stefania Jankowska was born in 1952 in the Kalisz area (our ancestral roots are in Galicia, former Eastern Poland and a long complicated history). Stefania married Andrzej Pawlak and the first of their children was born in 1976. I have been there, Kalisz, in 1996, 1997, 2001 and 2003. I can easily inquire about this parish and the family of Andrzej Pawlak. Lindy Kasperski www.lindykasperski.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ROOT, PAUL E Sent: November-24-10 12:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [POLAND] Noskow Parish, Kalisz Greetings to the Group: I recently learned that my Pawlik/Pawlak ancestors are from Noskow Parish which is near the town of Kalisz , near Poznan. Is anyone in the group familiar with this part of Poland? Thank you! Paul E Root CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise be protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ********************************* Need to contact the list manager? Write to Marie at [email protected] ---------------------------------- Discussion of Polish food, culture, and customs are welcome on the list as long as the discussion stays pertinent to the topic of this list: researching our Polish roots. ---------------------------------- Browse the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=poland-roots Search the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paul, I don't know what years you are interested in, but this database is a good place to begin looking for names: http://bindweed.man.poznan.pl/posen/search.php Kind regards, Bronwyn. On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:29 PM, ROOT, PAUL E <[email protected]>wrote: > Greetings to the Group: > > > > I recently learned that my Pawlik/Pawlak ancestors are from Noskow > Parish which is near the town of Kalisz , near Poznan. Is anyone > in the group familiar with this part of Poland? Thank you! > > > > Paul E Root >

Greetings to the Group: I recently learned that my Pawlik/Pawlak ancestors are from Noskow Parish which is near the town of Kalisz , near Poznan. Is anyone in the group familiar with this part of Poland? Thank you! Paul E Root CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise be protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

Jim, Ah, that's different! Do you know if your family lived in "Poland" just before Akcja Wisl~a? Do you know if they left Lwo~w on their own accord or as a result of Akcja Rzeszo~w? There are records available _in_ Poland which should track your family. More when you answer my questions. Debbie Jim DeGraff wrote: > Debbie, > > Thanks for the reply with some good tips that I haven't yet tried. I'll > check into those name distribution maps again to see if I can get some > additional insight. Maybe I can also get enough information to send letters > to a few parishes. > > One problem is that my ancestors came from a part of former Poland (eastern > Galicia) that is now a part of Ukraine. As various armies marched back and > forth through the region (we all know that story), my ancestors > progressively moved west, the final move for some being Operation Vistula. > I know where some of them ended up, but I don't know where exactly they > started nor where they were baptized. Some ended up in Wrocl~aw, and there > is evidence that they were in L'wow prior to that. I'm hoping to locate > documents related to my g-grandmothers U.S. visa application made in Warsaw > about 1927, which could help to clear up some of the mystery. In the > meantime, if I could just find some descendants in Poland..... I'm > currently trying some Google searches and Facebook to see what I can dredge > up. > > Jim DeGraff > Houston, TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debbie Greenlee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:36 AM > Subject: Re: [POLAND] (Poland) access to polish phone book - Other Options? > > >> Jim, >> >> A suggestion I took from the book _Polish Roots_ by Rosemary Chorzempa >> is to write to the parish priest (where your ancestor was baptized), >> in Polish, asking if there is anyone in his parish with that surname. >> You can include a separate letter for the priest to give those people. >> Make sure to ask the priest how you can make a donation to the >> parish. This all presumes you know the parish your ancestors lived in. >> >> Several Polish genealogical societies have Polish telephone books and >> charge a small fee to look-up names. The problem with Polish telephone >> books is that they include a whole wojewo~dztwo separated by villages >> and cities. This means if a person doesn't know the village in which >> his ancestor was born (could be different than the parish village) it >> could take over an hour to go through every village looking for a >> particular surname. If a society charges $5.00 to do one look-up, it's >> a bargain. Polish Genealogical Society of America in Chicago and the >> Polish Genealogical Society of Connecticut and the Northeast both do >> look-ups in Polish telephone books. >> >> I used to do this but ended up sending most of my books to the PGSA. >> >> Something else you can check is the 2002 edition of Professor Rymut's >> data base, titled, "Dictionary of Surnames in Current Use in Poland at >> the Beginning of the 21st Century". I think this is online but if not >> you can buy it from the PGSA. OR you can check the 1990 edition which >> is not as specific as the 2002 version. Also the 1990 edition, which >> is online, is best viewed on Internet Explorer. Rymut died a few years >> ago and I don't think the site has been upgraded to perform as well on >> the newer browsers. >> >> So, what do you learn from using the above mentioned data bases? You >> find out how many people with a particular surname lived in a >> particular old wojewo~dztwo (1990 edition) or powiat (2002 edition). >> If you have a common name forget the whole thing. However, if you have >> an uncommon name then this database can be very helpful. >> Example. I searched (1990 edition) on the name Tomalski and found >> there were 774 people in Poland with that surname in 1990. In the old >> woj. of Bydgoszcz there were 8. (I happen to know three of them and >> those three don't know the other 5.) Of course, 774 is too large a >> number to do anything with. But, if I knew that "my" Tomalskis lived >> in the old woj. of Bial~ystok, then I might try going further with this. >> >> If you know your ancestor's village (won't work with a city) you can >> try something else. You can send a letter to the "family of _____ " >> in that village and see what happens. This letter needs to be written >> carefully so that the recipient doesn't think this is a scheme from >> America. It has to be in Polish and you have to state that you're only >> interested in locating family and nothing else (no land grabbing >> intentions). It helps to include a family tree (the diagram) and >> perhaps copies of old photos of people who came from that village. You >> have to make a connection. Include a self-addressed envelope (no >> stamps) as well. Then you wait. If there are several families in the >> village with your surname, hopefully your letter will get passed >> around. You could also ask that the recipient do just that. >> >> Need a postal code? I happen to have a data base that lists them. It >> works best for villages though and not cities. >> >> That's all I got! >> >> Debbie >> >> >> Jim DeGraff wrote: >>> The recent discussion about using online Polish telephone directories to >>> locate family in Poland begs a more general question. If one knows the >>> name >>> of a family member, say a male who's name did not change upon marriage, >>> and >>> an approximate location, what options are available for tracking down >>> such a >>> person assuming they are still living in Poland? What have other list >>> members tried that works? >>> >>> Jim DeGraff >>> Houston, TX >>> >>> >> ********************************* >> Need to contact the list manager? 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Bill Rutkowski - I saw your name on the List and it prompted me to ask you a question: Are you by any chance related to the Catholic nun, Sister M. Neomisia Rutkowska (1898-1998)? Born "Josephine", she was the daughter of "Francis and Mary Rutkowski" of "Philadelphia". Apparently, among many other things, she was a prominent educator and scholar - she wrote a small book, published by the Polish Roman Catholic Union of Chicago in 1943, about my g.g.-grandfather, John [Jan] Tyssowski (1811-1857). Perhaps you may have come across her name in researching your Polish roots... or possibly Francis and Mary Rutkowski are relatives of yours. I have no idea how common the name RUTKOWSKI (-SKA) might be - but it's certainly worth a shot! I realize that I am clutching at straws here but I have always been very curious about what Sister Rutkowska's connection was, exactly, with John Tyssowski's descendants, and what led her to write this wonderful little biography which represents our primary source in English about the life of my g.g.-grandfather. There are now probably hundreds of his descendants in America since his arrival here in 1848 as a Polish exile and patriot. Tyssowski was a prolific contributor to Polish (and German) newspapers of the day and a noted public speaker, a champion of the "Polish Cause". I would be happy to hear from anyone else having knowledge of Sister M. Neomisia Rutkowska, her work and connections to the Polish community of the mid-20th Century. (There are several references online but I am looking specifically for information regarding her motivation in writing a biography of John Tyssowski). Much of our work as genealogists seems to be made up of a series of "long shots" and is often serendipitous in the extreme! Sincerely, Frank Johnson