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    1. Re: Arasim
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RdC.2ACI/117.339.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1 Message Board Post: With so many Franks, and Johns, and Joes :) in this family, it sometimes is a circus, I better make sure I put them into my program correctly. Thanks! J

    09/14/2004 08:52:04
    1. Re: Arasim
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RdC.2ACI/117.339.1.1.1.1.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Well, I don't doubt Aunt Stella (lol)...it's just looking at the tree lines you sent...it matches up to the other by placement. Just recheck when you sit down with it. K

    09/14/2004 08:50:14
    1. Re: Arasim
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RdC.2ACI/117.339.1.1.1.1.3.1 Message Board Post: My aunt Stella seemed quite adamant that Peter and Frank were cousins, but I will ask her if Frank wouldn't have been his uncle. That would answer alot of questions! I haven't had much time lately to look at the notes you sent me. Just got back from Lake Tahoe for a cousins wedding. To fill in my link, I am Jean Kostelny's grandaughter. She married a Kichak and they had 7 children. I will send more info to you soon! Thanks again JoAnn

    09/14/2004 08:46:18
    1. Re: Arasim
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RdC.2ACI/117.339.1.1.1.1.3 Message Board Post: You know JoAnn...looking at the tree. Wouldn't Frank/Appolonia be Peter's Uncle and Aunt?? Isn't the missing link there...Peter's father, being an Arasim...and being a sibling to Frank? Correct my assumptions if I'm wrong. Kelley

    09/13/2004 08:26:37
    1. Re: Malinowka, Bialystok, Poland
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RdC.2ACI/28.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Could it have been Raczki?

    09/11/2004 04:06:28
    1. Re: Malinowka, Bialystok, Poland
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RdC.2ACI/28.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the info, Tina. This is my son-in-law's line, Milanowski. Anthony Milanowski came to Grand Ripids about 1892 with his future wife's brother, Kolenda. I will have to get out my file as I have not looked at it in several years. I think I have some papers on two of the Kolenda brothers that list Suwalki and Ritki...if that is spelled right. I know I once found it on a map. I will have to follow up with all your info. Thanks again!

    09/11/2004 03:13:28
    1. Re: SWIACKI (SWATSKI); BERLINSKY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RdC.2ACI/503.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I would try the Jeleniewo, Suwalki and Wigry records, which the LDS have on microfilm. They have the Caholic records. Good luck to you. Tina

    09/11/2004 01:40:28
    1. Re: Malinowka, Bialystok, Poland
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RdC.2ACI/28.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Nancy, Please be sure to read the letter I just sent to William. There is Omilian info in it, which you can use. There is one person in the city of Suwalki with the surname of Kolenda. Unfortunately, since it is a large city, you would have to have the street address. All the telephone books in Poland give is the name of the street ... no house number. If you speak Polish, I can give you their phone number. I was not able to find a place named Ritki in Poland. Could it be misspelled? Tina Ellis

    09/11/2004 01:19:34
    1. Re: Malinowka, Bialystok, Poland
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RdC.2ACI/28.1.2 Message Board Post: William, There are still people named Omilian living in Malinowka. Three of them have telephones according to the Suwalki area phone book I have from 2002. They are Gerwazy, Mieczyslaw and Mieczyslaw Waclaw. I guess the one Mieczyslaw decided to post his middle name in the phone book because of the other one in the village. If you wish to write to them to see if they or an elderly member of their family may remember your family, this is how you would address your envelope: Name wies Malinowka 16-423 Bakalarzewo woj, Podlaskie Polska - Poland The parish for Malinowka is Bakalarzewo. It has been there since the 16th century. sw.Jakuba Apostola 16-423 BakaƂarzewo ul. Rynek 17a woj. Podlaskie Polska - Poland The LDS have Roman Catholic records from 1607 through 1880 and Jewish records from 1826 though 1878. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=topicdetails&subject=429032&subject_disp=Poland%2C+Bia%C5%82ystok%2C+Baka%C5%82arzewo+%28Suwa%C5%82ki%29+%2D+Church+records&columns=*,180,0 The State archives in Suwalki has Roman Catholic records from 1808 through 1900, and Jewish records from 1826 through 1899. http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.eng.php?miejscowosc=Bakalarzewo&gmina=&wojewodztwo_id=&wyznanie_id=&rodzaj+aktu_id=&search=search Tina Ellis

    09/11/2004 01:04:53
    1. Re: Malinowka, Bialystok, Poland
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RdC.2ACI/28.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the reply. Anthony Milanowski used Omiliam and O. Milian along with Milanowski in Grand Rapids, MI. His wife, Frances Kolenda, had brothers from Suwalki and Ritki, Poland. Have never found any info from Poland. Suppose most records are long gone. Just FYI...there are several Malinowskis in Grand Rapids, also. From the Milanowski family....not related. But I feel they are. Thanks again for the reply.

    09/11/2004 12:37:06
    1. Re: Malinowka, Bialystok, Poland
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RdC.2ACI/28.1 Message Board Post: Hi, Malinovka is not far from Bakalarzewo, Suwalki in the northeast of Poland. I have Omilians from that area. it is rather likely that Malinovka and Malinovski are related.

    09/11/2004 09:35:57
    1. Re: SWIACKI (SWATSKI); BERLINSKY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SWIACKI, SWATSKI, BERLINSKY, SLOVIKOWSKI Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RdC.2ACI/503.2.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Tina, I am sorry. I misunderstood your email to me giving the surnames as being from the parish, not the village. I will order the films today. Roger

    09/09/2004 02:15:46
    1. Re: SWIACKI (SWATSKI); BERLINSKY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RdC.2ACI/503.2.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: I do not understand why it eliminates the Jeleniewo parish? Have you searched those rolls of microfilm? Tina

    09/08/2004 01:52:04
    1. Re: SWIACKI (SWATSKI); BERLINSKY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SWIACKI, SWATSKI, BERLINSKY, SLOVIKOWSKI Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RdC.2ACI/503.2.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Tina, thank you for your help and all the info on the surnames in the 2 villages by the name of Leszczewo. I will have to do a "circle approach" in my next villages to order film for. I only wonder why my wife's garndmother gave me that name 10 years ago before she died? This will. at least, eliminate me ordering films for the parish in Jeleniewo. Thanks again. Roger

    09/08/2004 01:44:22
    1. Re: SWIACKI (SWATSKI); BERLINSKY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SWIACKI, SWATSKI, BERLINSKY, SLOVIKOWSKI Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RdC.2ACI/503.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The Swiackis practiced the Roman Catholic religion in Mt. Carmel, Pennsylvania.

    09/08/2004 01:37:10
    1. Re: SWIACKI (SWATSKI); BERLINSKY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RdC.2ACI/503.2.1.2 Message Board Post: There are no people in these two villages with these names. I'll give you the villagers' surnames in the event you come up with other names in your research. Leszczewo near Wolownia is in the Jeleniewo parish. The other one in the Wigerski Park is in Suwalki. These are the listings in the 2002 Suwalski powiat (county) for Leszczewo in the Jeleniewo parish. Alphabetical letters with diacritical marks will be followed by a ~ for identification. The star * stands for an accent mark over a Z. BRONIKOWSKA BRONIKOWSKI BURZYN~SKI BUTKIEWICZ CHALECKI CHOMICZ CZARNIECKI GAL~AZ~YN JANKOWSKI JONIO KIMSZAL LES~NIEWSKA MIKULSKI RYDZEWSKI SZESZKO WIERZBICKI ZIEMIACKI These are for the Leszczewo in the Suwalki parish: ALBOSZTA BERMONT DMUCHOWSKI GRODZICKI HANC MAJEWSKI MIL~KOWSKI NIESZCZERZEWSKA NIESZCZERZEWSKI NOWOSADKO PIKTEL POZ*NIAK RADZIWIL~OWICZ TARLECKI TOPOLSKA WIKTOROWICZ WOJTKIEWICZ Tina Ellis

    09/07/2004 01:27:22
    1. Re: SWIACKI (SWATSKI); BERLINSKY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RdC.2ACI/503.2.1.1 Message Board Post: You can locate LESZCZEWO using these two sites: http://www2.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm and http://www.pilot.pl The guberniya (Russian word) was Suwalskie. Wojewodzstwo is the Polish word for province. Note there are two places with the same name in close proximity. When I get home tonight, I will see if I can locate the proper parish for you. If it's the one near Wolownia, the parish would be Jeleniewo. I have family in that village. The other on may be Wigry or Suwalki. Do you know what religion your family practiced in Poland? Tina Ellis

    09/07/2004 07:55:01
    1. Re: SWIACKI (SWATSKI); BERLINSKY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SWIACKI (SWATSKI); BERLINSKY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RdC.2ACI/503.2.1 Message Board Post: Virginia, thanks for the info. None of those sound familar to me, but I ahve just started searching for this surname in this region. There was a village I heard from my wife's grandmother called Leszczewo Sulwaki. She also kept mentioning Sulwaki Gulburnie. As I said, the NE porion of Poland is new to my research. There does not seem to be many microfilms available for this area, especially Leszczewo. Any other leads would be greatly appreciated. Roger

    09/07/2004 07:00:18
    1. Re: SWIACKI (SWATSKI); BERLINSKY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RdC.2ACI/503.2 Message Board Post: Roger, More on the name SWIACKI: In 1990, there was a surnvey of surnames done in Poland There were 25 people with the name spelling of Swiacki. 12 of them were in the province of Suwalskie. There is another spelling of the name in Poland. The S has an accent mark over it. With this name spelling, there were 495 people. On January 1, 1999 Polish took their 49 provinces they had, which were established by Russia, and cut them down to 16 provinces. At the request of geneological researchers, Rymut did the survey by county in 2002. This was requested because it would benefit researchers in pinpointing a county in which to search for ancestors' records and possibly living family. In 2002 there were 6 females names Swiacka and 3 males names Swiacki. One male was in the city of Suwalki. For the spelling with the accent mark over the S, there were 305 named S~wiacka and 282 named S~wiacki S~wiacka 305, 4, BsAu: F. 11, BsHa: F. 1, BsSe: F. 40, BsSu: F. 11, BsmBs: F. 6, BsmSu: F. 79, S~wiacki 282, BsAu: M. 12, BsSe: M. 52, BsSu: M. 6, BsmBs: M. 2, BsmSu: M. 61 These are the counties where they were found. All places are now in the province of Podlaskie. BsAu = Augustowski Bs Ha = Hajnowski BsSe = Sejnenski BsSu = Suwalski BsmBs = City of Bialystok, Bialostocki BsmSu = City of Suwalki, Suwalski Berlinsky is not a Polish name. Berlinski is and Berlin~ski, with an accent mark over the n are Polish. There were 10 without the accent mark in Poland in 1990 and those with the mark was 2,343. 18 of the latter were in the province of Suwalskie. In 2002, there were 12 Berlinska --- one female in the county of Bialostocki. There were 10 Berlinski, not in the province of Podlaskie For Berlin~ska there were 1,197, of which these were in the province of Podlaskie: Berlin~ska 1197, BsBs: F. 2, BsKo: F. 2, BsL~o: F. 3, BsSi: F. 1, BsZa: F. 4, BsmBs: F. 4, BsmL~o: F. 10 For Berlin~ski, there were these: Berlin~ski 1206, BsBs: M. 1, BsKo: M. 2, BsL~o: M. 4, BsZa: M. 3, BsmBs: M. 2, BsmL~o: M. 6 BsBs = Bialostocki BsKo = Kolnen~ski BsL~o = L~omz~ynski BsSi = Siemiatycki BsZa = Zambrowski BsmBs = City of Bialystok BsmL~o = City of Lomz~a L~ means there is a slash through the L. Z~ means a dot over the Z. Do any of these places sound familiar to you? Tina Ellis

    09/06/2004 06:48:39
    1. Re: SWIACKI (SWATSKI); BERLINSKY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RdC.2ACI/503.1 Message Board Post: Roger, Have you tried the Ellis Island or the Port of Hamburg websites? Most people passed through Ellis Island, and many left Poland using the Port of Hamburg. Many of the Polish people, who settled in Dickson City were from NE Poland ... province of Suwalskie. They were recruited to work in the coal mines. At Ancestry.com there is a copy of a draft card for John Swiacki. He named his brother Anthony as his next of kin on it. He stated he was born June 24, 1886. He was a coal miner and was a naturalized citizen. In Polish a c, without a diacritical mark, is pronounced like ts in the word cats. That's why you will find records under Swiatski. In German, you can expect to see the name as Schwatski or Schwatsky. There was a John Swiatski, born 20 Nov 1918, died Feb 1982, in Plymouth, PA in the SSDI. Found one SWIATSKI in the 1920 census in Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne Co., PA: Name: Alelis Swiatski Age: 61 years Estimated birth year: 1858 Birthplace: Poland Race: White Home in 1920: Plymouth, Luzerne, Pennsylvania I looked at the census. Her name is listed at Alelia. It looks like she came to the US in 1900 or 1908, but her daughter Anna came in 1905. Anna is married to Charles Bezdziecki, or something like that. they both show that they came to the US in 1905 and are naturalized citizens. There is a draft card for John Peter Schwatski, also. John Peter Schwatski 15 Aug 1873 White Not Stated, Luzerne, PA He was born in Russia/Poland, and names Julia Schwatski as his next of kin. From the lack of records on the Internet, I think your best bet to find a place of birth for your family members will be the naturalization papers for them. The document you want is the Declaration of Intention. That will tell you where they were born. You will find these in the Federal District court for either Dickson City of Mt. Carmel. This is a site to locate the courts in PA: http://www.maxexchange.com/pa/pennsylvania_court_directory.htm Maybe this will help you get started. Once you know where they came from in Poland, you will be able to locate the correct parish for them. Tina Ellis

    09/06/2004 05:45:38