Hello Marie, Thank you for responding to my message. I think it would be #11the Grabina in Warsaw. I know that my father who was born in Warsaw, Poland always spoke that his mothers family was from Warsaw. It can be very confusing! Any ideas on how I could write the records office? Thanks again for your interest. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <rwlistsboards@comcast.net> To: <pol-mazowieckie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [Pol-Maz] GRABINA POLAND > Kathy & Bob Hillebrand wrote: > >> Does anyone know how I could get a photocopy of my grandmother's > > birth record from Grabino without taking our a major loan? > > Kathy, > > Which Grabina is the one where your grandmother was born? According > to www.mapa.szukacz.pl, there are currently 9 towns named Grabina > and 2 in with Grabina as part of the name in woj. mazowieckie: > > 1 - pow. pl~ocki, gmina L~a~ck > > 2 - pow. radomski, gmina Kowala > > 3 - pow. min~ski, gmina Halino~w > > 4 - pow. min~ski, gmina Min~sk Mazowiecki > > 5 - pow. garwolin~ski, gmina L~askarzew > > 6 - pow. kozienicki, gmina Grabo~w nad Pilica~ > > 7 - pow. gro~jecki, gmina Chyno~w > > 8 - pow. radomski, gmina Skaryszew > > 9 - Michal~o~w-Grabina, pow. legionowski, gmina Niepore~t > > 10 - Grabina Radziwil~owska, pow. z~yrardowski, gmina Puszcza Marian~ska > > 11 - Grabina (osiedle/dzielnica), pow. Warszawa, gmina Warszawa > > There are 22 towns with Grabina as all or part of its name currently > in Poland. According to the Sl~ownik Geograficzny Kro~lestwa > Polskiego (a Polish geographical dictionary published in 1881), > there were 34 towns with Grabina as all or part of its name at that > time. In order to write to Poland for records, you'll need to know > which Grabina is the correct one. > > Question: have you checked the LDS online catalog to see if records > from Leoncin and "your" Grabina have been microfilmed? Accessing > the microfilms at your local Family History Center (if the records > have been microfilmed) is temendously less expensive than writing to > a state or diocesan archive - or even a local Civil Records Office - > for records. There are several good online aids to help you > translate the records. > > Marie > > > ********************************* > Researching within the boundaries of the Mazowsze province? Visit the > Mazowsze Province site at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~polmazow/index.html - part of PolandGenWeb. > ---------------------------------- > Messages posted to the MAZOWIECKIE message board at Ancestry/RootsWeb will > also appear on this mailing list. If replying to these messages, be sure > to post your reply on the message board. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POL-MAZOWIECKIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Kathy & Bob Hillebrand wrote: > Thank you for responding to my message. I think it would be #11the Grabina > in Warsaw. I know that my father who was born in Warsaw, Poland always > spoke that his mothers family was from Warsaw. It can be very confusing! > Any ideas on how I could write the records office? Thanks again for your > interest. Kathy, Are you sure he meant the city and not the Warszawa province or powiat (county)? Sort of like someone who lives in a suburb of Chicago saying they're from Chicago or Illinois because the person they're speaking to probably never has heard of the town they're from. I'd recommend you find some factual based info before you end up chasing the wrong leads. :-) I've been there, and it's incredibly frustrating to discover you've wasted time following the wrong trail. Memories and family lore can be outright inaccurate, slightly altered, or anywhere in between. My grandmother always told me she was born in Warsaw. I can't find a thing to support this. Her parents weren't born there (they were born 60 km NE of Warsaw) and I've found no evidence that they ever lived there. I haven't ruled it out completely, but with hundreds of churches in Warsaw I wouldn't even know where to start looking for a baptismal record. She also claimed when she came to America her ship docked in New Castle, not Philadelphia. New Castle, Pennsylvania is landlocked, so that wasn't possible. New Castle, Delaware wasn't a port of arrival for passenger vessels. Her ship did indeed come into the port of Philadelphia. She crossed the ocean on the SS Cassel. That's where she got New Castle from. <g> Marie

Hi Marie, The thing is is that I have no way of knowing for sure which Grabina it truely is. My father is deceased and was born at Camp Grupa in Warsaw. So I assume it was Grabina in Warsaw. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <rwlistsboards@comcast.net> To: <pol-mazowieckie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [Pol-Maz] GRABINA POLAND > Kathy & Bob Hillebrand wrote: > >> Thank you for responding to my message. I think it would be #11the >> Grabina >> in Warsaw. I know that my father who was born in Warsaw, Poland always >> spoke that his mothers family was from Warsaw. It can be very confusing! >> Any ideas on how I could write the records office? Thanks again for your >> interest. > > Kathy, > > Are you sure he meant the city and not the Warszawa province or > powiat (county)? Sort of like someone who lives in a suburb of > Chicago saying they're from Chicago or Illinois because the person > they're speaking to probably never has heard of the town they're > from. I'd recommend you find some factual based info before you end > up chasing the wrong leads. :-) I've been there, and it's > incredibly frustrating to discover you've wasted time following the > wrong trail. > > Memories and family lore can be outright inaccurate, slightly > altered, or anywhere in between. My grandmother always told me she > was born in Warsaw. I can't find a thing to support this. Her > parents weren't born there (they were born 60 km NE of Warsaw) and > I've found no evidence that they ever lived there. I haven't ruled > it out completely, but with hundreds of churches in Warsaw I > wouldn't even know where to start looking for a baptismal record. > > She also claimed when she came to America her ship docked in New > Castle, not Philadelphia. New Castle, Pennsylvania is landlocked, > so that wasn't possible. New Castle, Delaware wasn't a port of > arrival for passenger vessels. Her ship did indeed come into the > port of Philadelphia. She crossed the ocean on the SS Cassel. > That's where she got New Castle from. <g> > > Marie > > > ********************************* > Researching within the boundaries of the Mazowsze province? Visit the > Mazowsze Province site at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~polmazow/index.html - part of PolandGenWeb. > ---------------------------------- > Messages posted to the MAZOWIECKIE message board at Ancestry/RootsWeb will > also appear on this mailing list. If replying to these messages, be sure > to post your reply on the message board. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > POL-MAZOWIECKIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >