I think that idea (that he was not begotten in the flesh by Joseph) came along a bit later than those gospels, but I'm sure you won't agree. In Luke someone wrote in "(as was supposed)," probably later. I imagine those genealogies were an embarrassment for the later theologians. On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 12:27, Wrenn, Bubba wrote: > Why the writer chose to use Joseph's genealogy is a curiousity since he was technically the son of God. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wrenn, Bubba > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:21 PM > To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [PDP] Re:Hogwash??? > > > Actually both. Joseph's genealogy is that featured in Matthew and Mary's in Luke. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gordon Banks [mailto:geb@gordonbanks.com] > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:14 PM > To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PDP] Re:Hogwash??? > > > Matthew: > > 1: The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the > son of Abraham. > 2: Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and > his brethren; > 3: And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; > and Esrom begat Aram; > 4: And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson > begat Salmon; > 5: And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and > Obed begat Jesse; > 6: And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of > her that had been the wife of Urias; > 7: And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; > 8: And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat > Ozias; > 9: And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat > Ezekias; > 10: And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat > Josias; > 11: And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they > were carried away to Babylon: > 12: And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; > and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; > 13: And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim > begat Azor; > 14: And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; > 15: And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan > begat Jacob; > 16: And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, > who is called Christ. > > Luke: > > 23: And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as > was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, > 24: Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was > the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of > Joseph, > 25: Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which > was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of > Nagge, > 26: Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which > was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of > Juda, > 27: Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was > the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son > of Neri, > 28: Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was > the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er, > 29: Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was > the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of > Levi, > 30: Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was > the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of > Eliakim, > 31: Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was > the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of > David, > 32: Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the > son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson, > 33: Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was > the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of > Juda, > 34: Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was > the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of > Nachor, > 35: Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was > the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of > Sala, > 36: Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which > was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of > Lamech, > 37: Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which > was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son > of Cainan, > 38: Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the > son of Adam, which was the son of God. > > So which genealogy is correct? > > Q.E.D. > > On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 08:25, VIRFM@aol.com wrote: > > " Unfortunately, it's all a lot of hogwash. > > > > What is hogwash? 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