Bob, Here is the information: Elizabeth de VERNON's parents were Sir Henry VERNON b. 1445 and d. 13 April 1515. Her mother was Anne TALBOT d. 17 May 1494. Sir Henry VERNON's parents were William de VERNON b. abt 1421 and d. 31 July 1467. His mother was Margaret SWINFIN (I have no info on her birth or death). Anne TALBOT's parents were John TALBOT III, Earl of Strewbury b. 12 December 1413 and d. 10 July 1460. Her mother was Elizabeth BUTLER b. 1420 and d. 8 September 1473. (I have no info on John TALBOT's parents) Elizabeth BUTLER's parents were James "the White Earl" BUTLER IV, Earl of Ormond b. 1390/1392 d. 23 August 1452. Her mother was Joan (Elizabeth) de BEAUCHAMP b. abt 1400 and d. 4 August 1430. (I do not have any info on James BUTLER's parents) Joan (Elizabeth) de BEAUCHAMP's parents were William de BEAUCHAMP Baron Abergavenny b. Aft 1344 and d. 8 May 1411. Her mother was Joan FITZALAN b. 1375 and d. 14 November 1435. (I have no info on William de BEAUCHAMP's parents) Joan FITZALAN's parents were Richard FITZALAN III, Earl of Arundell b. 1346 and died 21 September 1397. Her mother was Elizabeth de BOHUN B. 1635/1359 and d. 3 April 1385. (I have no info on Elizabeth de BOHUN's parents) Richard FITZALAN III's parents were Richard FITZALAN d. 24 Jan 1376. His mother was Eleanor de LANCASTER (Plantagenet) b. 1311 and d. 11 January 1372. (I have no info on Richard FITZALAN's parents) Eleanor de LANCASTER's parents were Henry PLANTAGENET, Earl of Lancaster b. 1281 and d. 22 September 1345. Her mother was Maud de CHAWORTH b. 1282 and d. 19 Feb 1316/1317. Maud de CHAWORTH's parents were Sir Patric de CHAWORTH II, Lord Kidwillyin b. 1250 and d. 7 Jul 1283. Her mother was Isabella de BEAUCHAMP b. Abt 1266 and d. Bef 30 May 1306. Henry PLANTAGENET's parents were Edmund Crouchback Earl Leicester PLANTAGENET b. 16 Jan 1244/1245 and d. 5 Jun 1296. His mother was Blanche CAPET DE ARTOIS b. abt 1248 and d. 2 May 1302. Edmund Crouchback PLANTAGENET's parents were Henry III PLANTAGENET, King of England b. 1 Oct 1207 and d. 16 Nov 1272. His mother was Eleanor de Provence BERENGER b. 1222 and d. 24 Jun 1291. I don't think I need to go any further. I hope this helps. Amanda Boise, Idaho