OK - aren't shamrocks and clover the same thing? And you're right about the shamrock's symbolism of the Trinity. At any rate, there goes my twinkle-toes theory. (grin) Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Paulette [mailto:psmarta@kuentos.guam.net] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:54 AM To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PDP] Elizabeth de VERNON and Margaret Swynfen At the feet of William seems to be shamrocks, always the sign of the holy trinity. Just my hunch, but you might check it out. Paulette Marta ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237