My best lineages come through the Ogle family (my maternal great-grandmother's family. Here are three Ogle lines to me, one from Edward I to me, and the other two from Edward III: 1 Edward I Longshanks 2 Thomas de Brotherton 3 Margaret de Brotherton m. John de SEGRAVE 4 Elizabeth DE SEGRAVE m. John de Mowbray 5 Joan Jane DE MOWBRAY m Thomas de Grey 6 Thomas DE GREY Of Heaton 7 Maud DE GREY m. Robert Ogle 8 William OGLE 9 Henry Ogle 10 Luke Ogle 11 Luke Ogle 12 Luke Ogle 13 Luke Ogle 14 Capt. Henry Ogle 15 Capt. John Ogle 16 John Ogle 17 Thomas Ogle 18 John Ogle 19 Thomas Ogle 20 James Ogle 21 Anderson John Ogle 22 Elizabeth Ellen Ogle m. Joshua MARTIN 23 Irma Pauline Martin m. Clifford CLARK 24 Norma Ruth Clark m Fredric Becker 25 Christopher Becker (yours truly.) 1 Edward III 2 John of Gaunt m. Catherine Swynford 3 Joan Beaufort m.Robert de Ferrers 4 Mary de Ferrers m. Ralph Neville 5 John Neville 6 Joan Neville m William Gascoigne I 7 William Gascoigne II 8 Margaret Gascoigne m. Ralph Ogle 9 Dorothy Ogle m. Thomas Forster 10 Eleanor Forster m. George Craster 11 Edmund Craster 12 Isabel Craster m. Henry Ogle 13 Capt. Henry Ogle 14 Capt. John Ogle 15 John Ogle 16 Thomas Ogle 17 John Ogle 18 Thomas Ogle 19 James Ogle 20 Anderson John Ogle 21 Elizabeth Ellen Ogle m. Joshua James MARTIN 22 Irma P Martin m. Clifford W CLARK 22 Norma Ruth Clark m. Fredric L BECKER 23 Christopher Becker (yours truly.) 1 Edward III 2 Lionel of Antwerp 3 Phillippa of England m. Edmund Mortimer 4 Elizabeth Mortimer m. Henry 'Hotspur' Percy 5 Henry Percy 6 Henry Percy 7 Margaret Percy m. William Gascoigne 8 Margaret Gascoigne m. Ralph Ogle 9 Dorothy Ogle m. Thomas Forster 10 Eleanor Forster m. George Craster 11 Edmund Craster 12 Isabel Craster m. Henry Ogle 13 Capt. Henry Ogle 14 Capt. John Ogle 15 John Ogle 16 Thomas Ogle 17 John Ogle 18 Thomas Ogle 19 James Ogle 20 Anderson John Ogle 21 Elizabeth Ellen Ogle m. Joshua James MARTIN 22 Irma Pauline Martin m. Clifford Weaver CLARK 23 Norma Ruth Clark m. Fredric Laurence BECKER 24 Christopher Becker I have another two lines whose "gateway ancestors" are, respectively, Peter Worden of Yarmouth, Mass (descent from William the Lion of Scotland and, possibly, Edward I) who is also an ancestor of Rutherford B. Hayes, and a separate line from from William Goddard (a descendant of Edward III, and an ancestor of Calvin Coolidge,) but I'll post these two lines later. Your Cousin, Chris Becker --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today

I have several gateway ancestors, because my mother's line comes from Robert "King" CARTER, whose mother, Sarah LUDLOWE, was a Plantagenet descendant, plus the James River HARRISONS (the presidential ones) who I think connect to the Plantagenets through Sancha de Ayala, and the RANDOLPHS, Thomas Jefferson's mother's line. The following came from Gary Boyd Roberts' Ancestors of American Presidents, c. 1989, through Isham Randolph. Here's the Randolph line: John of Gaunt m. (3) Catherine De ROET, widow of Sir Hugh Swynford Joan BEAUFORT m. (2) Ralph NEVILLE, 1st Earl of Westmoreland Edward NEVILLE m. Catherine HOWARD Catherine NEVILLE m. Robert TANFIELD William TANFIELD m. Isabel STAVELY Francis TANFIELD m. Bridget CAVE Anne TANFIELD m. Clement VINCENT Elizabeth VINCENT m. Richard LANE Dorothy LANE m. William RANDOLPH Richard RANDOLPH m. Elizabeth RYLAND William RANDOLPH of Virginia m. Mary ISHAM They were called "the Adam and Eve of Virginia") Isham RANDOLPH m. Jane ROGERS Susannah RANDOLPH m. Carter Henry HARRISON (Her sister was Jane Randolph Jefferson, his brother was Benjamin Harrison V, Signer of the Declaration of Independence) Peyton Randolph HARRISON m. Elizabeth Mease Barclay (Her father was the first U.S. consul to France and the Barbary States) Robert Peyton HARRISON m. Almira Clementina WILCOX Mary Elizabeth HARRISON m. Jeffrey Barksdale HILL (a patriot in the Texas War of Independence from Mexico) Martha Ann Elizabeth ("Bettie") HILL m. William Henry HILL (different Hill family) Maggie Lee HILL m. James Arthur OWENS Lloyd Virgil OWENS m. Elsia Mae MOTLEY Dorothy Jean OWENS m. Stanford ROBERTS Christine Ann ROBERTS (me) m. Wlodzimierz Stanislaw CZARNECKI Our children are 16th generation Americans on my side and first generation on their dad's. My husband is a new immigrant. According to this book, William Randolph of VA was descended from Edward III; Henry Isham, father William Randolph's wife, Mary Isham, was descended from Henry II and the Harrisons, through Anne Carter, "King" Carter's daughter, were descended from Edward I. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jay Becker" <chrisjaybecker@yahoo.com> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:22 PM Subject: [PDP] More Gateway Ancestors > My best lineages come through the Ogle family (my maternal great-grandmother's family. Here are three Ogle lines to me, one from Edward I to me, and the other two from Edward III: > > 1 Edward I Longshanks > 2 Thomas de Brotherton > 3 Margaret de Brotherton m. John de SEGRAVE > 4 Elizabeth DE SEGRAVE m. John de Mowbray > 5 Joan Jane DE MOWBRAY m Thomas de Grey > 6 Thomas DE GREY Of Heaton > 7 Maud DE GREY m. Robert Ogle > 8 William OGLE > 9 Henry Ogle > 10 Luke Ogle > 11 Luke Ogle > 12 Luke Ogle > 13 Luke Ogle > 14 Capt. Henry Ogle > 15 Capt. John Ogle > 16 John Ogle > 17 Thomas Ogle > 18 John Ogle > 19 Thomas Ogle > 20 James Ogle > 21 Anderson John Ogle > 22 Elizabeth Ellen Ogle m. Joshua MARTIN > 23 Irma Pauline Martin m. Clifford CLARK > 24 Norma Ruth Clark m Fredric Becker > 25 Christopher Becker (yours truly.) > > 1 Edward III > 2 John of Gaunt m. Catherine Swynford > 3 Joan Beaufort m.Robert de Ferrers > 4 Mary de Ferrers m. Ralph Neville > 5 John Neville > 6 Joan Neville m William Gascoigne I > 7 William Gascoigne II > 8 Margaret Gascoigne m. Ralph Ogle > 9 Dorothy Ogle m. Thomas Forster > 10 Eleanor Forster m. George Craster > 11 Edmund Craster > 12 Isabel Craster m. Henry Ogle > 13 Capt. Henry Ogle > 14 Capt. John Ogle > 15 John Ogle > 16 Thomas Ogle > 17 John Ogle > 18 Thomas Ogle > 19 James Ogle > 20 Anderson John Ogle > 21 Elizabeth Ellen Ogle m. Joshua James MARTIN > 22 Irma P Martin m. Clifford W CLARK > 22 Norma Ruth Clark m. Fredric L BECKER > 23 Christopher Becker (yours truly.) > > > 1 Edward III > 2 Lionel of Antwerp > 3 Phillippa of England m. Edmund Mortimer > 4 Elizabeth Mortimer m. Henry 'Hotspur' Percy > 5 Henry Percy > 6 Henry Percy > 7 Margaret Percy m. William Gascoigne > 8 Margaret Gascoigne m. Ralph Ogle > 9 Dorothy Ogle m. Thomas Forster > 10 Eleanor Forster m. George Craster > 11 Edmund Craster > 12 Isabel Craster m. Henry Ogle > 13 Capt. Henry Ogle > 14 Capt. John Ogle > 15 John Ogle > 16 Thomas Ogle > 17 John Ogle > 18 Thomas Ogle > 19 James Ogle > 20 Anderson John Ogle > 21 Elizabeth Ellen Ogle m. Joshua James MARTIN > 22 Irma Pauline Martin m. Clifford Weaver CLARK > 23 Norma Ruth Clark m. Fredric Laurence BECKER > 24 Christopher Becker > > I have another two lines whose "gateway ancestors" are, respectively, > Peter Worden of Yarmouth, Mass (descent from William the Lion of Scotland and, possibly, Edward I) who is also an ancestor of Rutherford B. Hayes, and a separate line from from William Goddard (a descendant of Edward III, and an ancestor of Calvin Coolidge,) but I'll post these two lines later. > > Your Cousin, > Chris Becker > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

-----Original Message----- From: Chris Jay Becker [mailto:chrisjaybecker@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:22 PM To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PDP] More Gateway Ancestors My best lineages come through the Ogle family (my maternal great-grandmother's family. Here are three Ogle lines to me, one from Edward I to me, and the other two from Edward III: 1 Edward I Longshanks 2 Thomas de Brotherton 3 Margaret de Brotherton m. John de SEGRAVE 4 Elizabeth DE SEGRAVE m. John de Mowbray 5 Joan Jane DE MOWBRAY m Thomas de Grey 6 Thomas DE GREY Of Heaton 7 Maud DE GREY m. Robert Ogle 8 William OGLE 9 Henry Ogle 10 Luke Ogle 11 Luke Ogle 12 Luke Ogle 13 Luke Ogle 14 Capt. Henry Ogle 15 Capt. John Ogle 16 John Ogle 17 Thomas Ogle 18 John Ogle 19 Thomas Ogle 20 James Ogle 21 Anderson John Ogle 22 Elizabeth Ellen Ogle m. Joshua MARTIN 23 Irma Pauline Martin m. Clifford CLARK 24 Norma Ruth Clark m Fredric Becker 25 Christopher Becker (yours truly.) 1 Edward III 2 John of Gaunt m. Catherine Swynford 3 Joan Beaufort m.Robert de Ferrers 4 Mary de Ferrers m. Ralph Neville 5 John Neville 6 Joan Neville m William Gascoigne I 7 William Gascoigne II 8 Margaret Gascoigne m. Ralph Ogle 9 Dorothy Ogle m. Thomas Forster 10 Eleanor Forster m. George Craster 11 Edmund Craster 12 Isabel Craster m. Henry Ogle 13 Capt. Henry Ogle 14 Capt. John Ogle 15 John Ogle 16 Thomas Ogle 17 John Ogle 18 Thomas Ogle 19 James Ogle 20 Anderson John Ogle 21 Elizabeth Ellen Ogle m. Joshua James MARTIN 22 Irma P Martin m. Clifford W CLARK 22 Norma Ruth Clark m. Fredric L BECKER 23 Christopher Becker (yours truly.) 1 Edward III 2 Lionel of Antwerp 3 Phillippa of England m. Edmund Mortimer 4 Elizabeth Mortimer m. Henry 'Hotspur' Percy 5 Henry Percy 6 Henry Percy 7 Margaret Percy m. William Gascoigne 8 Margaret Gascoigne m. Ralph Ogle 9 Dorothy Ogle m. Thomas Forster 10 Eleanor Forster m. George Craster 11 Edmund Craster 12 Isabel Craster m. Henry Ogle 13 Capt. Henry Ogle 14 Capt. John Ogle 15 John Ogle 16 Thomas Ogle 17 John Ogle 18 Thomas Ogle 19 James Ogle 20 Anderson John Ogle 21 Elizabeth Ellen Ogle m. Joshua James MARTIN 22 Irma Pauline Martin m. Clifford Weaver CLARK 23 Norma Ruth Clark m. Fredric Laurence BECKER 24 Christopher Becker I have another two lines whose "gateway ancestors" are, respectively, Peter Worden of Yarmouth, Mass (descent from William the Lion of Scotland and, possibly, Edward I) who is also an ancestor of Rutherford B. Hayes, and a separate line from from William Goddard (a descendant of Edward III, and an ancestor of Calvin Coolidge,) but I'll post these two lines later. Your Cousin, Chris Becker --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237