I thougth the idea to examine our Plantagenet ancestors was an excellent one. But we're getting into territory here that strays pretty far off the subject. Nobody has offered any line i've seen that connects to any bible characters. So how we got here I don't know. And we're real close to this becoming a religious discussion on a genealogy list. Anybody else think we should get back on the subject? Marc Support Care2 Email: Stop "scientific" whaling, the whale-killing loophole http://www.care2.com/go/z/12803