Eve, As the utterer of the "hogwash" comment, let me just say that I did not mean the Bible. Not at all. In fact, as an ordained pentecostal minister I DO believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God. I believe that the genealogies in the Bible are true. What I MEANT was that some of the "Gateway" ancestors used to get us, say, from the Merovingians to the House of David, or from the ancient Kings of Ireland and Scotland to King David, are a bit "iffy." They're always based on statements like, "Dardanus MAY BE the same as Darda of the Bible," or my favorite, which always appears alongside the former, "Judah MAY BE the same person as the greek god Zeus." The forebear of the Merovingians, I believe it was Clodius I, is said to be a descendant of David, but his mother conceived him not only by her Frankish husband, but also by a mysterious Sea-Creature (who was, apparently, of the line of David.) See what I mean? I'm not making ANY of this stuff up, it's all readily available ! on the good old internet. As Yogi Berra said, "You could look it up." Chris --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs