I also am descended from John Howse, through his daughter Hannah who married John Lothropp. However, I was not aware that a proven line for John Howse to the Plantagenets exists. It is not listed in any of my references such as Weis, Gary Boyd Roberts, etc. Could you please provide some documentation on the linkages between John House and Anne Talbot? Thanks. On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 20:51, Amanda McCormick wrote: > I might as well list my Plantagenet descent. It is as follows: > > Geoffrey PLANTAGENET 28th great-grandfather > Henry II 27th great-grandfather > John LACKLAND 26th great-grandfather > Henry III, King of England 25th great-grandfather > Edmund Crouchback PLANTAGENET 24th great-granfather > Henry PLANTAGENET, 3rd Earl of Leicester 23rd great-grandfather > Eleanor de LANCASTER 22nd great-grandmother > Richard FITZALAN 21st great-grandfather > Joan FITZALAN 20th great-grandmother > Joan de BEAUCHAMP 19th great-grandmother > Elizabeth BUTLER 18th great-grandmother > Anne TALBOT 17th great-grandmother > Elizabeth VERNON 16th great-grandmother > Margery CORBETT 15th great-grandmother > Thomas HOWSE 14th great-grandfather > John HOWSE 13th great-grandfather > Jemimah HOWSE 12th great-grandmother > Abigail LINNELL 11th great-grandmother > Johnathan LOMBARD 10th great-grandfather > Alice LOMBARD 9th great-grandmother > Jacob NEWCOMB 8th great-grandfather > Bethel NEWCOMB 7th great-grandfather > Jacob NEWCOMB 6th great-grandfather > Levi NEWCOMB 5th great-grandfather > William E. NEWCOMB 4th great-grandfather > Charles LeRoy NEWCOMB 3rd great-grandfather > Carrie NEWCOMB great-great-grandmother > Arthur James MCINTOSH great-grandfather > Darlene Mae MCINTOSH grandmother > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JF<mailto:gen9@cox.net> > To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 6:17 PM > Subject: Re: [PDP] RE: My most direct Plantagenet linneage > > > Amanda > > Amanda McCormick wrote: > > >Henry I was the son of William I and Maud of Flanders. He was called Beauclerc because he was literate. > > > He was literate because, as fourth son he had been destined for the > church. Beauclerc meant good scholar. Henry's next older brother Robert > had already died in 1081 and his eldest brother, Robert III, by > agreement with William II 'Rufus' was to succeed him as King of England > on his death. Unfortunately for Robert he was away on Crusade when > William died. Henry saw his chance and claimed the throne before his > brother Robert could get back and claim it himself. Besides being > literate in Latin and French, Henry was the first Norman ruler of > England to be fluent in English. > > Jim > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237<http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237> > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I have no written documentaion. All of my information comes from my family member's that are still living. Most of it has come from my grandmother who has now passed. I will try to find something for you. Amanda ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Banks<mailto:geb@gordonbanks.com> To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [PDP] RE: My most direct Plantagenet linneage I also am descended from John Howse, through his daughter Hannah who married John Lothropp. However, I was not aware that a proven line for John Howse to the Plantagenets exists. It is not listed in any of my references such as Weis, Gary Boyd Roberts, etc. Could you please provide some documentation on the linkages between John House and Anne Talbot? Thanks. On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 20:51, Amanda McCormick wrote: > I might as well list my Plantagenet descent. It is as follows: > > Geoffrey PLANTAGENET 28th great-grandfather > Henry II 27th great-grandfather > John LACKLAND 26th great-grandfather > Henry III, King of England 25th great-grandfather > Edmund Crouchback PLANTAGENET 24th great-granfather > Henry PLANTAGENET, 3rd Earl of Leicester 23rd great-grandfather > Eleanor de LANCASTER 22nd great-grandmother > Richard FITZALAN 21st great-grandfather > Joan FITZALAN 20th great-grandmother > Joan de BEAUCHAMP 19th great-grandmother > Elizabeth BUTLER 18th great-grandmother > Anne TALBOT 17th great-grandmother > Elizabeth VERNON 16th great-grandmother > Margery CORBETT 15th great-grandmother > Thomas HOWSE 14th great-grandfather > John HOWSE 13th great-grandfather > Jemimah HOWSE 12th great-grandmother > Abigail LINNELL 11th great-grandmother > Johnathan LOMBARD 10th great-grandfather > Alice LOMBARD 9th great-grandmother > Jacob NEWCOMB 8th great-grandfather > Bethel NEWCOMB 7th great-grandfather > Jacob NEWCOMB 6th great-grandfather > Levi NEWCOMB 5th great-grandfather > William E. NEWCOMB 4th great-grandfather > Charles LeRoy NEWCOMB 3rd great-grandfather > Carrie NEWCOMB great-great-grandmother > Arthur James MCINTOSH great-grandfather > Darlene Mae MCINTOSH grandmother > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JF<mailto:gen9@cox.net<mailto:gen9@cox.net>> > To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 6:17 PM > Subject: Re: [PDP] RE: My most direct Plantagenet linneage > > > Amanda > > Amanda McCormick wrote: > > >Henry I was the son of William I and Maud of Flanders. He was called Beauclerc because he was literate. > > > He was literate because, as fourth son he had been destined for the > church. Beauclerc meant good scholar. Henry's next older brother Robert > had already died in 1081 and his eldest brother, Robert III, by > agreement with William II 'Rufus' was to succeed him as King of England > on his death. Unfortunately for Robert he was away on Crusade when > William died. Henry saw his chance and claimed the throne before his > brother Robert could get back and claim it himself. Besides being > literate in Latin and French, Henry was the first Norman ruler of > England to be fluent in English. > > Jim > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237<http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237<http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237<http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237>> > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237<http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237> ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237<http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237>