Amanda, Amanda McCormick wrote: >Jim, > >Yes I would like their information if anyone has it. > > The easiest way is to run an ahnentafel report on Elizabeth de Vernon for 5 generations of her ancestors. Hopefully everyone interested can read an ahnentafel (double the person's number for the father, the next number is the mother): 1 Elizabeth Vernon.[1] Elizabeth married Robert Corbet[1]. 2 Sir Henry Vernon , of Haddon.[2],[1] Born in 1455.[1] Henry died on 13 Apr 1515, he was 60.[1] Henry married Anne Talbot[1]. 3 Anne Talbot.[1] Anne died on 17 May 1494.[1] 4 Sir William Vernon , of Hadden.[2],[3],[1] Born ca 1421.[3] William died on 31 Jul 1467, he was 46.[2],[3] William married Margaret Swinfin[2],[3],[1]. 5 Margaret Swinfin.[2],[3],[1] Margaret died in by 1467.[4] 6 Sir John Talbot , 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury.[5],[1],[6] Born in 1413.[5],[7] John died in battle of Northampton, slain with his brother Christopher on 10 Jul 1460, he was 47.[5],[1],[8] In Mar 1444 when John was 31, he married Elizabeth Butler[5],[1],[7].[1] 7 Elizabeth Butler.[5],[1],[7] Born in 1420.[5],[1] Elizabeth died on 8 Sep 1473, she was 53.[5],[1] 8 Sir Richard Vernon.[2] 10 William Swinfin , of Lichfield.[2],[1] William married Jocosa Durvassal[2]. 11 Jocosa Durvassal.[2] 12 John Talbot , Earl of Shrewsbury.[9],[10] John died on 17 Jul 1453.[11] John married Maud Neville , Baroness Furnivalle[12]. 13 Maud Neville , Baroness Furnivalle.[12] 14 James Butler , 4th Earl of Ormond.[5],[13],[14],[8] Born ca 1392.[15] James died on 23 Aug 1452, he was 60.[16] on or bef 28 Aug 1413 when James was 21, he married Joan Beauchamp[5],[13],[17].[17] 15 Joan Beauchamp.[5],[13],[17] Joan died on 3 or 5 Aug 1430.[18],[19],[17] 24 Richard Talbot , Lord Talbot.[20] Richard married Ankaret Strange , Baroness Strange[20]. 25 Ankaret Strange , Baroness Strange.[20] 26 Thomas de Neville , Lord Furnivalle.[21],[12] Thomas died on 14 Mar 1407 in d.s.p.m.[22] bef 1 Jul 1379 Thomas married Joan de Furnivalle[21].[21] 27 Joan de Furnivalle.[21] Born ca 1368.[21] Joan died bef 1401, she was 33.[22] 28 James Butler , 3rd Earl of Ormond.[5],[23] Born aft 1361.[5] James died in Sep 1405, he was 44.[5] James married Anne Wells[5],[24]. 29 Anne Wells.[5],[24] Anne died aft 1396.[15] 30 William Beauchamp , 1st Lord Abergavenny.[18],[13],[25],[17] Born aft 1344.[13] William died on 8 May 1411, he was 67.[13] William married Joan FitzAlan[26],[13],[17]. 31 Joan FitzAlan.[26],[13],[17] Born in 1375.[13] Joan died in 1435, she was 60.[13] 1. David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Second Edition, 1999, p. 350. 2. John Burke & Sir Bernard Burke, C.B., Burke's Peerage, Baronetage, and Knightage, Edited by Peter Townsend, Burke's Peerage Ltd.,London, MCMLXIII (1963), p. 2467. 3. Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, Who Came To America before 1700, Additions and Corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Seventh Edition 1992, 1993, Line 56A. 4. Worcestershire Branch of the Richard III Society, http://www.richardiiiworcs.co.uk/tewkesburythumbnails2002.html, Picture Brass rubbing of Sir William Vernon & Margaret Swynfen, 1467. 5. Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, Who Came To America before 1700, Additions and Corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Seventh Edition 1992, 1993, Line 7. 6. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Geoffrey H. White, F.S.A., F.R. Hist.S., The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume XI Rickerton to Sisonby, 1949, pp. 704-05. 7. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Geoffrey H. White, F.S.A., F.R. Hist.S., The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume XI Rickerton to Sisonby, 1949, p. 704. 8. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Geoffrey H. White, F.S.A., F.R. Hist.S., The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume XI Rickerton to Sisonby, 1949, p. 705. 9. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, H. A. Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume VIII, Lindley to Moate, 1932, p. 382. 10. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Geoffrey H. White, F.S.A., F.R. Hist.S., The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume XI Rickerton to Sisonby, 1949, pp. 698-704. 11. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Geoffrey H. White, F.S.A., F.R. Hist.S., The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume XI Rickerton to Sisonby, 1949, p. 703. 12. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Geoffrey H. White, F.S.A., F.R. Hist.S., The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume XI Rickerton to Sisonby, 1949, p. 702. 13. David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Second Edition, 1999, p. 20. 14. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, H. A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, & Lord Howard de Walden, The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume X Oakham to Richmond, 1945, pp. 123-26. 15. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, H. A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, & Lord Howard de Walden, The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume X Oakham to Richmond, 1945, p. 123. 16. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, H. A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, & Lord Howard de Walden, The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume X Oakham to Richmond, 1945, pp. 125-26. 17. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, H. A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, & Lord Howard de Walden, The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume X Oakham to Richmond, 1945, p. 125. 18. Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, Who Came To America before 1700, Additions and Corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Seventh Edition 1992, 1993, p. 10. 19. David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Second Edition, 1999, p. 60. 20. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Geoffrey H. White, F.S.A., F.R. Hist.S., The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume XI Rickerton to Sisonby, 1949, pp. 345, 698. 21. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, H. A. Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume V, Eardley of Spalding to Goojerat, 1926, p. 589. 22. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, H. A. Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume V, Eardley of Spalding to Goojerat, 1926, p. 590. 23. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, H. A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, & Lord Howard de Walden, The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume X Oakham to Richmond, 1945, pp. 121-23. 24. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, H. A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, & Lord Howard de Walden, The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume X Oakham to Richmond, 1945, pp. 122-23. 25. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, The Hon. Vicary Gibbs, The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., London, Volume I Ab-Adam to Basing, 1910, pp. 24-26. 26. Sir Bernard Burke, C.B., LL.D., Ulster King of Arms, Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire, Burke's Peerage/Genealogical Publishing Co., 1883, Reprinted 1985. 1996, p. 10.