Here are one of my many "Plantagenet couples:" James BUTLER , 4th Earl of Ormond Birth: ABT. 1392 Death: 23 AUG 1452 in Ardee, Ireland Burial: St. Mary's Abbey, nr. Dublin Note: Called "The White Earl." Lieutenant of Ireland. Name also borne as le Botiller. Married (2) in 1432, Elizabeth Fitz Gerald (c1392-1452), widow of John Grey, Knt., and daughter of Gerald Fitz Gerald, 5th Earl of Kildare, by Agnes Darcy. Refs: AR7 120:36 CP X:123 MCS 17:9; 24:9 Faris, PA 60, 350 Visitation of Worcester, 1569, p. 133 = Joan DE BEAUCHAMP Death: BET. 3 - 5 AUG 1430 in Shene, co. Surrey Burial: Chapel of St. Thomas Acon, London Refs: AR7 7:33; 120:36 MCS 17:9; 24:9 Faris, PA 60, 350 James BUTLER was a descendant of Edward I, via his da. Elizabeth of Northampton. Joan de BEAUCHAMP descended from Eleanor, da. of Henry ["Plantagenet"] of Grosmont, 3rd earl of Lancaster. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.