A possible point of confusion is that the wife of (3) Thomas de Londres [brother to (3) Maurice de Londres] is Escheyne de Molle. Their daughter, was also named Escheyne de Molle ( - aft 1177). Hope this helps. Jim > (1) Simon de Londres[1],[2] > & Sibylla[1] > (2) William de Londres , of Ogmore & Kidwelly[1],[2] ( - bet 1106-1128) > dd. bet 1106-1128[2] > (3) Maurice de Londres , of Ogmore & Kidwelly[2],[1] ( - 1149) > dd. 1149[2] <snip> > (3) Thomas de Londres[11],[12],[13],[2] > & Escheyne de Molle[14],[2] > (4) Escheyne de Molle*[11],[15],[13] ( - aft 1177) > dd. aft 1177[13] > & Walter fitz Alan ,High Steward of Scotland[11],[15],[16] ( - 1177) >