Jim, I'll be glad to share mine..Bubba. -----Original Message----- From: Jim & Sherry Beattie [mailto:jbeattie@kingston.net] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:29 PM To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PDP] Edward I Dear Le Would yopu be willing to share your connection through the Mowbray line as I am also a Mowbray descendant. all the best Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Le Bateman" <LeBateman@netzero.net> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [PDP] Edward I > Dear Shirley > Thanks for responding. My Wyatt lines connected through the Brooke, > Howard, Mowbrays, Neville, and many others. Even the Touchet\Tuchet which > were the Lord Audleys. I have a Neville, and Brooke that married Audleys > Ralph Fitz Randolph 2nd Lord Neville married Alice de Audley. And the Brooke > line Edward Brooke married a Elizabeth Tuchet ( de Audley). Whose father was > James 6th Lord Audley. In regard to the Counts of Flanders did one of the > Baldwins have a son named John de Bourg? Could have been John de Bourk. I > have not been able to confirm this. Supposedly one of my Birch ancestors was > a descendant of Baldwin III. Anyway the Baldwin whose sister Elftrude that > married Sigefried of Denmark. If not then what sources connected the family > of the Birches of Ardwick to this family? > Thank you > Le > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Friend1057@wmconnect.com> > To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 11:27 PM > Subject: Re: [PDP] Edward I > > > The Plantagenet ancestral line is indeed connected to Charlemagne. I have > family ancestors that links my lines to both and proves the connection > between > the two of them. I have traced my ancestors, and all on paper, back to about > 784 > AS.D. so tit is extensive to say the least. Good luck with your research. > > > Shirley > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I think I posted this already, but for those who did not see it. I descend from the Wiatts of Allington Maidstone Kent. My connection to the lines of the Plantagenets is through Elizabeth Brooke, her grandmother Margaret Neville. And great-grandmother was Katherine Howard daughter of Robert Howard and Margaret Mowbray. So the Brooke\Howard\Mowbray lines connect to Edward III. You can find the source in The Plantagenet Ancestry 1st. Ed. pp. 197, & 288. One other source is Magna Charta Sureties by Frederick Lewis Weis. 5th Ed. Le ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wrenn, Bubba" <bwrenn@umpublishing.org> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:30 PM Subject: RE: [PDP] Edward I Jim, I'll be glad to share mine..Bubba. -----Original Message----- From: Jim & Sherry Beattie [mailto:jbeattie@kingston.net] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:29 PM To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PDP] Edward I Dear Le Would yopu be willing to share your connection through the Mowbray line as I am also a Mowbray descendant. all the best Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Le Bateman" <LeBateman@netzero.net> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [PDP] Edward I > Dear Shirley > Thanks for responding. My Wyatt lines connected through the Brooke, > Howard, Mowbrays, Neville, and many others. Even the Touchet\Tuchet which > were the Lord Audleys. I have a Neville, and Brooke that married Audleys > Ralph Fitz Randolph 2nd Lord Neville married Alice de Audley. And the Brooke > line Edward Brooke married a Elizabeth Tuchet ( de Audley). Whose father was > James 6th Lord Audley. In regard to the Counts of Flanders did one of the > Baldwins have a son named John de Bourg? Could have been John de Bourk. I > have not been able to confirm this. Supposedly one of my Birch ancestors was > a descendant of Baldwin III. Anyway the Baldwin whose sister Elftrude that > married Sigefried of Denmark. If not then what sources connected the family > of the Birches of Ardwick to this family? > Thank you > Le > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Friend1057@wmconnect.com> > To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 11:27 PM > Subject: Re: [PDP] Edward I > > > The Plantagenet ancestral line is indeed connected to Charlemagne. I have > family ancestors that links my lines to both and proves the connection > between > the two of them. I have traced my ancestors, and all on paper, back to about > 784 > AS.D. so tit is extensive to say the least. Good luck with your research. > > > Shirley > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237