My William Longswords was the original one born in 900 A.D. He was the grandfather of Richard II "The Good" Duc de Normandie d.b. 996 who died 28 Aug 1026. Richard II Duc de Normandie 's mother was Gunnor of Denmark. His father was Richard I Duc de Normandie (933-996) 1m. 962. ----- Original Message ----- From: "decou" <decou@earthlink.net> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [PDP] RE: John de Bourg I'm curious about you saying that William the Conqueror descended from William Longswords. The only William Longswords I know of was William Longespee, a natural son of Henry II. He became Earl of Salisbury. Where does your William appear? JD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Le Bateman" <LeBateman@netzero.net> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [PDP] RE: John de Bourg > I am puzzled about the information below. So sorry for all of the > questions. Something does not seem right. I know that Robert "The Devil" > father of William The Conqueror was descended from William Longswords. I do > not think Robert Duc de Normandie and Huiloin de Counteville are the same. > And John de Bourg was the son of Baldwin II King of Jerusalem. Who was the > greatgreatgreatgrandson of Charlemagne. Baldwin II, Baldwin I, Rolland, > Godfrey, Charles The Child. > Le > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Burke" <patburke@guam.net> > To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 2:06 AM > Subject: [PDP] RE: John de Bourg > > > Hi Le; > In regard to John de Bourg, I have him as the son of Baldwin, founder of the > House of Blois. Baldwin was the son of Godfrey of Nuestra, sometimes called > Croise (cross). > > John gained his name by virtue of being commander of the Kings fortified > towns in the region of Normandy. he was also Baron of Toursbourg. His son, > Harlowen de Bourg, later Count de Conteville, married Arletta, the tanner's > daughter from Falaise, who had a child with the Duke of Normandy earlier, > who became known as William the Conqueror, King of England (1066). > > William travelled to England with his two half-brothers, Robert and odo. > After the Battle of Hastings, the two were well rewarded by William, with > Robert as Earl of Cornwall, Odo as Earl of Kent.It is from Robert that the > line becomes de Burgo (Latin version,after their arrival in England) and > later de Burgh (the Anglo-saxon spelling, a few years later) and then in > Ireland, it became Burke (in Galway) or Bourke (in Mayo). > > Actually, there are many variations to this name, as descendants adopted > names of their fathers, or of the area they lived etc. Bourk, Birch, and > many others, are all part of the line!! > > Patrick Burke > > -----Original Message----- > From: Le Bateman [mailto:LeBateman@netzero.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:38 PM > To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PDP] Edward I > > > Dear Shirley > Thanks for responding. My Wyatt lines connected through the Brooke, > Howard, Mowbrays, Neville, and many others. Even the Touchet\Tuchet which > were the Lord Audleys. I have a Neville, and Brooke that married Audleys > Ralph Fitz Randolph 2nd Lord Neville married Alice de Audley. And the Brooke > line Edward Brooke married a Elizabeth Tuchet ( de Audley). Whose father was > James 6th Lord Audley. In regard to the Counts of Flanders did one of the > Baldwins have a son named John de Bourg? Could have been John de Bourk. I > have not been able to confirm this. Supposedly one of my Birch ancestors was > a descendant of Baldwin III. Anyway the Baldwin whose sister Elftrude that > married Sigefried of Denmark. If not then what sources connected the family > of the Birches of Ardwick to this family? > Thank you > Le > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Friend1057@wmconnect.com> > To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 11:27 PM > Subject: Re: [PDP] Edward I > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237