No, I didn't. He recently changed his website. I have bought his compilation of previous issues, but don't subscribe to his journal. On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 10:41, JF wrote: > Gordon, > > Gordon Banks wrote: > > >Already did this before I posted. He confirmed this morning that the > >CDs are still available from his website. > > > Excellent. BTW, did you happen to ask if the "Plantagenet Connection" > will still be published? Thanks > > Jim > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Good idea...it might help to make a connection by including how the individual is linked to the Plantagenets, as well. Might as well take full advantage of this wonderful resource we have. The archives is fully searchable; you never know who might come along looking for your particular lineage. Kevin "Donna Delgadillo" <donna.d@mail.com> To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com cc: 04/02/2004 01:53 PM Subject: Re: [PDP] Elizabeth of York GEDCOM Please respond to PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANT S-PROJECT-L Ha, beat you... mine were at Jamestown! Donna Delgadillo I'm just playing, shouldn't we list who they are? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue VanCleave" <suzannevancleave@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:36:18 -0700 To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PDP] Elizabeth of York GEDCOM > Both my husband and I are descendents of the first colonist. In New York, > Rhode Island, Connecticut, Maryland and Massachusetts. > > Suzanne (Moore) VanCleave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Priestlybride" <priestlybride@ineva.com> > To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:57 AM > Subject: Re: [PDP] Elizabeth of York GEDCOM > > > > I just subscribed to this list a couple weeks ago and haven't participated > > yet. I am descended from the first colony in MD and my ancestors go back > to > > the Plantagenets also. I was just wondering how many of you were from the > > first colonies. If you care to reply, I was just interested. > > Wendy -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

I just subscribed to this list a couple weeks ago and haven't participated yet. I am descended from the first colony in MD and my ancestors go back to the Plantagenets also. I was just wondering how many of you were from the first colonies. If you care to reply, I was just interested. Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "JF" <gen9@cox.net> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [PDP] Elizabeth of York GEDCOM > Gordon et al, > > Gordon Banks wrote: > > >Those who are interested in Plantagenet ancestry may want to check out > >the CD with the ancestry of Elizabeth of York prepared by Marlyn Lewis. > >You can find it by navigating this web site: > > > >http://kennethharperfinton.com/ > > > >I'm not associated with Ken Finton, just a satisfied customer for the > >CD. > > > > > I'm not sure this enterprise is still in operation. You might want to > contact Ken to see just what the situation is currently. He's been > awfully quiet for some time and hasn't returned any email messages sent > recently. Just a thought... > > Jim > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Both my husband and I are descendents of the first colonist. In New York, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Maryland and Massachusetts. Suzanne (Moore) VanCleave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Priestlybride" <priestlybride@ineva.com> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [PDP] Elizabeth of York GEDCOM > I just subscribed to this list a couple weeks ago and haven't participated > yet. I am descended from the first colony in MD and my ancestors go back to > the Plantagenets also. I was just wondering how many of you were from the > first colonies. If you care to reply, I was just interested. > Wendy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JF" <gen9@cox.net> > To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:21 PM > Subject: Re: [PDP] Elizabeth of York GEDCOM > > > > Gordon et al, > > > > Gordon Banks wrote: > > > > >Those who are interested in Plantagenet ancestry may want to check out > > >the CD with the ancestry of Elizabeth of York prepared by Marlyn Lewis. > > >You can find it by navigating this web site: > > > > > >http://kennethharperfinton.com/ > > > > > >I'm not associated with Ken Finton, just a satisfied customer for the > > >CD. > > > > > > > > I'm not sure this enterprise is still in operation. You might want to > > contact Ken to see just what the situation is currently. He's been > > awfully quiet for some time and hasn't returned any email messages sent > > recently. Just a thought... > > > > Jim > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Here is one from the First Colonies: Edward Raynsford, Boston merchant: desc. of Henry III via Stephen Kirton, Alderman of London, 1549. "Priestlybride" <priestlybride@ineva.c To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com om> cc: Subject: Re: [PDP] Elizabeth of York GEDCOM 04/02/2004 11:57 AM Please respond to PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANT S-PROJECT-L I just subscribed to this list a couple weeks ago and haven't participated yet. I am descended from the first colony in MD and my ancestors go back to the Plantagenets also. I was just wondering how many of you were from the first colonies. If you care to reply, I was just interested. Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "JF" <gen9@cox.net> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [PDP] Elizabeth of York GEDCOM > Gordon et al, > > Gordon Banks wrote: > > >Those who are interested in Plantagenet ancestry may want to check out > >the CD with the ancestry of Elizabeth of York prepared by Marlyn Lewis. > >You can find it by navigating this web site: > > > >http://kennethharperfinton.com/ > > > >I'm not associated with Ken Finton, just a satisfied customer for the > >CD. > > > > > I'm not sure this enterprise is still in operation. You might want to > contact Ken to see just what the situation is currently. He's been > awfully quiet for some time and hasn't returned any email messages sent > recently. Just a thought... > > Jim > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

There's lots of charts out there to determine this as well. http://genealogy.about.com/library/nrelationshipchart.htm Here's just one. Christie

Gordon, Gordon Banks wrote: >Already did this before I posted. He confirmed this morning that the >CDs are still available from his website. > Excellent. BTW, did you happen to ask if the "Plantagenet Connection" will still be published? Thanks Jim

Wendy, My 7th ggf was Thomas Burnet, of Southampton, L.I., N.Y., one of the first English (he was actually a Scot) to settle Long Island in 1640-3. I have others also, but he's the main connection I have to the Plantagenets. Jim Priestlybride wrote: >I just subscribed to this list a couple weeks ago and haven't participated >yet. I am descended from the first colony in MD and my ancestors go back to >the Plantagenets also. I was just wondering how many of you were from the >first colonies. If you care to reply, I was just interested. >Wendy > > > >

Christie, It's a really good suggestion and it is even simpler than the method I used. It does have one small problem for us Plantagenet descendants--most of us may find ourselves dealing with 20+ generations and this one only goes to 10. But you got me thinking (that's almost always a good thing) and I discovered a cousin calculator you can download and use at: http://www.iroots.net/tools/cusncalc/ The web version, usable from this page, is good to 20th great grandchildren, and the downloadable version is good to 40th great grandchildren. So you can take part of the credit for this. Without your excellent chart suggestion I wouldn't have thought to look for this. Thanks. Jim Christie Williamson wrote: > There's lots of charts out there to determine this as well. > > http://genealogy.about.com/library/nrelationshipchart.htm > > Here's just one. > > Christie > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Was it elizabeth who married Thomas St. Leger? -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Banks [mailto:geb@gordonbanks.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:31 AM To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PDP] Elizabeth of York GEDCOM Those who are interested in Plantagenet ancestry may want to check out the CD with the ancestry of Elizabeth of York prepared by Marlyn Lewis. You can find it by navigating this web site: http://kennethharperfinton.com/ I'm not associated with Ken Finton, just a satisfied customer for the CD. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Gordon et al, Gordon Banks wrote: >Those who are interested in Plantagenet ancestry may want to check out >the CD with the ancestry of Elizabeth of York prepared by Marlyn Lewis. >You can find it by navigating this web site: > >http://kennethharperfinton.com/ > >I'm not associated with Ken Finton, just a satisfied customer for the >CD. > > I'm not sure this enterprise is still in operation. You might want to contact Ken to see just what the situation is currently. He's been awfully quiet for some time and hasn't returned any email messages sent recently. Just a thought... Jim

Already did this before I posted. He confirmed this morning that the CDs are still available from his website. On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 09:21, JF wrote: > Gordon et al, > > Gordon Banks wrote: > > >Those who are interested in Plantagenet ancestry may want to check out > >the CD with the ancestry of Elizabeth of York prepared by Marlyn Lewis. > >You can find it by navigating this web site: > > > >http://kennethharperfinton.com/ > > > >I'm not associated with Ken Finton, just a satisfied customer for the > >CD. > > > > > I'm not sure this enterprise is still in operation. You might want to > contact Ken to see just what the situation is currently. He's been > awfully quiet for some time and hasn't returned any email messages sent > recently. Just a thought... > > Jim > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Here is a simple shortcut method you can use to determine how any two people are related as cousins when they have a common ancestor. Lets say for example, your 21st great grandfather is another person's 21st great grandfather. Simply add 1 to your great grandfather's ordinal, 21+1=22. You are 22nd cousins. If, however, your 21st great grandfather is another person's 22 great grandfather, take the larger of the two ordinal numbers, in this case 22, and add 1. 22+1=23. You are basically 23rd cousins. Now take the difference in the two great grandfathers' ordinals, 22-21=1. You are one generation apart or, in genealogical terms, you are "once removed" (written as -1). Therefore, you are exactly 23rd cousins once removed (23rd -1). Again, this is a simplistic shortcut approach to finding out who is related to you and how. There are additional factors, too many to consider here, that can throw this off by a generation or more. But in most cases the results will be accurate. Just find the common ancestor between you and another--then figure out how the two of you are related. It must be the _closest_ common ancestor, so you may have to quiz each other or exchange short lists to find the right one. It does, however, beat uploading and downloading large lists, which can contain sensitive information that might be misused. Give it a try. Jim Just as an example, here is one line of my descent from John of Gaunt: John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, 17th ggf John Beaufort, Earl of Somerset, 16th ggf Lady Joan Beaufort, Queen of Scotland, 15th ggm (twice through both marriages, branches to another line) Lady Anabella Stewart, Princess of Scotland, 14th ggm

There is a tremendous difference between sharing "personal" genealogy data (such as the names of one's parents, siblings, children, etc.) and exchanging data on long-deceased forebears. The Plantagenets have been deceased for quite a while. Exercise caution, but realize that there are probably thousands of persons who share your remote ancestors with you, and in the case of the Plantagenets, the subject of this listserv, there are *millions* of us. Of this number, there are thousands who can demonstrate their particular descents in published records. Most of the data shared on these remote ancestors is in the public domain, already published. Where we may think we have made an original discovery with medieval lines, you can be nearly certain that someone else has already been there a long time ago and mapped it out. These ancient lines are no big secret. There is absolutely *nothing* wrong with exchanging data on early lineages, as long as the source originator is credited. Publishing living family data is another matter entirely and I would not recommend it: the persons you exchange information with are at best only remote cousins. What possible reason could they have for wanting to know the names of your immediate family? Studies have demonstrated that every person on the planet is at least your 40th cousin (in the case of the Plantagenets, it's much closer than that), so there may not be much to be gained by trying to determine who your 17th cousin two times removed is--fun though it may be to some. Let's share data on our ancient publicly-accessible ancestors, and leave the private facts private. All the best, Kevin "Suzanne Schroeder Enlow" To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com <my.chinadolls@verizon cc: .net> Subject: Re: [PDP] Thank you all 04/01/2004 11:40 PM Please respond to PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANT S-PROJECT-L The same thing happened to me. I sent info to a distant cousin and then poof, the info was on the internet (including ALL of of the information about living family although after several stern emails he did remove that). If I had wanted my work on the internet I would have put it on myself. Now I am very leary about who I share my research with. It is a shame that a couple of people have to try to ruin what is a enjoyable pastime. Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce White" <bwhite@cyberancestors.com> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [PDP] Thank you all > It would be interesting to know just what these 200 internet addresses > are. That seems to be quite a lot of sites that you have randomly > found. > On Mar 31, 2004, at 5:50 PM, JF wrote: > > > Hi Bubba, > > > > I exchanged information with a cousin a few years ago just for that > > very purpose--to see how we were related. Next thing I know it's on > > over 200 Internet web pages, some of which you pay a fee to join. It's > > also on at least one CD one of these outfits sells. Anything you put > > up on the Internet can be taken, misused, sold, and/or combined with > > other information. So just a cautionary note, be a little careful how > > you do this. > > > > Jim > > > > Wrenn, Bubba wrote: > > > >> Dear Jim and cousins, > >> Would it be helpful if we were able to place our families' > >> individual descent from the Plantagenets in a web site or something? > >> That way, we might be able to consolidate our relations to one > >> another? Any ideas? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Amanda McCormick [mailto:McCormackNnp@msn.com] > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:40 AM > >> To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [PDP] Thank you all > >> > >> > >> Jim, > >> > >> Thank you for the advise. I will continue with my search. > >> Amanda > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: JF<mailto:gen9@cox.net> To: > >> PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PLANTAGENET- > >> DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 > >> 12:34 AM > >> Subject: Re: [PDP] Thank you all > >> > >> > >> Amanda: > >> > >> Amanda McCormick wrote: > >> > >> >Thank you all for you help with Eleanor. I am descended from her > >> son Richard FITZALAN b. 1346 and died 21 Sep 1397. > >> > > >> Just a footnote or two. You shouldn't have too much difficulty > >> finding more about this branch and all their connections. Richard > >> FitzAlan and Eleanor de Lancaster have something on the order of > >> seven to eight thousand known ancestors between them. The FitzAlans > >> and the Stewart kings of Scotland share the same common ancestors. > >> The Lancasters are direct descendants of the Plantagenet (Angevin) > >> Kings of England. You can take these connections back a good many > >> centuries using good sources. > >> > >> Jim > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >> > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp? > >> targetid=4930&sourceid=1237<http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp? > >> targetid=4930&sourceid=1237> > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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No, she married Henry Tudor (Henry VII). On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 08:31, Wrenn, Bubba wrote: > Was it elizabeth who married Thomas St. Leger? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gordon Banks [mailto:geb@gordonbanks.com] > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:31 AM > To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PDP] Elizabeth of York GEDCOM > > > Those who are interested in Plantagenet ancestry may want to check out > the CD with the ancestry of Elizabeth of York prepared by Marlyn Lewis. > You can find it by navigating this web site: > > http://kennethharperfinton.com/ > > I'm not associated with Ken Finton, just a satisfied customer for the > CD. > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Those who are interested in Plantagenet ancestry may want to check out the CD with the ancestry of Elizabeth of York prepared by Marlyn Lewis. You can find it by navigating this web site: http://kennethharperfinton.com/ I'm not associated with Ken Finton, just a satisfied customer for the CD.

The same thing happened to me. I sent info to a distant cousin and then poof, the info was on the internet (including ALL of of the information about living family although after several stern emails he did remove that). If I had wanted my work on the internet I would have put it on myself. Now I am very leary about who I share my research with. It is a shame that a couple of people have to try to ruin what is a enjoyable pastime. Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce White" <bwhite@cyberancestors.com> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [PDP] Thank you all > It would be interesting to know just what these 200 internet addresses > are. That seems to be quite a lot of sites that you have randomly > found. > On Mar 31, 2004, at 5:50 PM, JF wrote: > > > Hi Bubba, > > > > I exchanged information with a cousin a few years ago just for that > > very purpose--to see how we were related. Next thing I know it's on > > over 200 Internet web pages, some of which you pay a fee to join. It's > > also on at least one CD one of these outfits sells. Anything you put > > up on the Internet can be taken, misused, sold, and/or combined with > > other information. So just a cautionary note, be a little careful how > > you do this. > > > > Jim > > > > Wrenn, Bubba wrote: > > > >> Dear Jim and cousins, > >> Would it be helpful if we were able to place our families' > >> individual descent from the Plantagenets in a web site or something? > >> That way, we might be able to consolidate our relations to one > >> another? Any ideas? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Amanda McCormick [mailto:McCormackNnp@msn.com] > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:40 AM > >> To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [PDP] Thank you all > >> > >> > >> Jim, > >> > >> Thank you for the advise. I will continue with my search. > >> Amanda > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: JF<mailto:gen9@cox.net> To: > >> PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PLANTAGENET- > >> DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 > >> 12:34 AM > >> Subject: Re: [PDP] Thank you all > >> > >> > >> Amanda: > >> > >> Amanda McCormick wrote: > >> > >> >Thank you all for you help with Eleanor. I am descended from her > >> son Richard FITZALAN b. 1346 and died 21 Sep 1397. > >> > > >> Just a footnote or two. You shouldn't have too much difficulty > >> finding more about this branch and all their connections. Richard > >> FitzAlan and Eleanor de Lancaster have something on the order of > >> seven to eight thousand known ancestors between them. The FitzAlans > >> and the Stewart kings of Scotland share the same common ancestors. > >> The Lancasters are direct descendants of the Plantagenet (Angevin) > >> Kings of England. You can take these connections back a good many > >> centuries using good sources. > >> > >> Jim > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >> > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp? > >> targetid=4930&sourceid=1237<http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp? > >> targetid=4930&sourceid=1237> > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Last week I found my great great grandfather on the 1841 Census giving me a birth year. I had been searching for TWENTY, yes 20 years for him. I exhausted every possible avenue I could until on a whim I sent a post to a rootsweb list. A day later I received an email with him and his family. A joyful day indeed! Cheers, Darren M Flowers Lismore NSW Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda McCormick" <McCormackNnp@msn.com> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:36 AM Subject: [PDP] My Search for Ancestors > Hello All, > > First off, I would like to thank everyone who assisted me. I had been running into a brick wall trying to find out information about my great-great-grandmother. It has taken me three years to track her information down. The doors finally opened about a month ago and thanks to you all, many more have swung wide. I never thought I would be able to go this far and each of you had a part in this. I am forever greatfull to you all. > > Many, many thanks, > Amanda > Boise, Idaho > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear Plantagenets, For those of you who may not be aware, for the past few years I have maintained a Website devoted to Plantagenet ancestry, with a particular focus on the family of Edward III of England and his son, John of Gaunt: http://home.earthlink.net/~kb60/plantagenet01.htm My site is non-commerical in nature, with the simple intent of sharing traditional resources (for instance, you will not find discussions of DNA or other popular methodologies mentioned or endorsed on my site) with persons who claim family relationships to the Plantagenet dynasty. That being said, any partnering with commercial ventures ("dot-coms") is neither sought nor desired: free sharing is a byword I like to live by. Plantagenet Genealogy & Biography is mentioned in the links of some excellent resources. I will be more than happy to link to anyone's personal Rootsweb pedigree or homepage (see "Plantagenet Cousins" section): http://home.earthlink.net/~kb60/plantagenet07.htm If anyone would like to incorporate my materials into their research or otherwise display it online in their own sites, I ask that you contact me first, as befitting family members. Most of us reading this message are relations to one another, howsoever distant that might be (John of Gaunt is my 18th great-grandfather). All of us are rivers that flow from the same source. There are many sites and homepages with an interest in the Plantagenets. Bringing these all together is an interesting objective and one to strive for; however, due to the broad scope of the Internet and people's individual interests, it's obviously not possible to consolidate every online resource one might happen to find. And of course, many electronic resources are here today, gone tomorrow. Change in the virtual world is exponential to that of the real world, which moves plenty fast enough. Since plagiarism is a natural outgrowth of the Internet, Rootsweb has an excellent feature that prevents persons or machines from wholesale copying of your online pedigrees. For privacy, the user can establish a date parameter that cuts off individuals born after a selected year. All the best, Kevin Bradford [Via Eleanor Lancaster FitzAlan, Anne Beaufort Paston, & Elizabeth Ferrers Greystoke] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Candida Weston" <c_weston@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:18 PM Subject: RE: [PDP] Thank you all > This is a great suggestion, Bubba. It would immediately sort many questions > (especially from newer listees). Not sure how I can help, but am willing to > support where possible (can put together non-database websites etc.) Aren't > there Plantagenet sites out there already that we could hook up with? Would > Rootsweb host a Plantagenet site or could we expand on what they have > already? > Candida Weston From: Wrenn, Bubba [mailto:bwrenn@umpublishing.org] > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:36 PM > To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [PDP] Thank you all > > Dear Jim and cousins, > Would it be helpful if we were able to place our families' individual > descent from the Plantagenets in a web site or something? That way, we might > be able to consolidate our relations to one another? Any ideas? > > Thanks. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

To All: I have used this website, and it is excellent. A special thanks, Kevin; I had this one, but lost it in a computer crash last week. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: <KBradford@lourdes-pad.org> To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:59 AM Subject: [PDP] Making Connections > Dear Plantagenets, > > For those of you who may not be aware, for the past few years I have > maintained a Website devoted to Plantagenet ancestry, with a particular > focus on the family of Edward III of England and his son, John of Gaunt: > > http://home.earthlink.net/~kb60/plantagenet01.htm > > My site is non-commerical in nature, with the simple intent of sharing > traditional resources (for instance, you will not find discussions of DNA > or other popular methodologies mentioned or endorsed on my site) with > persons who claim family relationships to the Plantagenet dynasty. That > being said, any partnering with commercial ventures ("dot-coms") is neither > sought nor desired: free sharing is a byword I like to live by. > Plantagenet Genealogy & Biography is mentioned in the links of some > excellent resources. I will be more than happy to link to anyone's > personal Rootsweb pedigree or homepage (see "Plantagenet Cousins" section): > > http://home.earthlink.net/~kb60/plantagenet07.htm > > If anyone would like to incorporate my materials into their research or > otherwise display it online in their own sites, I ask that you contact me > first, as befitting family members. Most of us reading this message are > relations to one another, howsoever distant that might be (John of Gaunt is > my 18th great-grandfather). All of us are rivers that flow from the same > source. > > There are many sites and homepages with an interest in the Plantagenets. > Bringing these all together is an interesting objective and one to strive > for; however, due to the broad scope of the Internet and people's > individual interests, it's obviously not possible to consolidate every > online resource one might happen to find. And of course, many electronic > resources are here today, gone tomorrow. Change in the virtual world is > exponential to that of the real world, which moves plenty fast enough. > > Since plagiarism is a natural outgrowth of the Internet, Rootsweb has an > excellent feature that prevents persons or machines from wholesale copying > of your online pedigrees. For privacy, the user can establish a date > parameter that cuts off individuals born after a selected year. > > All the best, > Kevin Bradford > > [Via Eleanor Lancaster FitzAlan, Anne Beaufort Paston, & Elizabeth Ferrers > Greystoke] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Candida Weston" <c_weston@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:18 PM > Subject: RE: [PDP] Thank you all > > > > This is a great suggestion, Bubba. It would immediately sort many > questions > > (especially from newer listees). Not sure how I can help, but am willing > to > > support where possible (can put together non-database websites etc.) > Aren't > > there Plantagenet sites out there already that we could hook up with? > Would > > Rootsweb host a Plantagenet site or could we expand on what they have > > already? > > Candida Weston > > From: Wrenn, Bubba [mailto:bwrenn@umpublishing.org] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:36 PM > > To: PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [PDP] Thank you all > > > > Dear Jim and cousins, > > Would it be helpful if we were able to place our families' individual > > descent from the Plantagenets in a web site or something? That way, we > might > > be able to consolidate our relations to one another? Any ideas? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >