I am very frustrated with the Canadian records. I can NOT find this family in 1851 on Ancestry, nor in 1881 on the LDS site. In fact, my searches of the LDS site return NO PIGGOTT entries in Ontario. I think they are having a problem. LDS RECORDS: WILLIAM F. Piggott Male Event(s): Birth: 1827 N, Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario Christening: Death: 29 APR 1883 Burial: Marriages: Spouse: Lovina House Marriage: 26 MAY 1850 N, Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario Charles Henry Piggott Male Event(s): Birth: 1851 N, Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario Christening: Death: 07 JUL 1924 Burial: Parents Father: WILLIAM F. Piggott Mother: Lovina House EDWIN A. Piggott Male Event(s): Birth: 1853 N, Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM F. Piggott Mother: Lovina House JOHN Colborne Piggott Male Event(s): Birth: 02 OCT 1854 N, Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario Christening: Death: 10 JUN 1928 Burial: Marriages: Spouse: Martha ANN Newcombe Marriage: 10 JAN 1876 Of Pt Burwell, , , Ontario Parents: Father: WILLIAM F. PIGGOTT Mother: LOVINA HOUSE Marshall Piggott Male Event(s): Birth: 1858 N, Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario Christening: Death: 14 NOV 1884 Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM F. Piggott Mother: Lovina House Minnie M. Piggott Female Event(s): Birth: 1862 N, Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM F. Piggott Mother: Lovina House WILLIAM F. Piggott Male Event(s): Birth: 1866 N, Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM F. Piggott Mother: Lovina House Sadie D. Piggott Female Event(s): Birth: 1868 Of N, Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM F. Piggott Mother: Lovina House Bertha Piggott Female Event(s): Birth: About 1870 Of N, Dorchester, Middlesex, Ontario Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM F. Piggott Mother: Lovina House Charles Edward Piggott Male Event(s): Birth: 14 DEC 1889 Malahide Twp, Elgin, Ontario Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: Edward Piggott Mother: Lydia Shipley Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C017857 Film Sheet: Roy Guildford Piggott Male Event(s): Birth: 19 FEB 1890 Malahide Twp, Elgin, Ontario Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: John C. Piggott Mother: Martha A. Newcombe Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C017857 Film Sheet: Etta A. Piggott Female ( Event(s): Birth: , , Ontario Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: J.C. Piggott Mother: Martha A. Newcomb Marriages: Spouse: D.B. Boughton Marriage: 15 APR 1896 West Bay City-Bay City, Bay, Michigan Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M018053 Film Sheet: Piggott Male Event(s): Birth: 31 DEC 1893 Of Malahide, Yarmouth Centre, Elgin, Ontario Christening: Death: 31 DEC 1893 Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN Colborne Piggott Mother: Martha ANN Newcombe Grant HARRIS Piggott Male Event(s): Birth: 04 MAY 1891 Malahide, Yarmouth Centre, Elgin, Ontario Christening: Death: 1957 Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN Colborne Piggott Mother: Martha ANN Newcombe Warren Munro Piggott Male Event(s):irth: 22 JUN 1879 Port Burwell, Elgin, Ontario Christening: Death: 31 MAR 1953 Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN Colborne Piggott Mother: Martha ANN Newcombe LORETTA Piggott Female Event(s): Birth: 17 MAR 1877 Pt Burwell, , , Ontario Christening: Death: 22 FEB 1966 Burial: Marriages: Spouse: Darius Brooks BOUGHTON Marriage: 15 APR 1896 Bay City, Bay, Michigan Parents: Father: JOHN COLBORNE PIGGOTT Family Mother: MARTHA ANNE NEWCOMBE ONTARIO BIRTH RECORDS Ancestry Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Name: Bruce Piggott Date of Birth: 28 Jul 1887 Gender: Male Birth County: Elgin Father's name: Edward Piggott Mother's name: Lydia Stukley Roll Number: MS929_81 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Name: Charles Edward Piggott Date of Birth: 14 Dec 1889 Gender: Male Birth County: Elgin Father's name: Edward Piggott Mother's name: Lydia Shipley Roll Number: MS929_98 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Name: Loretta Ann Piggott Date of Birth: 17 Mar 1876 Gender: Female Birth County: Elgin Father's name: John C Piggott Mother's name: Martha Ann Newc?? Roll Number: MS929_27 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Name: Walter Munro Piggott (Note: prob Warren) Date of Birth: 22 Jun 1879 Gender: Male Birth County: Elgin Father's name: John C Piggott Mother's name: Martha A Newcomb Roll Number: MS929_37 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Name: Morley Wentworth Piggott Date of Birth: 12 Feb 1888 Gender: Male Birth County: Elgin Father's name: John Colborne Piggott Mother's name: Martha Ann Newcombe Roll Number: MS929_87 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Name: Roy Guildford Piggott Date of Birth: 19 Feb 1890 Gender: Male Birth County: Elgin Father's name: John C Piggott Mother's name: Martha A Newcombe Roll Number: MS929_98 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Date of Birth: 4 May 1891 Gender: Male Birth County: Elgin Father's name: John Calborne Piggott Mother's name: Martha Ann Newcombe Roll Number: MS929_104 Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1907 Name: Marshal Francis Piggott Date of Birth: 21 Oct 1883 Gender: Male Birth County: Elgin Father's name: Marshal Piggott Mother's name: Sarah Beachan Roll Number: MS929_58 US CENSUS RECORDS IMPORTANT: There is apparently at least one other person searching this family on Ancestry.com, as all of the corruptions of the surname PIGGOTT, plus other transcription errors have been corrected with a User Note. 1900 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Bay > West Bay City 4 > District 62 John C Piggott West Bay City 4, Bay, Michigan Oct 1853 Canada English White Head Immigration year: 1892 (Note: incorrectly enumerated as age abt 44) Warren M Piggott West Bay City 4, Bay, Michigan Jun 1879 Canada English White Son Immigration year: 1892 (Note: Definitely Warren on the image) Mae Piggott West Bay City 4, Bay, Michigan Sep 1881 Michigan White Daughter Fred Piggott West Bay City 4, Bay, Michigan Oct 1885 Michigan White Son Morley Piggott West Bay City 4, Bay, Michigan Feb 1888 Canada English White Son Immigration year: 1892 Roy Piggott West Bay City 4, Bay, Michigan Feb 1890 Canada English White Son Immigration year: 1892 Grant Piggott West Bay City 4, Bay, Michigan May 1891 Canada English White Son Immigration year: 1892 1900 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Bay > West Bay City 4 > District 62 Dae B Boughton Etta West Bay City 4, Bay, Michigan Mar 1867 Michigan White Head Etta Boughton Dae B West Bay City 4, Bay, Michigan Mar1877 Canada English White Wife (Note: given name abbreviated Dar. Living next to John C Piggott family. Darius family is in census back to at least 1840) 1910 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Bay > Bay Ward 7 > District 48 Derious D Boughton Loretta Bay Ward 7, Bay, MI abt 1867 Michigan Head Loretta Boughton Derious D Bay Ward 7, Bay, MI abt 1877 Canada English Wife John W Boughton Derious D, Loretta Bay Ward 7, Bay, MI abt 1897 Michigan Son 1910 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Bay > Bay Ward 1 > District 37 Warren M Piggott Mary Bell Bay Ward 1, Bay, MI abt 1880 Canada English Head Year of Immigration: 1881 Mary Bell Piggott Warren M Bay Ward 1, Bay, MI abt 1880 Michigan Wife (Note: married 2 years, 0 children born) 1910 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Bay > Bangor > District 33 John A Richardson Mary Bangor, Bay, MI abt 1863 Ohio Head Mary Richardson John A Bangor, Bay, MI abt 1864 England Wife Fred A Piggott Eva Bangor, Bay, MI abt 1886 Canada English Son-in-law (Note: corrected by an Ancestry user as Fred M Piggott) Eva Piggott John A, Mary, Fred A Bangor, Bay, MI abt 1889 Ohio Daughter Etta May Piggott Fred A, Eva Bangor, Bay, MI abt 1908 Michigan Granddaughter Roy Piggott Bangor, Bay, MI abt 1890 Michigan Boarder (Note: Morley not found in 1910) 1910 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Kalamazoo > Kalamazoo Ward 2 > District 139 George C Delbert Gertrud M Kalamazoo Ward 2, Kalamazoo, MI abt 1878 Holland Head Gertrud M Delbert George C Kalamazoo Ward 2, Kalamazoo, MI abt 1882 Michigan Wife Hellen M Delbert Kalamazoo Ward 2, Kalamazoo, MI abt 1908 Michigan Adopted Robert S Delbert Kalamazoo Ward 2, Kalamazoo, MI abt 1909 Illinois Adopted Grant H Piggott Kalamazoo Ward 2, Kalamazoo, MI abt 1892 Michigan Brother-in-law (Note: shown as single, no previous record of a sister Gertrude) 1920 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Bay > Bay Ward 8 > District 81 Darius B Boughton Loretta A Bay Ward 8, Bay, Michigan abt 1868 Michigan White Head Loretta A Boughton Darnes B Bay Ward 8, Bay, Michigan abt 1878 Canada White Wife Immigrated: 1890, Naturalized 1899 1920 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Bay > Bay Ward 2 > District 57 Warren M Piggot Bay Ward 2, Bay, Michigan abt 1880 Canada White Head Lota Piggot Warren M Bay Ward 2, Bay, Michigan abt 1905 Michigan White Daughter Gertrude Delbert Bay Ward 2, Bay, Michigan abt 1882 Canada White Sister Helan Delbert Bay Ward 2, Bay, Michigan abt 1908 Michigan White Niece Stewart Delbert Bay Ward 2, Bay, Michigan abt 1910 Michigan White Nephew 1920 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Bay > Essexville > District 93 Fred M Piggott Eva L Essexville, Bay, Michigan abt 1885 Michigan White Head Eva L Piggott Fred M Essexville, Bay, Michigan abt 1890 Ohio White Wife Etta M Piggott Fred M, Eva L Essexville, Bay, Michigan abt 1908 Michigan White Daughter Warren M Piggott Fred M, Eva L Essexville, Bay, Michigan abt 1914 Michigan White Son Grace E Piggott Fred M, Eva L Essexville, Bay, Michigan abt 1915 Michigan White Daughter Jane D Piggott Fred M, Eva L Essexville, Bay, Michigan abt 1918 Michigan White Daughter The following does not appear to be OUR Morley Piggott. 1920 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Wayne > Detroit Ward 16 > District 484 Morley Piggott Detroit Ward 16, Wayne, Michigan abt 1899 Canada White Roomer Immigration: 1918, Alien (Note: Age is 10 years off) 1920 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Bay > Bay Ward 1 > District 54 Roy G Piggott Naomi T Bay Ward 1, Bay, Michigan abt 1891 Canada White Head Naomi T Piggott Roy G Bay Ward 1, Bay, Michigan abt 1898 Michigan White Wife Gilford R Piggott Roy G, Naomi T Bay Ward 1, Bay, Michigan abt 1919 Michigan White Son 1920 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Bay > Bay Ward 2 > District 57 Grant Piggott Amma Bay Ward 2, Bay, Michigan abt 1891 Canada White Head Immigrated: 1893, Naturalized 1905 or 1895 Amma Piggott Albert, Grant Bay Ward 2, Bay, Michigan abt 1885 Michigan White Wife David Piggott Grant, Amma Bay Ward 2, Bay, Michigan abt 1917 Michigan White Son Albert Stone Bay Ward 2, Bay, Michigan abt 1886 Michigan White Father-in-law 1930 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Bay > Bay City > District 27 Darius Boughten Etta Bay City, Bay, MI abt 1867 Michigan Head Etta Boughten Darius Bay City, Bay, MI abt 1877 Canada Wife 1930 United States Federal Census > Kansas > Leavenworth > Fort Leavenworth > District 17 Warren M Piggott Fort Leavenworth, Leavenworth, KS abt 1880 Canada Inmate (Note: OOOOOOPS! This is the United States Penitentiary ) 1930 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Bay > Bay City > District 6 Fred Piggott Eva T Bay City, Bay, MI abt 1888 Michigan Head Eva T Piggott Fred Bay City, Bay, MI abt 1889 Wife Warren Piggott Fred, Eva T Bay City, Bay, MI abt 1914 Son Grace Piggott Fred, Eva T Bay City, Bay, MI abt 1916 Daughter Jane Piggott Fred, Eva T Bay City, Bay, MI abt 1919 Daughter The following does not appear to be OUR Morley Piggott. 1930 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Wayne > Detroit (Districts 1073-1094) > District 1079 Morley Piggott Detroit, Wayne, MI abt 1899 Canada Head Immigration: 1919, Naturalized (Note: Age is 10 years off. Strange enumeration. Morley is listed as Head, with four male single partners. All have different occupations). 1930 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Bay > Bay City > District 4 Roy G Piggott Naoma Bay City, Bay, MI abt 1890 Canada Head Naoma Piggott Roy G Bay City, Bay, MI abt 1898 Wife Gilford Piggott Roy G, Naoma Bay City, Bay, MI abt 1920 Son Margaret Piggott Roy G, Naoma Bay City, Bay, MI abt 1924 Daughter 1930 United States Federal Census > Michigan > Wayne > Detroit (Districts 1073-1094) > District 1075 Grant H Piggott Anna S Detroit, Wayne, MI abt 1891 Michigan Head Anna S Piggott Grant H Detroit, Wayne, MI abt 1886 Wife David S Piggott Grant H, Anna S Detroit, Wayne, MI abt 1918 Son Albert F Piggott Grant H, Anna S Detroit, Wayne, MI abt 1921 Son Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com

Hi Linda, At 03:30 PM 11/18/2006, you wrote: >Further to Marshall Piggott - the murder victim of 1884. GREAT job!!!! Where did you find that? I am pulling together a huge amount of information on this family and will post it tonite. Regards, Joe Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com

Further to Marshall Piggott - the murder victim of 1884. I found the following information regarding custody of his young son: LNAME[ PIGGOTT FNAME[ MARSHALL HAMILTON RESID[ MALAHIDE DATE[ NOV 17, 1884 FILE[ 1220 MFNO[ 1385 NOTES[ - no will - described as a farmer and a widower - petitioners: Lavina Piggott; Frederick William Piggott; John Colborne Piggott - mother was Lavina Piggott of North Dorchester Township, Middlesex County, widow - son was Frank Piggott, 18 months old, who was with his maternal grandparents in Malahide BROTHERS AND SISTERS: - John Colborne Piggott, West Bay City, Michigan; - William Frederick Piggott, Nilestown, Middlesex County; - Charles Piggott, Portland, Oregon; - Edwin Piggott, East Saginaw, Michigan; - Minnie Carr, wife of William, Chicago, Illinois; - Ida Piggott, 17 years old; - Bertha Piggott, 13 years old FILE[ 1221 NOTES[ - described as a farmer - this was a petition for guardianship filed April 25, 1885 - petitioner was paternal grandmother, Lavina Piggott, North Dorchester Township,Middlesex County, widow - child was Marshall Piggott's son, Francis, who was 18 months old - maternal grandparents were William and Martha Beauchamp of Malahide His brother, Charles H. Piggott, of Portland Oregon built "Piggott's Folly", the picture and description can be seen at:http://photos.salemhistory.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/max&CISOPTR=438&REC=2 A photo of Charles H. Piggott can be viewed at: http://photos.salemhistory.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/max&CISOPTR=441&REC=1 This seems to be a VERY colourfull branch of the family. When I can connect them further back I will post.

Hi Linda, Thanks for a great post. Joe At 03:58 PM 11/16/2006, you wrote: >While trying to track Henry, I came across this story of the murder >or Marshall Piggott. Marshall came from Nilestown, North Dorchester >so I suspect he is related to Henry. I will find more on that later. Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com

Linda -- Thanks for the email regarding Marshall Piggott -- what an interesting story! I would love to learn more about this family... I would have emailed you directly, but your email address was not displayed in the post. Thanks again, Deb Wetlaufer

Hi List, I'm hoping someone ties in to this Canadian PIGGOTT that I extracted from an on line family tree at: http://www.wetlaufer.com/family/ Can anyone help Deb Welaufer? Joe Gender Male Buried Aft 12 Feb 1912 Union Cemetery in Dorchester, Middlesex County, Ontario Died 21 Feb 1912 [1] Person ID I515 myTree Last Modified 03 Jul 2006 20:46:00 Family Margaret UNKNOWN Children 1. Henry (Harry?) Piggot Last Modified 03 Jul 2006 20:46:00 Family ID F175 Group Sheet Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com

While trying to track Henry, I came across this story of the murder or Marshall Piggott. Marshall came from Nilestown, North Dorchester so I suspect he is related to Henry. I will find more on that later. http://gaslight.mtroyal.ab.ca/murray38.htm from Memoirs of a great detective: incidents in the life of John Wilson Murray (1904) compiled by Victor Speer THE lighthouse keeper on Long Point, on the north shore of Lake Erie, near Port Rowan, was sitting by the window one bitter cold morning in December 1884. The waves were pounding shoreward over a fringe of ice. The wind was howling in a gale, and not a sign of life was visible over the expanse of waters. The keeper idly swept the shoreline with his gaze, from horizon on the right to horizon on the left. He saw nothing but tumbling waters and icy rime. He poked the fire and resumed his seat. As he glanced out he saw a black object bobbing in the water it rose and fell and rolled as the waves beat in or receded it was coming shorewards. Thrice it was tossed up on the ice, and thrice it glided back and slid with a splash into the water. The fourth time the waters seemed to lift it up and toss it forward so that it lay a shapeless bundle on the shore. The keeper of the light levelled his glasses on it, and instantly laid them aside, donned his cap and coat, and hurried out. He ran down the shore to where the object lay, and knelt beside it. The figure was that of a man. The body was wound with rope, and the limbs were rope-bound. The hands were tied. Dickinson, the light keeper, picked up the icy body and carried it to the lonely lighthouse. He judged it was a sailor from some vessel of the lakes, gone to a watery grave and cast ashore long after death. He made a rough box, cut away the ropes from the body, and buried it as it was, boots and all, on Long Point. He marked the grave of the unknown dead with a board; there was no clue to the man's identity. His features were the face of a stranger; he wore no hat, his clothing was unmarked. Snow soon hid the grave, and Dickinson forgot about it, save for an occasional wondering, as he sat by the fire in the long winter nights, whether the man had come to his death by fair means or foul; whether he had died in his bunk naturally or whether in the night he had been seized and bound and buried alive in the waters that may give up their dead but tell no tales of their tragedies. A paragraph in the newspapers some days later said simply that an unknown body had been washed ashore on Long Point and had been buried by the keeper of the lighthouse. "Three months later," says Murray, "John Piggott, of Bay City, Michigan, communicated with the Government about this body. For months John Piggott had been searching for his brother Marshall Piggott. Marshall was a young farmer, twenty-nine years old, who lived in the township of Malahyde, county of Elgin, Ontario, about forty miles from Port Rowan. His father, before he died, gave him a small farm of about fifty acres on the shore of Lake Erie. Piggott married Sarah Beacham, a neighbouring farmer's daughter, and they settled on the little farm. They had no children. In the early part of 1884 Sarah died mysteriously, and one of the features of her death was a violent attack of retching. Marshall Piggott was not a bright man, but rather slow and simple minded. At ten o'clock on the morning of November 17th, 1884, a few months after his wife died, Marshall was seen going down the road toward the lake near his house. That was the last known of him. Some of the neighbours, when he failed to appear, thought he had gone on a visit to his brother John in Michigan. When John heard of it he began a search for his brother. He read the newspapers carefully for tidings of unknown dead, and when the Long Point burial was printed he saw it, and once more communicated with the Government. This was in March 1885, and on March 10th I went to St. Thomas and met John Piggott, and conferred with Judge Hughes. "John Piggott and I then went by train to Aylmer and thence drove to Port Rowan, and then drove on the ice to Long Point. We had the body dug up and the coffin opened. The body was decomposed, but John Piggott identified it positively as the body of his brother Marshall Piggott. He identified the boots as a pair he had worn and had given to Marshall. He identified a peculiar mark on the big toe of the right foot, and he also identified the peculiar pigeon-breast. William Dickinson, the lighthouse keeper, said that the face, when he found the body, bore a strong resemblance to the face of John Piggott. He said John and the dead man looked alike. There was little face when we saw the body; the head had been smashed in and the chin broken. Satisfied that the body was that of Marshall Piggott we had it taken to Port Rowan and buried. On March 24th I drove the mother of Marshall Piggott from her home in Nilestown, county of Middlesex, to Port Rowan and had the body exhumed, and the mother identified the clothes and the body. "Who killed him? The question presented itself the moment I saw the crushed skull and the lighthouse keeper told me of the way the body was bound with rope, and the way the hands and limbs were tied. It was not suicide. The rope and the wounds settled that; no man could have tied himself in such a manner. I asked the mother when she first heard of her son going away. She said that the day after Marshall disappeared in November, Havelock Smith, a young man, twenty-eight years old, who lived with his widowed mother on her farm, near the farm of Marshall Piggott, and whose family was respected highly and prominent in the country, had appeared at the house and said he wanted to see her alone. Her son, young William Piggott, was with her that day, making ready to go to Oregon to live. William stepped outside, and Havelock Smith then showed her a note for $1,300 made to him, ostensibly by Marshall Piggott. Havelock Smith told her, said the mother, that Marshall had given him the note the day before in exchange for $1,300, and Marshall had said he was going away. The note was dated the day Marshall disappeared. When asked where he got the money to lend to Marshall Havelock Smith said he borrowed it from Richard Chute. Mrs. Piggott said she would have to find her son, Marshall, before she could do anything about the note. She called her son young William, and told him to go to Marshall's place and look after it. I saw William. He told me he had driven back from Nilestown to Marshall's with Havelock Smith, and on the way Havelock asked William to help him get the money. The story about borrowing the money from Richard Chute I found untrue. "I went to Marshall's place, and I looked Havelock Smith over. Then I visited the neighbours one by one. I learned from Walter Chute and from Mrs. John Hankenson that on the day Marshall disappeared Havelock Smith went to Piggott's house about half-past nine o'clock in the morning. Smith and Piggott were seen later walking away in a south-easterly direction, toward Smith's farm. That was the last seen of Piggott alive. I learned that about four o'clock that afternoon Smith was seen by Walter Chute and his son, Ensley Chute. Smith had been seen first going toward a gully about half a mile from Piggott's house, and he was seen later coming back from the gully. This gully led to the lake, and was secluded. Walter Chute spoke to Smith on his way back; Smith's trousers were wet, as if he had been in the water. A shot had been fired while Smith was in the gully. Smith told Chute he had shot at a grey fox and missed it. "I learned that on the Sunday before Piggott disappeared Smith went to Port Royal, six miles away, and hired a row boat, and took it to his own gully and left it there the day Piggott disappeared. "I began a search for the weapon. I learned that some years before part of an old steamer had drifted ashore, and in the wreckage were some iron grate bars, each weighing about one hundred pounds. Walter Chute had found these bars. He had a maple sugar bush near the gully, and for arches in his sugar-boiling furnaces he used some of these grate bars. Shortly after Piggott disappeared Chute was in his maple grove and he missed one of these bars. "The theory of the prosecution was that Piggott had been inveigled to the gully to help launch the boat, that while launching the boat he was struck with a heavy, blunt instrument, which smashed his skull and drove his head down so that the chin was broken on the gunwale of the boat, that the iron bar was taken out in the boat, and tied to the body which was dropped in deep water. After the body was in the water some time it wanted to rise. The motion of the water, washing the body to and fro, cut the rope, the body rose and drifted forty miles to Long Point, near Port Rowan, where the lighthouse keeper found and buried it. This theory was upheld by the wounds on the head, the skull being smashed and the chin fractured. The shot heard by the Chutes was believed by the prosecution to be a blind to account for Smith's presence in that vicinity, as if hunting for a grey fox. The rope was not a new rope. I searched the country for miles around, but could get no trace of where it was obtained. It was not an uncommon kind of rope. "We got a tug and dragged the lake in the vicinity. We found the bar, and a piece of rope, and Piggott's hat. The hat was anchored to a stone. I learned also that after Piggott disappeared, Smith went to Buffalo, and on his return he said he had heard from Piggott while in Buffalo. "Havelock Smith was arrested on Tuesday, March 24th. Arthur Belford, a friend of Smith, also was arrested, but later was discharged. The preliminary investigation was quite lengthy. Smith was remanded for trial. Young William Piggott had gone to Oregon to live, and I went out to Portland, and brought him back on April 28th, and he gave evidence against Smith. "The trial of Havelock Smith began on Tuesday, November 24th, 1885, at St. Thomas. Chief Justice Armour presided. It became a famous case. John Idington, of Stratford, prosecuted for the Crown, assisted by Donald Guthrie, of Guelph, and County Attorney James Coyne, now registrar of the county of Elgin. Colin McDougal, James Robertson, and Edward Meredith defended Smith. The prosecution swore 108 witnesses. The defence swore a large number. The defence maintained that the body found by Dickinson, the lighthouse keeper, was not the body of Piggott. A Dr. McLay had obtained an order from the coroner, and had exhumed the body, and said that no one could tell whether it was the body of a white person or black person, man or woman. Aaron Dolby testified that Dr. McLay told Mrs. Dolby there was no doubt it was Piggott's body. The defence also put in an alibi with Smith's mother as the chief witness. An excerpt from the report of the charge of Chief Justice Armour to the jury will give a good idea of the trend of the testimony. The Chief justice said, in part: "'The prisoner (Smith) had a motive and interest in removing Marshall Piggott. Had any other person an interest or motive? if you believe that the body is that of Marshall Piggot and the note is a forgery, which could not be realised on except by the removal of the maker, then does not the evidence point conclusively to the prisoner as the perpetrator of the crimes? Why did the prisoner make so many untrue statements? What was the object of prisoner's visit to Buffalo? He told several people he had received a letter from Marshall at Buffalo. Why wasn't the letter produced? Wasn't the whole thing a blind to throw suspicion off himself? Who was it had the opportunity to kill Marshall, who had the motive, and who had the object? If you have reasonable doubt as to the guilt of the prisoner, then it is your duty to acquit him. But this doubt must be a reasonable one, gentlemen. If, after sifting the evidence thoroughly, and eliminating all that you believe to be false, you think that the evidence is equally divided as to the guilt or the innocence of the prisoner, then it is your duty to acquit him. But, if on the other hand, the facts and circumstances advanced by the Crown and the deductions to be drawn therefrom are, in your opinion, sufficiently strong to prove to you that Marshall Piggott met his death at the hands of an assassin, and that the prisoner was an active or passive participant in encompassing his death, then it is equally your duty to fearlessly and manfully record your verdict of guilty. You may now retire.' "The jury deadlocked. It stood five for conviction and seven for acquittal, and could not agree. "The second trial was set for May 1886. The defence was not ready, and the trial went over until September 1886, before Judge O'Connor, at St. Thomas. The case was fought out again. In selecting the jury for this second trial I objected strongly to certain jurors, but the Crown attorneys overruled me. They said they were satisfied the jurors were all right. They thought the defence would object to some of them. I said the defence would not object, and it then would be too late for the Crown. The panel was almost exhausted, and, against my urgent advice, they accepted two of these jurors. The result showed the jurors I objected to were the mainstay in holding out for a disagreement. The jury at this second trial stood seven for conviction and five for acquittal. The prisoner was released on $8,000 bonds. I advised a third trial, as there was no question in my mind as to who did it. Smith had a number of influential friends. His brothers, Harvey and William, were highly esteemed. William was a member of the County Council. At both trials there was great sympathy for Havelock Smith's family and relatives. "In this case the Chief justice said to the jury: 'The only certainty that human affairs permits of is a high degree of probability. You are not expected to have direct evidence of a crime. If such were the law, ninety-nine out of one hundred guilty men would go unpunished. Criminals seek secrecy for their crimes. If a witness comes forward and says he saw a man kill another by a blow, or in any other way, there is always the possibility that he may be telling an untruth, and there must always be corroborative evidence of a circumstantial character.' The Chief Justice's charge, in the report, also contains the sentence: 'Circumstantial evidence is the best kind of evidence!' "I read a lot of praise of the circumstantial case of the Crown against Havelock Smith. My mind is undimmed by a doubt on this case. Smith, the last I heard, still was around in that vicinity, and Marshall Piggott lies buried not far away."

Hi Ciara, I would like a copy Thanks Sue >-- Original Message -- >From: "Ciara" <Ciara.Knox@bigpond.com.au> >To: <piggott@rootsweb.com> >Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:52:10 +1100 >Subject: [PIGGOTT] Piggott Assisted Immigrants >Reply-To: piggott@rootsweb.com > > >Hi List >If anyone would like a copy of the Piggotts that came to Australia as >Assisted Immigrants, please contact me, I posted most of them to the list > >back in 2003 but not all. >The file is an Excel one and the info included is: >Ship: >Date of Arrival: >Names: >Age: >Native Place: >Calling: >Parents (and if living or dead): >Religion: >R & W ability: >Relations already in the Colony: > >I compiled the info from NSW State records and it includes all the details > >available on the reels listed in the index that is available online at NSW > >State records. > >Kind regards >Ciara. > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PIGGOTT-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the message ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Unlimited Broadband with FREE weekend calls only 12.99! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/

Joe, My records show that William & Harriet departed Southampton on the 10/1/1855 and arrived Sydney 13/4/1855 on the Rose of Sharon. Apparently he had a cousin Nathan already living in Sydney. Regards Col Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Bissett" <jbissett@hot-peppers.com> To: <piggott@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:37 PM Subject: [PIGGOTT] William PIGGOTT / Harriet KING Clavering, Essex > > >I am a member of a number of lists and I think the Piggott list is the most > >informative of all that I am a member. Well done Joe. > > Thanks for the kind words (blush !) :-[ > > By the way, folks. I am able to send a copy of each of the pertinent > census pages to you. If anyone needs a copy of a census page that I > post here on the list, please send me a message OFF LIST. Please put > "Census Page Request" in the subject line so I don't accidentally > delete your message from the thousands that I receive each week. :-) > > >My Piggott interest is also the Australian connection being William & > >Harriet King with William being my GG Grandfather. I would be happy to > >assist in relation to this line. > > Colin, you probably already have this information, but I'm posting it > here for others. The family does not appear in the 1861 census, so > I'm assuming that they went to Australia. Can you please confirm or > deny, and if so, provide an approximate immigration date? > > 1851 Census > William Piggott Harriet abt 1826 Clavering, Essex, > England Head Clavering Essex > Harriet Piggott William abt 1830 Langley, Essex, > England Wife Clavering Essex > Charles W Piggott William, Harriet abt 1848 Langley, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > Emily Piggott William, Harriet abt 1850 Clavering, Essex, > England Daughter Clavering Essex > > This Barker family is enumerated on the same page, so I'm including them) > Thomas Barker Hannah abt 1807 Berden, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex > Hannah Barker Thomas abt 1814 Wicken, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex > William Barker Thomas, Hannah abt 1837 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > Mary A Barker Thomas, Hannah abt 1841 Clavering, Essex, > England Daughter Clavering Essex > Charles E Barker Thomas, Hannah abt 1844 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > Alfred Barker Thomas, Hannah abt 1846 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > > > Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb > I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access > otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ > I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ > Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PIGGOTT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List If anyone would like a copy of the Piggotts that came to Australia as Assisted Immigrants, please contact me, I posted most of them to the list back in 2003 but not all. The file is an Excel one and the info included is: Ship: Date of Arrival: Names: Age: Native Place: Calling: Parents (and if living or dead): Religion: R & W ability: Relations already in the Colony: I compiled the info from NSW State records and it includes all the details available on the reels listed in the index that is available online at NSW State records. Kind regards Ciara.

Hi list, Does anyone know if John Piggott of Australia is still researching the PIGGOTT line from Essex? His old e-mail address was: "John Piggott" <jpiggott@iprimus.com.au> I would like to contact John because information that he provided in 2002 is pertinent to the development effort we are currently pursuing. Thanks, Joe Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com

Hi Joe & List, I am a member of a number of lists and I think the Piggott list is the most informative of all that I am a member. Well done Joe. My Piggott interest is also the Australian connection being William & Harriet King with William being my GG Grandfather. I would be happy to assist in relation to this line. Regards Col Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Bissett" <jbissett@hot-peppers.com> To: <susanpiggott@tiscali.co.uk> Cc: <piggott@rootsweb.com>; <Ciara.Knox@bigpond.com.au> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:29 PM Subject: [PIGGOTT] Frederick PIGGOTT, siblings and ancestry, Clavering, Essex > Hi Susan, > > I have quickly pulled together a huge amount of information on Ray's > line. You folks go back to the Clavering, Essex PIGGOTTs, of whom > there were MANY! One branch went to Australia. You are in luck in > that there is a lister from Australia, Ciara Knox, who has researched > this line. Her e-mail address is in the Cc: line of this > message. In August of this year Ciara posted a lengthy message, > Langley Essex Extract of PIGGOTT Marriages from 1757. Some of yours > are in that list. Also, in early 2003 another person from Australia, > Naida, who does not appear to still be a list member, posted a series > of message on PIGGOTT Births, Marriages and Deaths in Essex. Again, > many of yours are included. To search the PIGGOTT list archives, go to: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=PIGGOTT > > Here are instructions for subscribing to our list: > Subscribing. Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, > but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual > instructions: to join PIGGOTT-L, send mail to > <mailto:PIGGOTT-L-request@rootsweb.com>PIGGOTT-L-request@rootsweb.com > with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. > * > <mailto:PIGGOTT-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe&body=subscribe>Subs cribe > to PIGGOTT-L > Since we have your line in the 1881 census, I am sending you via > separate message an invitation to join Lost Cousins. By posting your > 1881 census information (use the FREE census at: > > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/searc h_census.asp > ) > > you will increase your chances enormously of finding actual living > relations, without false alarms. Just be sure to try and add ALL of > you sideline information (married siblings, etc.) as well as your > main PIGGOTT data from 1881. > > Based on the information that you provided in your last message > quoted at the end below, I have probably found the marriage of > Frederick's parents. I also confirmed his twin - Lillian. So far I > have not found Jack, but I found the others. > > Surname First name(s) District Vol Page > Marriages Dec 1903 > Gray Jessie Augusta Edmonton 3a 875 > Piggott William Henry Edmonton 3a 875 > > Piggott Births recorded in Edmonton, Volume 3 a > > Possibles based on Given Name > 1904 > Mar > William Harry 496 > (Note: if the marriage is correct, this is probably NOT your W. H. (Harry) > > 1905 > Mar > Jane Lydia 585 > > Jun > William Henry > > These have Gray listed as mother > 1911 > Sep > George E 1138 > > 1913 > Mar > Alfred H 1113 (Your Alf) > > 1918 > Dec > Leslie C 775 (Your Les) > > 1920 > Dec > Frederick 1061 > Lillian 1061 > > Assuming this is Frederick's father William Henry living alone as > enumerated in the 1901 census. Page image sent separately. > > 1901 England Census > Name: William H Piggott > Age: 23 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 > Relation: Head > Gender: Male > Where born: Clavering, Essex, England > Civil Parish: Tottenham > Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter > Town: Tottenham > County/Island: Middlesex > Country: England > Street address: 18 Astell Road > Occupation: Engraver's labourer > Condition as to marriage: Single > Education: > Employment status: Worker > Registration district: Edmonton > Sub-registration district: Tottenham > ED, institution, or vessel: 20 > Neighbors: View others on page > Household schedule number: 136 > Household Members: > Name Age > William H Piggott 23 > > There are several possibilities for Jessie Augusta Gray in the 1901 > census. Do you know Jessie's mother's name by any chance? If not, > we will have to wait until you retrieve the marriage certificate. > > The family in 1891 > Moses Piggott Harriet abt 1849 Clavering, Essex, England Head Ugley Essex > Harriet Piggott Moses abt 1850 Clavering, Essex, England Wife Ugley Essex > James Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1870 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Ugley Essex > Charles I Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1872 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Ugley Essex > Sarah E Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1874 Clavering, Essex, > England Daughter Ugley Essex > William H Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1877 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Ugley Essex > Annie Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1884 Clavering, Essex, > England Daughter Ugley Essex > Jane M Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1886 Clavering, Essex, > England Daughter Ugley Essex > Albert W Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1888 Stanstead, Essex, > England Son Ugley Essex > > The family in 1881 > Moses Piggott Harriett abt 1850 Clavering, Essex, > England Head Clavering Essex > Harriett Piggott Moses abt 1850 Clavering, Essex, > England Wife Clavering Essex > James Piggott Moses, Harriett abt 1870 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > Charles I. Piggott Moses, Harriett abt 1872 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > Sarah E. Piggott Moses, Harriett abt 1874 Clavering, Essex, > England Daughter Clavering Essex > William H. Piggott Moses, Harriett abt 1877 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > > The family in 1871 > Moses Piggott Horritt abt 1848 Clavering, Essex, > England Head Clavering Essex > Horritt Piggott Moses abt 1850 Clavering, Essex, > England Wife Clavering Essex > Thomas Piggott Moses, Horritt abt 1868 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > James Piggott Moses, Horritt abt 1870 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > (Note: thomas probably passed away before 1881. Horritt is > mis-transcription for Harriett) > > The family in 1861 > John Piggott Jane abt 1821 Clavering, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex > Jane Piggott John abt 1826 Clavering, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex > Moses Piggott John, Jane abt 1847 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > Fred Taylor abt 1857 Clavering, Essex, England Nephew Clavering Essex > Eliza Rickett abt 1835 Quenden, Essex, England Servant Clavering Essex > (Note: this is the correct Moses, based on estimated birth date) > > Related family in 1861 > John Piggott Rebecca abt 1802 Clavering, Essex, > England Head Clavering Essex > Rebecca Piggott John abt 1804 Langley, Essex, > England Wife Clavering Essex > Moses Piggott John, Rebecca abt 1841 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > Aaron Piggott John, Rebecca abt 1844 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > Jane Piggott John, Rebecca abt 1847 Clavering, Essex, > England Daughter Clavering Essex > > The families in 1851 > John Piggott Jane abt 1822 Clavering, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex > Jane Piggott John abt 1827 Clavering, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex > Moses Piggott John, Jane abt 1846 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > Thomas Piggott John, Jane abt 1849 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > James Taylor abt 1832 Clavering, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex > (Note: obvious problem with James as a Wife. Looks like this Thomas > died before 1861.) > > John Piggott Rebecca abt 1801 Clavering, Essex, > England Head Clavering Essex > Rebecca Piggott Keziah, John abt 1803 Langley, Essex, > England Wife Clavering Essex > Daniel Piggott John, Rebecca abt 1839 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > Moses Piggott John, Rebecca abt 1841 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > Aaron Piggott John, Rebecca abt 1844 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering EssexJane Piggott John, Rebecca abt > 1846 Clavering, Essex, England Daughter Clavering Essex > Keziah Barker abt 1761 Rickling, Essex, > England Mother-in-law Clavering Essex > > David Piggott Mary abt 1826 Clavering, Essex, > England Head Clavering Essex > Mary Piggott David abt 1826 Elsenham, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex > Charles Piggott David, Mary abt 1850 Clavering, Essex, > England Son Clavering Essex > > Jane Barker abt 1794 Ireland Head Clavering Essex > Mary Barker Jane abt 1838 Clavering, Essex, > England Daughter Clavering Essex > > James Barker Matilda abt 1808 Berden, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex > Matilda Barker James abt 1808 Manuden, Essex, > England Wife Clavering Essex > Martha Barker James, Matilda abt 1841 Brent Pelham, Hertfordshire, > England Daughter Clavering Essex > > The families in 1841 (ages are rounded down for this census for those > above 10 years) > Dane Piggott abt 1801 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Elizabeth Piggott abt 1801 Essex, England Clavering Essex > John Piggott abt 1821 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Nathaniel Piggott abt 1826 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Maria Piggott abt 1831 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Hannah Piggott abt 1833 Essex, England Clavering Essex > James Piggott abt 1837 Essex, England Clavering Essex > > Keziah Barker abt 1781 Essex, England Clavering Essex > John Piggott abt 1801 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Rebecca Piggott abt 1806 Essex, England Clavering Essex > William Piggott abt 1826 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Mary Piggott abt 1829 Essex, England Clavering Essex > George Piggott abt 1831 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Lydia Piggott abt 1835 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Daniel Piggott abt 1838 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Moses Piggott abt 1841 Essex, England Clavering Essex > (Note: on same page with the Barker family below) > > George Piggott abt 1791 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Elizabeth Piggott abt 1796 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Thomas Piggott abt 1821 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Alice Piggott abt 1821 Essex, England Clavering Essex > David Piggott abt 1826 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Sarah Piggott abt 1828 Essex, England Clavering Essex > William Piggott abt 1830 Essex, England Clavering Essex > George Piggott abt 1833 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Eliza Piggott abt 1837 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Charles Piggott abt 1840 Essex, England Clavering Essex > > James Barker abt 1811 Brent Pelham Hertfordshire > Matilda Barker abt 1811 Brent Pelham Hertfordshire > Susana Barker abt 1838 Hertfordshire, England Brent Pelham Hertfordshire > Martha Barker abt 1840 Hertfordshire, England Brent Pelham Hertfordshire > > Jane Barker abt 1801 Ireland Clavering Essex > Elizabeth Barker abt 1821 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Ann Barker abt 1827 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Philip Barker abt 1829 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Daniel Barker abt 1832 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Rhoda Barker abt 1834 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Mary Barker abt 1837 Essex, England Clavering Essex > Esther Barker abt 1839 Essex, England Clavering Essex > > Now that you have this "little homework assignment", you will > probably wish that you had never heard of me. :-) > > In any event, I wish that I could have this level of success helping everyone. > > Regards, Joe > > > > At 12:38 PM 11/11/2006, you wrote: > >Thank you very much for replying. > >I shall certainly follow up on all your suggestions. > >My husband Ray is very excited by all this information, although he says > >it seems he did not know his father very well at all, they did work together > >at William Press & Sons before 1973. We have a Pewter Tankard presented to > >Fred for 25 years service with them inscribed 1948 - 1973. We also know that > >he was in Egypt in the 2 world war and we have two medals (the common ones) > >we know he was shot and transported to a hospital in Scotland. But he would > >never talk about it. > >We also know that Fred was the youngest child and was possibly a twin (only > >Fred survived) There was one sister called Jane / Jayne who married a Rowley. > >I remember going to her funeral back in the 1980's. > >At Fred's funeral in 1988 his siblings that attended were W.H. (Harry) who > >lived in Harlow. Les who lived in Bournemouth. Jack who lived in Tottenham. > >Alf who lived in Tottenham. > > Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb > I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access > otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ > I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ > Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PIGGOTT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

>I am a member of a number of lists and I think the Piggott list is the most >informative of all that I am a member. Well done Joe. Thanks for the kind words (blush !) :-[ By the way, folks. I am able to send a copy of each of the pertinent census pages to you. If anyone needs a copy of a census page that I post here on the list, please send me a message OFF LIST. Please put "Census Page Request" in the subject line so I don't accidentally delete your message from the thousands that I receive each week. :-) >My Piggott interest is also the Australian connection being William & >Harriet King with William being my GG Grandfather. I would be happy to >assist in relation to this line. Colin, you probably already have this information, but I'm posting it here for others. The family does not appear in the 1861 census, so I'm assuming that they went to Australia. Can you please confirm or deny, and if so, provide an approximate immigration date? 1851 Census William Piggott Harriet abt 1826 Clavering, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex Harriet Piggott William abt 1830 Langley, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex Charles W Piggott William, Harriet abt 1848 Langley, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex Emily Piggott William, Harriet abt 1850 Clavering, Essex, England Daughter Clavering Essex This Barker family is enumerated on the same page, so I'm including them) Thomas Barker Hannah abt 1807 Berden, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex Hannah Barker Thomas abt 1814 Wicken, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex William Barker Thomas, Hannah abt 1837 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex Mary A Barker Thomas, Hannah abt 1841 Clavering, Essex, England Daughter Clavering Essex Charles E Barker Thomas, Hannah abt 1844 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex Alfred Barker Thomas, Hannah abt 1846 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com

Hi Susan, I have quickly pulled together a huge amount of information on Ray's line. You folks go back to the Clavering, Essex PIGGOTTs, of whom there were MANY! One branch went to Australia. You are in luck in that there is a lister from Australia, Ciara Knox, who has researched this line. Her e-mail address is in the Cc: line of this message. In August of this year Ciara posted a lengthy message, Langley Essex Extract of PIGGOTT Marriages from 1757. Some of yours are in that list. Also, in early 2003 another person from Australia, Naida, who does not appear to still be a list member, posted a series of message on PIGGOTT Births, Marriages and Deaths in Essex. Again, many of yours are included. To search the PIGGOTT list archives, go to: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=PIGGOTT Here are instructions for subscribing to our list: Subscribing. Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join PIGGOTT-L, send mail to <mailto:PIGGOTT-L-request@rootsweb.com>PIGGOTT-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. * <mailto:PIGGOTT-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe&body=subscribe>Subscribe to PIGGOTT-L Since we have your line in the 1881 census, I am sending you via separate message an invitation to join Lost Cousins. By posting your 1881 census information (use the FREE census at: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp ) you will increase your chances enormously of finding actual living relations, without false alarms. Just be sure to try and add ALL of you sideline information (married siblings, etc.) as well as your main PIGGOTT data from 1881. Based on the information that you provided in your last message quoted at the end below, I have probably found the marriage of Frederick's parents. I also confirmed his twin - Lillian. So far I have not found Jack, but I found the others. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1903 Gray Jessie Augusta Edmonton 3a 875 Piggott William Henry Edmonton 3a 875 Piggott Births recorded in Edmonton, Volume 3 a Possibles based on Given Name 1904 Mar William Harry 496 (Note: if the marriage is correct, this is probably NOT your W. H. (Harry) 1905 Mar Jane Lydia 585 Jun William Henry These have Gray listed as mother 1911 Sep George E 1138 1913 Mar Alfred H 1113 (Your Alf) 1918 Dec Leslie C 775 (Your Les) 1920 Dec Frederick 1061 Lillian 1061 Assuming this is Frederick's father William Henry living alone as enumerated in the 1901 census. Page image sent separately. 1901 England Census Name: William H Piggott Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Clavering, Essex, England Civil Parish: Tottenham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Tottenham County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: 18 Astell Road Occupation: Engraver's labourer Condition as to marriage: Single Education: Employment status: Worker Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Tottenham ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 136 Household Members: Name Age William H Piggott 23 There are several possibilities for Jessie Augusta Gray in the 1901 census. Do you know Jessie's mother's name by any chance? If not, we will have to wait until you retrieve the marriage certificate. The family in 1891 Moses Piggott Harriet abt 1849 Clavering, Essex, England Head Ugley Essex Harriet Piggott Moses abt 1850 Clavering, Essex, England Wife Ugley Essex James Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1870 Clavering, Essex, England Son Ugley Essex Charles I Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1872 Clavering, Essex, England Son Ugley Essex Sarah E Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1874 Clavering, Essex, England Daughter Ugley Essex William H Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1877 Clavering, Essex, England Son Ugley Essex Annie Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1884 Clavering, Essex, England Daughter Ugley Essex Jane M Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1886 Clavering, Essex, England Daughter Ugley Essex Albert W Piggott Moses, Harriet abt 1888 Stanstead, Essex, England Son Ugley Essex The family in 1881 Moses Piggott Harriett abt 1850 Clavering, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex Harriett Piggott Moses abt 1850 Clavering, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex James Piggott Moses, Harriett abt 1870 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex Charles I. Piggott Moses, Harriett abt 1872 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex Sarah E. Piggott Moses, Harriett abt 1874 Clavering, Essex, England Daughter Clavering Essex William H. Piggott Moses, Harriett abt 1877 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex The family in 1871 Moses Piggott Horritt abt 1848 Clavering, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex Horritt Piggott Moses abt 1850 Clavering, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex Thomas Piggott Moses, Horritt abt 1868 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex James Piggott Moses, Horritt abt 1870 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex (Note: thomas probably passed away before 1881. Horritt is mis-transcription for Harriett) The family in 1861 John Piggott Jane abt 1821 Clavering, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex Jane Piggott John abt 1826 Clavering, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex Moses Piggott John, Jane abt 1847 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex Fred Taylor abt 1857 Clavering, Essex, England Nephew Clavering Essex Eliza Rickett abt 1835 Quenden, Essex, England Servant Clavering Essex (Note: this is the correct Moses, based on estimated birth date) Related family in 1861 John Piggott Rebecca abt 1802 Clavering, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex Rebecca Piggott John abt 1804 Langley, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex Moses Piggott John, Rebecca abt 1841 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex Aaron Piggott John, Rebecca abt 1844 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex Jane Piggott John, Rebecca abt 1847 Clavering, Essex, England Daughter Clavering Essex The families in 1851 John Piggott Jane abt 1822 Clavering, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex Jane Piggott John abt 1827 Clavering, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex Moses Piggott John, Jane abt 1846 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex Thomas Piggott John, Jane abt 1849 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex James Taylor abt 1832 Clavering, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex (Note: obvious problem with James as a Wife. Looks like this Thomas died before 1861.) John Piggott Rebecca abt 1801 Clavering, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex Rebecca Piggott Keziah, John abt 1803 Langley, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex Daniel Piggott John, Rebecca abt 1839 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex Moses Piggott John, Rebecca abt 1841 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex Aaron Piggott John, Rebecca abt 1844 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering EssexJane Piggott John, Rebecca abt 1846 Clavering, Essex, England Daughter Clavering Essex Keziah Barker abt 1761 Rickling, Essex, England Mother-in-law Clavering Essex David Piggott Mary abt 1826 Clavering, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex Mary Piggott David abt 1826 Elsenham, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex Charles Piggott David, Mary abt 1850 Clavering, Essex, England Son Clavering Essex Jane Barker abt 1794 Ireland Head Clavering Essex Mary Barker Jane abt 1838 Clavering, Essex, England Daughter Clavering Essex James Barker Matilda abt 1808 Berden, Essex, England Head Clavering Essex Matilda Barker James abt 1808 Manuden, Essex, England Wife Clavering Essex Martha Barker James, Matilda abt 1841 Brent Pelham, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Clavering Essex The families in 1841 (ages are rounded down for this census for those above 10 years) Dane Piggott abt 1801 Essex, England Clavering Essex Elizabeth Piggott abt 1801 Essex, England Clavering Essex John Piggott abt 1821 Essex, England Clavering Essex Nathaniel Piggott abt 1826 Essex, England Clavering Essex Maria Piggott abt 1831 Essex, England Clavering Essex Hannah Piggott abt 1833 Essex, England Clavering Essex James Piggott abt 1837 Essex, England Clavering Essex Keziah Barker abt 1781 Essex, England Clavering Essex John Piggott abt 1801 Essex, England Clavering Essex Rebecca Piggott abt 1806 Essex, England Clavering Essex William Piggott abt 1826 Essex, England Clavering Essex Mary Piggott abt 1829 Essex, England Clavering Essex George Piggott abt 1831 Essex, England Clavering Essex Lydia Piggott abt 1835 Essex, England Clavering Essex Daniel Piggott abt 1838 Essex, England Clavering Essex Moses Piggott abt 1841 Essex, England Clavering Essex (Note: on same page with the Barker family below) George Piggott abt 1791 Essex, England Clavering Essex Elizabeth Piggott abt 1796 Essex, England Clavering Essex Thomas Piggott abt 1821 Essex, England Clavering Essex Alice Piggott abt 1821 Essex, England Clavering Essex David Piggott abt 1826 Essex, England Clavering Essex Sarah Piggott abt 1828 Essex, England Clavering Essex William Piggott abt 1830 Essex, England Clavering Essex George Piggott abt 1833 Essex, England Clavering Essex Eliza Piggott abt 1837 Essex, England Clavering Essex Charles Piggott abt 1840 Essex, England Clavering Essex James Barker abt 1811 Brent Pelham Hertfordshire Matilda Barker abt 1811 Brent Pelham Hertfordshire Susana Barker abt 1838 Hertfordshire, England Brent Pelham Hertfordshire Martha Barker abt 1840 Hertfordshire, England Brent Pelham Hertfordshire Jane Barker abt 1801 Ireland Clavering Essex Elizabeth Barker abt 1821 Essex, England Clavering Essex Ann Barker abt 1827 Essex, England Clavering Essex Philip Barker abt 1829 Essex, England Clavering Essex Daniel Barker abt 1832 Essex, England Clavering Essex Rhoda Barker abt 1834 Essex, England Clavering Essex Mary Barker abt 1837 Essex, England Clavering Essex Esther Barker abt 1839 Essex, England Clavering Essex Now that you have this "little homework assignment", you will probably wish that you had never heard of me. :-) In any event, I wish that I could have this level of success helping everyone. Regards, Joe At 12:38 PM 11/11/2006, you wrote: >Thank you very much for replying. >I shall certainly follow up on all your suggestions. >My husband Ray is very excited by all this information, although he says >it seems he did not know his father very well at all, they did work together >at William Press & Sons before 1973. We have a Pewter Tankard presented to >Fred for 25 years service with them inscribed 1948 - 1973. We also know that >he was in Egypt in the 2 world war and we have two medals (the common ones) >we know he was shot and transported to a hospital in Scotland. But he would >never talk about it. >We also know that Fred was the youngest child and was possibly a twin (only >Fred survived) There was one sister called Jane / Jayne who married a Rowley. >I remember going to her funeral back in the 1980's. >At Fred's funeral in 1988 his siblings that attended were W.H. (Harry) who >lived in Harlow. Les who lived in Bournemouth. Jack who lived in Tottenham. >Alf who lived in Tottenham. Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com

This Remembrance Day, on behalf of our entire family, I wish to memorialize my Grandfather, Frederick Edward Piggott, who was killed in action on the first day of the Gallipoli invasion, April 25, 1915. Please take just a moment to review the life and passing of this remarkable man. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=12154520 In fondest memory, Horace F. "Joe" Bissett, Jr.

Hi Susan, I am replying to you directly in order to provide this information to our other PIGGOTT researchers. Unfortunately this time period is "on the cusp" as one might say. The wonderful Free BMD (Birth/Marriage/Death) volunteer transcription effort is just now beginning to add meaningful numbers of records in the 1910 -1920 period. http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl I have personally downloaded a huge number of PIGGOTT index pages from 1837 On Line (now Find My Past), but unfortunately recording of the mother's maiden name only began in 1910. http://www.findmypast.com/HomeServlet The good news is that I did find your father in law and a probable older brother: From my 1837 On Line records: Your father in law's birth was recorded in the fourth quarter of 1920, mother's maiden name GRAY, in Edmonton District, Middlesex, volume 3a page 1061. On Free BMD I also found this birth, which is almost certainly an older brother: Births Sep 1911 Piggott George E Gray Edmonton 3a 1138 There are at least three other PIGGOTT families having children in Edmonton during this period, so although I have downloaded the Marriage indices, I can not find Frederick's father without some idea of his given name. Dealing with us "mature" folks about family history can sometimes be a touchy problem. When working with my aunt, I have found that if I casually throw out some bit of information (NOT in the form of a direct question) it will frequently trigger a memory and a response that might provide additional clues. You might try something like "I see that Fred's older brother George was named after his father". Now you don't really "know" that, but it could trigger a memory that would confirm that she remembers George, and it could possibly give you the father's given name. Once you identify the father, I can probably help you a lot. Both the father and mother will be shown on the birth certificates. You can obtain a copy of the birth certificates on line from many sources. Our listers may volunteer their experience obtaining certificate copies, but in the mean time, here is an easy way to find sources of certificates. Just Google: obtain "birth certificate" england When I entered that search I received a multitude of sources. I suggest that you stick with the government, as that should be the least expensive. Remember, you only need a COPY, not a CERTIFIED certificate. Naturally, I also suggest that you join our PIGGOTT list. :-) As soon as we take your family back to the turn of the century, there is already probably a wealth of information in our list archives, and chances are that you will "tie in" to at least one other lister. I am always happy to help. Regards, Joe >Hi Joe, I am very new to Ancestry . I noticed your posting and >wondered if you have any info on my father in law FREDERICK PIGGOTT >1920 - 1988 born / live at the family home of 43 grove park road, >Tottenham, london, England. All I know is that his mother was Grey / >Gray. My mother in law is still livng but at 90 odd she is not very >helpful with the past or the pesent come to that! >I hope you can helpme or point me in the right direction >regards Sue er Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com

Hi List, There are now 167 PIGGOTT and 141 PIGOTT souls listed on the Find A Grave web site: http://www.findagrave.com/ If you are missing family members who might have died in action in WWI or WWII, there are many folks adding information concerning deceased warriors. Be they English, Canadian, Australian or American, many are being listed on the web site. I have been submitting update information on some of the entries. Hopefully if you find one of your ancestors, you will do the same. If your ancestor is not yet listed, it takes just a few moments to enter the information. This is an excellent way to find others who are researching your ancestors. Regards, Joe Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com

Hey List, I actually found a grand uncle, extracted from the London Gazeteer. Regards, Joe Gazette Issue 33759 published on the 6 October 1931. Page 41 of 72 NOTICE is hereby given that the Partnership heretofore subsisting between us, the undersigned, George Drew Piggott and William George Seymour, carrying on business as Greengrocers, Fruiterers and Florists, at 98, Montague Street, and 4A, Graham Road, Worthing, in the county of Sussex, under the style or firm of PIGGOTT & SEYMOUR, has been dissolved by mutual consent as and from the thirtieth day of September, 1931. All debts due to and owing by the said late firm will be received and paid by William George Seymour, who will continue to carry on the said business under the style or firm of W. G. Seymour. -- Dated the 1st day of October, 1931. G. D. PIGGOTT. (134) W. G. SEYMOUR. Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com

Extracted from another list: >Source: ANGUS@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ANGUS] Spare bmd's > > >1940 Deaths - Forfar >Elizabeth Cable Paton, Single, died 1942 July (date unreadable) in Forfar >Infirmary, 73 years, daughter of James Paton & Isabella Cable >John Smart, died July 24, 1910, 66 years, son of John Falmend Smart & Agnes >Rae? >Richard Bower Piggot, married to Mary Duffy, died 1910 July 25, 54 years, >son of David Milne Piggot & Annie Biuer Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com

Hi List, I found this on another list. Can anyone help Cari? Regards, Joe Source: ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY@rootsweb.com Subject: [Black Country] St Lukes Hednesford Hello everyone I am wondering if anyone is aware of monumental inscription or burial info for St Lukes. I have Francis and Sophia Piggott in Hednesford c.1861/71. Francis was a Coal and Lime Merchant living at White Hill House. Sophia died 1873 and I am presuming burial was at St Lukes and I am hoping there might be more info regarding her origins. If anyone can help I`d be really grateful. Many thanks Cari Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www/LostCousins.com