Joe, I spent yesterday in the Australian War Memorial's Research Centre in Canberra. They advise the exciting news that World War 1 Unit Diaries are currently being digitalised, & should be available on-line within, they predict, 3 months time. The Unit Diary for the 5th Battalion may provide you with some more detail of your grandfather's career, although the staff did caution that the contents of Unit Diaries varied markedly from Unit to Unit. C.E.W. BEAN wrote the "Official History of Australia in the War of 1914-18." I expect you will already know this, as this resource is already online through the awm website. BEAN did refer directly to Sgt F.E. PIGGOTT in Volume 1 - The Story of Anzac, which clearly suggests the Unit Diary will hold further details, although you may already have them from prior research. At p.395, BEAN wrote: "Between 1 & 2 o'clock, the incessant fire upon the plateau and Bolton's Ridge was having its effect upon the infantry. The Turkish battery near Anderson's Knoll had been attracted by the bark of the guns, and this part of the plateau was now being raked by a cross-fire from two directions. The line could be seen coming & going in front. After almost every retirement, some brave man led it forward. But parties, or single men, finding themselves unsupported or in some place which seemed to their tortured brains a range mark for the enemy's shells, worked rearward into the crevices behind the hillside and tended to straggle into the bottoms of the gullies behind the Australian line. KIRBY, seeing this movement, became anxious for the safety of his guns. RAFFERTY's escort was now reduced to 12; KIRBY therefore moved him to the right rear of the guns, while he himself, with Sergeant-Major PIGGOTT (fn) of the 5th Battalion, an old British soldier, rounded up what men they could f! rom the valley. "(fn) - S.S.M. F.E. PIGGOTT, 5th Bn. Instructor in Aust Permanent Forces, of Melbourne; born St Peter's, Kent, 1 Sep 1877. Died of wounds, 26 Apr 1915." He is also named in Brig F.W. SPEED's "Esprit de Corps. The History of the Victorian Scottish Regiment & the 5th Infantry Battalion" (Allen & Unwin, Sydney, 1988), at page 40: "In the confused situation, several N.C.O.s were outstanding in gathering together stragglers and leading them forward. One was Sergeant N.C. CRELLIN... "Another was Sergeant-Major F.E. PIGGOTT, an old British regular, who gathered several groups of confused and leaderless men from various battalions and led them across the plateau. Unfortunately, both were killed later in the fight." Regards, Chris.

Hi List, I extracted this one marriage from a summary of the LIPFORD family. If anyone needs more info on that line, just let me know. Joe >Source: LIPFORD@rootsweb.com >Subject: [LIPFORD] Fwd: Looking for Lipfords, revised > 9. John Henry Lipford, born about 1835 Pittsylvania County, >Virginia; died 1893 McNairy County, Tennessee; married Mary Jane >Pigott 1860 McNairy County, Tennessee Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www.LostCousins.com/

Hi Chris, At 07:08 PM 05/02/2007, you wrote: >I spent yesterday in the Australian War Memorial's Research Centre >in Canberra. You make me jealous !! :-) Thanks once again for your support, both to me personally and to the list. I assure you that it is much appreciated. I have seen references to the quotes you sent to me, and they fill out another piece in the puzzle that was my Grandfather. I will be waiting in anticipation for the digitized 5th Battalion diaries. I was not aware of this project, so you brought me good news on that issue, as well. Warm regards, Joe Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www.LostCousins.com/

Hi List, I extracted this one marriage from a summary of the LIPFORD family. If anyone needs more info on that line, just let me know. Joe >Source: LIPFORD@rootsweb.com >Subject: [LIPFORD] Fwd: Looking for Lipfords, revised > 9. John Henry Lipford, born about 1835 Pittsylvania County, >Virginia; died 1893 McNairy County, Tennessee; married Mary Jane >Pigott 1860 McNairy County, Tennessee Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www.LostCousins.com/

Hi folks, Anyone lay claim to this seagoing PIGGOTT ancestor? Regards, Joe At 02:16 PM 04/30/2007, you wrote: >Source: MARINERS@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MAR] HMS Van Meerlant > >I do not have a full casualty list, only the officers: > >Sub Lieut. Nigel Moore >Sub Lieut. Robert Charles Palmer >Lieut. (E) Reginald Robert Perrett > >and seven of the ratings: >Second Hand Charles Whitby Blakly Quickfall >O/Tel Donald Ian Blair >O/Tel James Patrick Dolan >Sig Jack Eric Marsh >Seaman Andrew Watson >Ord. Seaman Leslie Adams >Stoker William Marshall > > >I know the Commanding Officer survived, although badly wounded - Commander >Arnold Stewart Piggott. Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www.LostCousins.com/

>Source: GEN-OBIT@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GEN-OBIT] Obituary Daily Times V13No156 > >Obituary Daily Times V13No156 >Visit the ODT web site at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary> > >LAST NAME, First Name (MAIDEN); Age; Place of Death; Newspaper Name; >Newspaper date >PIGOTT, Frank E; 54; Johannesburg ZAF>Enumclaw WA; BurienHighlineT; 1967-2-1 Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www.LostCousins.com/

http://www.awm.gov.au/units/unit_11192.asp

Further information re World war I with mention of Frederick E PIGGOTT Official Histories - First World War Volume I - The Story of ANZAC from the outbreak of war to the end of the first phase of the Gallipoli Campaign, May 4, 1915 (11th edition, 1941) C E W Bean This first volume starts with the outbreak of war and ends on 4 May 1915 - just nine day after the fateful Gallipoli landing. It sets the whole campaign in perspective, starting with the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria in June of 1914 and the almost inevitable build-up to full-scale invasion and war. The Australians and New Zealnaders were quick to respond to the calls of the mother country, recruiting for the AIF beginning six days after the outbreak of war. And by early November the first Australian and New Zealand contingent was able to sail from Australia arriving in Cairo in early December. http://www.awm.gov.au/histories/chapter.asp?volume=2 http://www.awm.gov.au/cms_images/histories/2/chapters/17.pdf regards Joy

Hello all Anzac Day special report is available at http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/indepth/section/0,,5012802,00.html and http://abc.net.au/melbourne/ will have the Melbourne ANZAC DAy march via streaming. regards Joy

Lancelot SANDES, of Kilcavan, Queen's Co, died Easter 1728. He is named in the 1708 will of Capt John PIGOTT (ca 1768-1710) of Kilcromin, same Co, & of New North Sound, St John's Division, Antigua. Lancelot's 1st wife was Elizabeth PIGOTT, daur of Thomas PIGOTT (ca 1640-1702) of Dysart, same Co, & sister of Captain John of Antigua. Their two sons, Pigott SANDES & his brother Capt Richard, were executors of the 1728 will of their uncle, Robert PIGOTT (ca 1664-1730) of Dysart, Queen's Co. I do not have all the references in my head. I do recall that some personal notes on the SANDES connection were contained in Pole COSBY's "Autobiography," published in the Journal of the Archeological Society of Kildare, & the PIGOTT will details can be found in Vere Langdon OLIVER's 1895 publication, "The History of Antigua." I also have transcriptions of a number of SANDES & associated deeds from the Dublin Deeds Registry. I will look up the fine point details, & post them to you, with some additional information, off-list to your personal e-mail address. I have a vague recollection that the name ROTHERAM appears somewhere in my SANDES notes at home. Regards, Chris PIGOTT, Potts Point, N.S.W.

I saw a piece about Thomas Piggott of Dysart on the message board for July 2006. I'm pursuing a line of enquiry about the connection between my family (Rotheram) and the Sandes family in the 17th -18th century, and I was very interested in the information in the message about Lancelot Sandes (d 1728). There was a George Rotheram leasing land from him in Westmeath in 1714. I would be interested to know the source of the info about Lancelot Sandes and whether anyone knows more about the Sandes of Kilcavan.

Dear Penny, Chris and List Thank you for all your help, I have now discovered from a previous unknown family member, that Marjorie D Piggott was daughter of William Robert Piggott and Agnes Letitia Taylor! Hooray! Thank you very much Suzannah Hello again Susannah..Working on the premise that Helen Piggott was Helen Amos (you were lucky to find those photos) married at Parramatta in 1932/14279 to Ernest J Piggott who is possibly the brother of Marjorie Piggott married Foad therefore sister in law. Ernest was born in Campbell town (its is near Liverpool) in 1906/ 12044 to William R and Agnes L. Piggott. William R married Agnes L Taylor at Marrickville (Registration district of Sydney) in 1904. William R born to William and Catherine in 1875. There are no deaths for William R to 1976 (latest date online) but there is a death for Agnes Letitia Piggott in 1962/ 32122 at Liverpool daughter of Richard John and Fanny Letitia. You will find this information online at NSW BDM and certificates cost 25 Australian dollars. I think you may find Marjorie on this death certificate. Hope this is good news. Cheers Penny George & Mary PIGGOTT had issue a son Daniel PIGGOTT, bt Saffron Walden, Essex, 22 Jul 1759. Daniel PIGGOTT, probably the above, had issue by his wife Alice, inter alia, a 3rd child & eldest son: George PIGOTT, b 7 Sep & bapt Saffron Walden, 14 Sep 1788; Starling Green, Clavering, with wife & family, 1841; Shopkeeper, Starling Green, with wife & 3 ch'n, 1851 Census; bur Clavering, 1 Aug 1854, aged 63; marr Elizabeth (-?-), who was born Wicken, Essex, ca 1792; she was bur Clavering, 7 Aug 1864; issue: 1. Daniel PIGGOTT, b 23 Aug & bt Saffron Walden, 11 Oct 1812. 2. James PIGGOTT, bt Clavering, 2 Jul 1815; bur Clavering, 4 Feb 1824. 3. Thomas PIGGOTT, bt Clavering, 22 Jan 1817; with parents, 1841; Agr Labr, Starling Green, Clavering, 1851, 1861; marr Elizabeth BARKER alias FARNHAM (b Clavering, ca 1818); issue 4 sons & 6 daurs. 4. Aaron PIGGOTT, bt Clavering, 25 Nov 1821; Agr Labr, Starling Green, Clavering, 1851, with wife; marr Clavering, 6 Jun 1846, Jemima HAMMOND (b Arkesden, Essex, daur of Timothy & Mary HAMMOND); emigrated to N.S.W., 1855. See [A] below. 5. Nathan PIGGOTT, bt Clavering, 3 Feb 1824; bur Clavering, 21 May 1824. 6. David PIGGOT, bt Clavering, 25 Sep 1825; with wife & son, Starling Green, Cavering, 9 Dec 1848; emigrated to N.S.W., 1857. See [B] below. 7. Sarah PIGGOTT, b ca 1828; with parents, 1841. 8. William PIGGOTT, b Clavering, ca 1830; with parents, 1841; Carpenter journeyman, with parents, 1851; Master Carpenter, Cock Village, Great Sampford, Essex, 1861 Census, with wife & 2 ch'n; marr Clavering, 18 Jun 1853, Emma WISBEY, aged 23, daur of James WISBEY; issue a son & daur by 1861. 9. George PIGGOTT, bt Clavering, 16 Dec 1832; with parents, 1841, 1851; Miller's Labr, Starling Green, 1861, with mother. 10. Eliza PIGGOTT, bt Clavering, 2 Oct 1836; with parents, 1841, 1851; prob bur Saffron Walden, 26 Oct 1851, aged 15. 11. Charles PIGGOTT, bt Clavering, 31 May 1840, with parents, 1841; bur Clavering, 26 Oct 1841. [A] Aaron PIGGOTT arr Sydney, 5 Aug 1855, on the ship "Euphrates" from Southampton; settled in or near Campbelltown, N.S.W.; died Campbelltown, 1 Sep 1893, intestate (Adm'on, N.S.W. Probate Index); Jemima died Campbelltown, 1907 #13148; issue: 1. William PIGGOTT, b Clavering, Essex, ca 1851; aged 3 on arrival in Sydney; Farmer, Minto, N.S.W., 1909, with wife & son; died at Minto, 27 Aug 1938; N.S.W. Probate Index; marr Campbelltown, 1874 #2094, Catherine Elizabeth ROBERTS; she died Campbelltown, 1925 #16192 (parents Robert R. & Elizabeth); issue: a. William Robert PIGGOTT, b Campbelltown, 1875 #9140; Labourer, with parents & wife, 1909; marr Marrickville, N.S.W., 1904 #6873, Agnes Letitia TAYLOR; issue: i. Ernest J. PIGOTT, b Campbelltown, 1906 #12044; probably marr at Parramatta, 1932 #14279, Helen E. AMOS. ii. Agnes M. PIGGOTT, b Marrickville, 1910 #40348; prob marr Campbelltown, 1932 #7753, Raymond C. OKE. iii. Ida Gladys PIGGOTT, b Marrickville, 1913 #6714; prob marr Campbelltown, 1936 #14279, James Edward BARNSLEY. [B] David PIGGOTT, arr Sydney, 27 May 1857, on the ship "Herefordshire" from Plymouth; also settled at Minto/Campbelltown; died Campbelltown, 1964 #3415; issue: 1. Charles PIGGOTT, b Clavering, 1850; with parents, 1851; aged 5 on arrival in N.S.W.; Orchardist, Minto, with wife & 2 ch'n, 1909; died Campbelltown, 2 May 1928, buried Congregational Cemetery, Campbelltown; prob marr Campbelltown, 1872 #1889R, Sarah CRAFT (b Campbelltown, ca 1853, daur of Edward CRAFT & Hannha VIDLER); she died Granville, N.S.W., 4 Jan 1933; issue: a. George Edward PIGGOTT, b Campbelltown, 1872. b. Aice Mary PIGGOTT, b Campbelltown, 1874; with parents, 1909. c. David James PIGGOTT, b Campbelltown, 1876; died Hunter's Hill, N.S.W., 1929. d. Ernest Charles PIGGOTT, b & d Campbelltown, 1878. e. Afred Herbert PIGGOTT, b Campbelltown, 1880; died Guildford, N.S.W., 18 Aug 1939; marr Campbelltown, 1900, Louise E. BOYER; issue: i. Rita M. PIGGOTT, b Campbelltown, 1901; Rita Mary PIGGOTT marr Granville, 1936, William Edward FAULKINER; Rita M. PIGGOTT marr Auburn, N.S.W., 1934, Leonard J. ROBERTSON. [Unable to determine which is appropriate to this family.] ii. Della L. PIGGOTT, b Campbelltown, 1902; prob mar Parramatta, 1923, Charles T. RUTHERFORD. iii. Marjorie I. PIGGOTT, b Campbelltown, 1908; prob arr Granville, 1929, Sidney E. TERRY. iv. Ronald A. PIGGOTT, b Campbelltown, 1917; Ronald Alfred Boyer PIGGOTT, prob the same, marr Granville, 1943, Emily Karran HALSALL. f. Charles E. PIGGOTT, b Campbelltown, 1886 #16803; poss marr Campbelltown, 1931 #6770, Eva E. NICHOL. g. Emily Pearl PIGGOTT, b Cambpelltown, 1892 #9790; died Campbelltown, 23 Sep 1949; marr Campbelltown, 1917 #5204, Eustace Claude DAINES. h. Clarice A. PIGGOTT, b Campbelltown, 1895 #2364; marr Campbelltown, 1920 #2558, Warren W. DICK. j. Cecil Henry PIGGOTT, b Campbelltown, 1898 #29554; died Camden, N.S.W., 1936 #8816; prob marr Petersham, N.S.W., 1930 #10871, Nellie RAWSON. 2. James PIGGOTT, b ca 1855; aged 1 on arrival in N.S.W.; died Newtown, 20 Mar 1917; marr Campbelltown, 1877 #2513, Mary Ann DOGGETT; she prob died 24 Dec 1947 & buried at Rydal (M.I.); ; issue: a. Eliza Mary PIGGOTT; b Sydney, 1880. b. Mabel PIGGOTT, b Hartley, N.S.W., 1882; poss marr Sunny Corner, N.S.W., 1922, James RAY. c. Pennuel PIGGOTT, b Hartley, 1883; poss died Lithgow, N.S.W., 1885 (parents named), but the Rydal M.I. recorded his death on 31 Jul 1883. d. Kathleen M. PIGGOTT, b Lithgow, 1886; died Wallewarang, N.S.W., 28 Nov 1913, bur Rydal (M.I.). e. Nellie PIGGOTT, b Lithgow, 1888. f. Emily L. PIGGOTT, b Lithgow, 1889; Emily Lillian PIGGOTT died Rydal, 16 Sep 1947 (N.S.W. Probate Index). g. Alice S. PIGGOTT, b Lithgow, 1891. h. George H. PIGGOTT, b Lithgow, 1893; poss marr Sydney, 1918, Bessie NORCROSS. j. James PIGGOTT, b Lithgow, 1895. k. Alfred PIGGOTT, b Sydney, 1902. Other PIGGOTT burials at Rydal were James, died 9 Jun 1960; Max, died 21 Jun 1974; & Alice M., died 7 Mar 1977. Nearly all of the above constitutes a speculative pedigree based on available indexed information on the public record. Some of the presumptions may be incorrect. Numbers marked witn * after a year date alone, indicate Registered number of an unseen entry. Some full death dates obtained from Probate Index A few years ago, it was possible to obtain a Registry Transcript for about half the price of a full certified entry; I have the name of a Transcription Agent. Daniel & Alice had other issue in Saffron Walden, some of whose descendents also went to N.S.W., for which I have details. Very happy to receive corrections &/or additions. I hope some of it may help in recent PIGGOTT-List queries about Marjorie PIGGOTT. Regards, Chris PIGOTT, Potts Point, N.S.W.

Hello Joe & other members There is this information on Frederick E Piggott to check out http://www.awm.gov.au/nominalrolls/ww1/embarkation/person.asp?p=172360 http://www.awm.gov.au/roh/person.asp?p=145-44171 http://www.cwgc.org/search/SearchResults.aspx?surname=piggott&initials=&war=1&yearfrom=1900&yearto=2000&force=&nationality=&send.x=37&send.y=14 These links will probably lead to further information. I live in Melbourne so may (sorry I cant promise) be able to chase up some newspaper information. ANZAC DAY is next week and my son's school band is playing in the Melbourne ANZAC day March (which entails me taking him to school at 5.30am to catch a bus to the city for a 9am start - they have breakfast on the way !) Must go as I have other comittments and can't be distracted by family history any longer today ...... regards Joy Sunny but Very dry Melbourne Vic Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <piggott-request@rootsweb.com> To: <piggott@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:02 PM Subject: PIGGOTT Digest, Vol 2, Issue 29 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: BROADSTAIRS MAN'S BRAVE ACT - F E Piggott (Joe Bissett) > 2. Re: BROADSTAIRS MAN'S BRAVE ACT - F E Piggott (Penny Ferguson) > 3. Re: BROADSTAIRS MAN'S BRAVE ACT - F E Piggott (Joe Bissett) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 06:53:22 -0500 > From: Joe Bissett <jbissett@hot-peppers.com> > Subject: Re: [PIGGOTT] BROADSTAIRS MAN'S BRAVE ACT - F E Piggott > To: piggott@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.2.20070416062120.03a506d0@hot-peppers.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hi Chris, > > Thank you so much for your interest in my Grandfather. :-) > >>You might be interested to learn that all service records for 1st >>A.I.F. Servicemen can now be viewed online, on the National Archives >>of Australia web-site at: www.naa.gov.au > > I have downloaded all 40 pages (in color). :-) I had seen the > references to this web site, but until your message spurred me on, I > had not yet visited it. > >>His Attestation Form was filled in from other sources, suggesting, >>as his occupation was recorded as Soldier, that he may have >>transferred to the A.I.F. from some other military position. > > Oh yes. This is but one of the "mysteries" in my Grandfather's > life. He served 21 years in the Royal Garrison Artillery, in such > places as India, China, Aden and several UK locations. I also hold > this Military Record. At the end of his service, his typed papers > stated that he would retire to Broadstairs, Kent, where his children > and other family members were residing. Within two weeks of January > 7, 1914, his plans changed. Penned changes show that he went to > Dover, and was next noted escorting and in charge of "350 boys" > enroute Australia. We "assume" that the boys were a part of the > Drednought program. Why he suddenly changed his plans and left his > three small children under the care of his brother is a > mystery. Although there were many PIGGOTT families in Australia by > that time, I have not found any PIGGOTT (yet) who might have > influenced his decision. With no wife, one can only assume that > Frederick might have planned to establish himself in the Melbourne > area, and then send for the children. After his untimely death, the > only Australian who I have found that took note and left a > remembrance in the Melbourne newspaper was a Mrs. O'Laughlin. > > >>I take it that one of the two girls was your mother. > > Yes, my mother was the middle child - Marjorie May PIGGOTT > (incorrectly shown as Mary on one certificate) > >>There was a letter addressed to National Mutual & Life Association, >>Collins St, Melbourne, suggesting he may have had business >>connections or had resided there. The Australian Army HQ was in >>Melbourne - perhaps he transferred to the A.I.F. from a Staff postion >>there? > >>The Regiment from which Frederick Edward PIGGOTT transferred, as you >>are undoubtedly aware, was almost certainly the Victorian 52nd, > > I have a record from June 1914 that shows Frederick as assigned to > the 52nd Regiment (Reserve), so he wasted little time after arriving > in Melbourne to resume a military career. > >> From this humble Australian, a very special & solemn greeting to >> the PIGOTT-List for this coming Anzac Day. Lest we forget. > > I am heartened by the manner in which most Australians stand tall for > their War Dead, their heritage, and their special customs and way of > life. When I was a youth here in the U.S., we were much the > same. Alas - Political Correctness has overwhelmed my country, but > you folks apparently still stand firm. I applaud you. > >>But you probably knew all of this anyway. > > When I first started to research the life of my grandfather, I paid > an excellent researcher in Australia to recover a good bit of this > information, so I do in fact have black and white copies of his > record. However, your note caused me to re-read every page as I > downloaded them. I note that among his personal effects a "birth > certificate" is listed. I hold every birth and marriage certificate > for the entire family - EXCEPT - the birth certificate for > Frederick. From the family records I know that he was born while his > father was stationed at Bury, Shingle Parish, 8th Coast Guard > Station, Suffolk, England. I have tried every first and last name > spelling that I can dream up, but I have found no record listing of > his birth. I have downloaded the great majority of all of the images > from the old 1837 On Line, and no Frederick PIGGOTT (or reasonable > variant) is to be found. Since I am here in south Texas, I am > probably at the end of my rope. > > Another hope that I have is to find newspaper articles concerning the > 52nd Regiment as it prepared for the coming war effort. My "guess" > is that the Melbourne papers would have posted many such articles, > and perhaps Frederick might be mentioned. When I finally scrape > together enough funds, I intend to hire a researcher to see what can be > found. > > Thank you once again for your effort on my behalf. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) > > Warm regards, Joe > > > Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb > I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access > otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ > I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ > Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www.LostCousins.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:28:04 +1000 > From: "Penny Ferguson" <fergcanb@grapevine.net.au> > Subject: Re: [PIGGOTT] BROADSTAIRS MAN'S BRAVE ACT - F E Piggott > To: <piggott@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E1HdQIf-0006n3-00@canyonero.dot.net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > HI Joe and Chris too > > If I can help let me know what I can look for. I am in Canberra so have > the > Archives, War Memorial and National Library with newspapers etc. If it > is > anything to do with the War Memorial or Archives it is probably best to > leave it for a bit as even the on line are overloaded at the moment. ? > Regiment papers? I was at both places today. I have also recently booked a > researcher in England who is delving into Navy records and pensions for > birth etc for my brick wall on another family etc. Would the coastguard > have come under Navy at any time to see if father was posted anywhere else > for church records? There is quite a bit I believe on the Dreadnought > scheme. Best Wishes let me know if I can help..Penny in Canberra > > -----Original Message----- > From: piggott-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:piggott-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Joe Bissett > Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 9:53 PM > To: piggott@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PIGGOTT] BROADSTAIRS MAN'S BRAVE ACT - F E Piggott > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:49:40 -0500 > From: Joe Bissett <jbissett@hot-peppers.com> > Subject: Re: [PIGGOTT] BROADSTAIRS MAN'S BRAVE ACT - F E Piggott > To: piggott@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.2.20070416091727.03f35970@hot-peppers.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hi Penny, > > Thank you so much for your kind offer. :-) > > In all honesty, over the years I have accumulated a huge amount of > records on my PIGGOTT family. Only my own grandfather continues to > have missing pieces. > > What would be helpful to me as far as information from Australia is > concerned, would be any articles from Melbourne newspapers concerning > the 52nd Regiment (especially any reference to Frederick PIGGOTT) > between May 1914 and the end of August 1914. He had a friend in > Melbourne; a Sergeant Major Solomon, of whom I know nothing. I > imagine that SM Solomon was also assigned to the 52nd Regiment. > > I would also like to find any information about the mystery "Mrs. > O'Laughlin" who posted the remembrance in the Melbourne paper. Her > name is unfortunately all that I know. Perhaps Frederick, a > "widower", had a romantic interest in her? > > In any event, if you run across anything in your searches that adds > to my knowledge of the above items, I would greatly appreciate it. > > Thanks once again, Joe > > At 07:28 AM 04/16/2007, you wrote: >>let me know if I can help. > > Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb > I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access > otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ > I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ > Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www.LostCousins.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PIGGOTT list administrator, send an email to > PIGGOTT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PIGGOTT mailing list, send an email to > PIGGOTT@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PIGGOTT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PIGGOTT Digest, Vol 2, Issue 29 > ************************************** >

Hi List, Which list members are tracking this family? Joe Copied from another source. >Pierce County WA Archives Photo Tombstone.....Piggott, Jack & Anna E. >************************************************ >Copyright. All rights reserved. >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/copyright.htm >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/wafiles.htm >************************************************ > >File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: >Mike Webb mwebb78@msn.com April 16, 2007, 4:38 pm > >Cemetery: Bethany Lutheran Cemetery >Name: Jack & Anna E. Piggott > >Date Of Photograph: April 12, 2007 >Photo can be seen at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/pierce/photos/tombstones/bethanylutheran/piggott10575gph.jpg >Image file size: 182.8 Kb > >Piggott >Jack Anna E >Oct 16, 1877 Sept 23, 1887 >June 20,1941 Apr 5, 1949 >Dad Mom > >File at: >http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wa/pierce/photos/tombstones/bethanylutheran/piggott10575gph.txt > >This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.org/wafiles/ > >File size: 1.0 Kb 1930 United States Federal Census Name: Arma E Piggott (actually Anna on the image) Home in 1930: Tacoma, Pierce, Washington Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Birthplace: Washington Relation to Head of House: Head (listed as SINGLE) Race: White Occupation: Education: Military Service: Rent/home value: Age at first marriage: Parents' birthplace: Sweden Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age Arma E Piggott 43 John Piggott 23 Harry C Piggott 18 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Anna N Piggott (image confirms "N") Home in 1920: Tacoma Ward 5, Pierce, Washington Age: 32 years Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Birthplace: Washington Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's name: John Father's Birth Place: Sweden Mother's Birth Place: Sweden Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Female Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age John Piggott 43 Anna N Piggott 32 John V Piggott 14 Alice B Piggott 12 Harry Piggott 8 1910 United States Federal Census Name: Anna A Pigott (image confirms "A") Age in 1910: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Birthplace: Washington Relation to Head of House: Wife Father's Birth Place: Sweden Mother's Birth Place: Sweden Spouse's name: John Home in 1910: Tacoma Ward 5, Pierce, Washington Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Female Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age John Pigott 35 Anna A Pigott 22 Jack Pigott 4 Allice Pigott 3 (Alice on image) Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Tacoma Ward 5, Pierce, Washington; Roll: T624_1665; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 261; Image: 133. Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www.LostCousins.com/

Hi list, I found this query on the Ancestry.com PIGOTT message board. Since we have several Irish PIGOTT researchers, I'm posting it here. Can anyone help? >John Pigott born about 1835 married Alice Gillespie about 1860 and >were living in Dublin Ireland. They had a son John born 1862. Mary >born about 1868 and Margaret 1871. I think there were more kids >still searching. Would anybody know anything about this family. Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www.LostCousins.com/

HI Joe and Chris too If I can help let me know what I can look for. I am in Canberra so have the Archives, War Memorial and National Library with newspapers etc. If it is anything to do with the War Memorial or Archives it is probably best to leave it for a bit as even the on line are overloaded at the moment. ? Regiment papers? I was at both places today. I have also recently booked a researcher in England who is delving into Navy records and pensions for birth etc for my brick wall on another family etc. Would the coastguard have come under Navy at any time to see if father was posted anywhere else for church records? There is quite a bit I believe on the Dreadnought scheme. Best Wishes let me know if I can help..Penny in Canberra -----Original Message----- From: piggott-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:piggott-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bissett Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 9:53 PM To: piggott@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PIGGOTT] BROADSTAIRS MAN'S BRAVE ACT - F E Piggott

Joe, The Regiment from which Frederick Edward PIGGOTT transferred, as you are undoubtedly aware, was almost certainly the Victorian 52nd, or Hobson's Bay, Infantry Regiment. Hobson's Bay is down Geelong way. The 5th Battalion was formed in Melbourne, largely by volunteers from that Regiment. They embarked in Melbourne on H.M.A.T. "Orvieto" on Wed 21 Oct 1914. A diary kept by another soldier on the "Orvieto" can be found at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/ryangenealogy/hottonaj.html It records that the "Orvieto" sailed at 3 p.m., after the massed crowds had broken past a pickett-line of sentries with fixed bayonets, at the end of the wharf, & streamed all over the pier to make their farewells. The "Orvieto" arrived in Albany on Mon 26 Oct, to await the assembly of some 36 Australian Troopships, with yet more from N.Z, into a major convoy. Under naval escort, the convoy set out on Sun 1 Nov 1914, & steamed to Colombo, where it arrived on Sun 15 Nov. Then to Aden, 22 Nov; Suez, 30 Nov (10.30 am, & into the Canal proper at 3.20 pm); & finally arriving at Port Said, at 7.30 am on Tue 1 Dec. >From this humble Australian, a very special & solemn greeting to the PIGOTT-List for this coming Anzac Day. Lest we forget. Chris PIGOTT.

Hi Penny, Thank you so much for your kind offer. :-) In all honesty, over the years I have accumulated a huge amount of records on my PIGGOTT family. Only my own grandfather continues to have missing pieces. What would be helpful to me as far as information from Australia is concerned, would be any articles from Melbourne newspapers concerning the 52nd Regiment (especially any reference to Frederick PIGGOTT) between May 1914 and the end of August 1914. He had a friend in Melbourne; a Sergeant Major Solomon, of whom I know nothing. I imagine that SM Solomon was also assigned to the 52nd Regiment. I would also like to find any information about the mystery "Mrs. O'Laughlin" who posted the remembrance in the Melbourne paper. Her name is unfortunately all that I know. Perhaps Frederick, a "widower", had a romantic interest in her? In any event, if you run across anything in your searches that adds to my knowledge of the above items, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks once again, Joe At 07:28 AM 04/16/2007, you wrote: >let me know if I can help. Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www.LostCousins.com/

Hi Chris, Thank you so much for your interest in my Grandfather. :-) >You might be interested to learn that all service records for 1st >A.I.F. Servicemen can now be viewed online, on the National Archives >of Australia web-site at: www.naa.gov.au I have downloaded all 40 pages (in color). :-) I had seen the references to this web site, but until your message spurred me on, I had not yet visited it. >His Attestation Form was filled in from other sources, suggesting, >as his occupation was recorded as Soldier, that he may have >transferred to the A.I.F. from some other military position. Oh yes. This is but one of the "mysteries" in my Grandfather's life. He served 21 years in the Royal Garrison Artillery, in such places as India, China, Aden and several UK locations. I also hold this Military Record. At the end of his service, his typed papers stated that he would retire to Broadstairs, Kent, where his children and other family members were residing. Within two weeks of January 7, 1914, his plans changed. Penned changes show that he went to Dover, and was next noted escorting and in charge of "350 boys" enroute Australia. We "assume" that the boys were a part of the Drednought program. Why he suddenly changed his plans and left his three small children under the care of his brother is a mystery. Although there were many PIGGOTT families in Australia by that time, I have not found any PIGGOTT (yet) who might have influenced his decision. With no wife, one can only assume that Frederick might have planned to establish himself in the Melbourne area, and then send for the children. After his untimely death, the only Australian who I have found that took note and left a remembrance in the Melbourne newspaper was a Mrs. O'Laughlin. >I take it that one of the two girls was your mother. Yes, my mother was the middle child - Marjorie May PIGGOTT (incorrectly shown as Mary on one certificate) >There was a letter addressed to National Mutual & Life Association, >Collins St, Melbourne, suggesting he may have had business >connections or had resided there. The Australian Army HQ was in >Melbourne - perhaps he transferred to the A.I.F. from a Staff postion there? >The Regiment from which Frederick Edward PIGGOTT transferred, as you >are undoubtedly aware, was almost certainly the Victorian 52nd, I have a record from June 1914 that shows Frederick as assigned to the 52nd Regiment (Reserve), so he wasted little time after arriving in Melbourne to resume a military career. > From this humble Australian, a very special & solemn greeting to > the PIGOTT-List for this coming Anzac Day. Lest we forget. I am heartened by the manner in which most Australians stand tall for their War Dead, their heritage, and their special customs and way of life. When I was a youth here in the U.S., we were much the same. Alas - Political Correctness has overwhelmed my country, but you folks apparently still stand firm. I applaud you. >But you probably knew all of this anyway. When I first started to research the life of my grandfather, I paid an excellent researcher in Australia to recover a good bit of this information, so I do in fact have black and white copies of his record. However, your note caused me to re-read every page as I downloaded them. I note that among his personal effects a "birth certificate" is listed. I hold every birth and marriage certificate for the entire family - EXCEPT - the birth certificate for Frederick. From the family records I know that he was born while his father was stationed at Bury, Shingle Parish, 8th Coast Guard Station, Suffolk, England. I have tried every first and last name spelling that I can dream up, but I have found no record listing of his birth. I have downloaded the great majority of all of the images from the old 1837 On Line, and no Frederick PIGGOTT (or reasonable variant) is to be found. Since I am here in south Texas, I am probably at the end of my rope. Another hope that I have is to find newspaper articles concerning the 52nd Regiment as it prepared for the coming war effort. My "guess" is that the Melbourne papers would have posted many such articles, and perhaps Frederick might be mentioned. When I finally scrape together enough funds, I intend to hire a researcher to see what can be found. Thank you once again for your effort on my behalf. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Warm regards, Joe Joe Bissett, PIGGOTT/CUMMISKEY List Administrator/Rootsweb I use America's Book CDs in my genealogical research to access otherwise unavailable primary source material. http://www.abcd-usa.com/ I support the Godfrey Memorial Library. http://www.godfrey.org/ Proud to be a member of LostCousins! http://www.LostCousins.com/

Joe, You might be interested to learn that all service records for 1st A.I.F. Servicemen can now be viewed online, on the National Archives of Australia web-site at: www.naa.gov.au You are well warned that demand for access is high, & service can be very, very slow. Your grandfather has a 40 page service record, which makes interesting reading. He received a Bullet Wound in the chest at Anzac Cove, & died 26 Apr 1915 on the Temporary Hospital Ship "Clan McGillivray." He was buried from her at sea between Gallipoli & Alexandria, the same day. He was No 6, Staff Sergeant Major, 5th Infantry Battalion A.I.F., Headquarters Signals - Signaller. His Attestation Form was filled in from other sources, suggesting, as his occupation was recorded as Soldier, that he may have transferred to the A.I.F. from some other military position. His "enlistment date" was recorded as 1 Sep 1914. The only movement record is as follows: C.C. Tps NOVIAN. Embarked to join M.E.F. (Gallipoli Campaign), Alexandria, 5 Apr 1915. He was recorded as unmarried. His next of kin was recorded as daughter Miss Ethel M. PIGGOTT, Dampton, Park Drive, Ramsgate, Kent. A typed original pension form, signed at Australia House, London, 14 Apr 1916, with several duplicate additions, recorded other kin: Frederick Edward PIGGOTT, 40 Osbourne Rd, Broadstairs, Kent, son. Martha Ethel PIGGOTT, same address, daughter. Marjorie Mary PIGGOTT, ditto, ditto. All three were recorded as being under the trusteeship of James Henry PIGGOTT, same address. I take it that one of the two girls was your mother. There was a letter addressed to National Mutual & Life Association, Collins St, Melbourne, suggesting he may have had business connections or had resided there. The Australian Army HQ was in Melbourne - perhaps he transferred to the A.I.F. from a Staff postion there? But you probably knew all of this anyway. Regards. Chris PIGOTT.