David - Who were James parents/grandparents? Thanks, Marianne On Sat, 6 Oct 2001 11:06:10 -0400, PIATT-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > James J And Ellen (Barney) Piatt Lowdan/Loudad > How old was Ellen Barney? If our Ellen is the one in the 1850 census she would have > been 4 or 5 years younger then James, and would have been the right age the attract a > young James. If James was 20 and Ellen 16 when married then the time would have right > in 1870 to have son George 13 (although I have his date as 10/22/1854) A year here are > there may be expanded by the date the census was taken. > > But this data raises as many question as it gives answers. Ellen's death certificate > shows her birth date as Dec 25, 1830. This would make her 4 years older then James > and the wrong age for the 1870 census, The census that most closely matches the family > as noted by Fred Piatt (my grandfather) a son for George Piatt. > > Fred didn't list any sisters of this George so then how is Sarah P in 1870 and Millie 1880. > > If the family in 1880 is that of James, he couldn't have been the father of Carrie. > It is hard for me to believe the two families living so close could be so close in names and dates. > > John and Sarah (Behee) Barney lived "on the homestead" at Belree Mill (Behee Mill?) in > Hanover, Pa. They had "several children," including John C. Barney, b. 1827." > This also seems to be the John and Sarah Barney on the > 1850 federal census of > Huntington, > Luzerne Co., Pa., p.279: > Barney, John age 52 > Barney, Sarah age 41 > Barney, Charles age 20 > Barney, Elizabeth age 17 > Barney, Ellen age 11 (1839) > Barney, Mary age 6 > Barney, John age 3 > > In 1850 in Luzerne Co, Huntington Twp, page 312, family 2102/2135 > Jonas Hoyt 29 M Farmer > Sarah Hoyt 25 F > Adelia Hoyt 2 F > Sylvivia Hoyt 1 F > James Piatt 16 M Farmer (1834) > Oliver Sharps 12 M > > On the 1870 Census > Plymouth Township > Piatt, James 36 M W Carpenter $100 PA (1834) > Ellen 30 F W Keepinghouse. PA (1840) > George E 13 M W PA (1857) > Robert R 11 M W PA (1859) > Sarah P 10 F W PA (1860) > Charles W 5 M W PA (1865) > > > On the 1880 Census > 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Ward, Plymouth, Luzerne, Pennsylvania > FHL Film 1255151 National Archives Film T9-1151 Page 424C > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > M. C Loudan Self M M W 29 PA > Ellen Loudan Wife F M W 38 PA (1842)* > Millie Pyatt Dau F M W 18 PA (1862) > Chas Pyatt Son M S W 14 PA (1866) > Ulyssis Pyatt Son M S W 10 PA (1870)(I had 1872) > Carrie Pyatt Dau F S W 1 PA (1879) ** > > > * After James died. She may have taken a few years off of her age > (and her children's) and married a "younger" man! Shocking for the times. > > **If James died in 1972 he couldn't have been the father > > Please Help > > David C. Piatt > Shelby Twp. Mich. > > > ==== PIATT Mailing List ==== > The PIATT GenConnect Board is our place to post records > such as wills, bios, deeds, and Bible records. Find it at > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/p/i/PIATT/ > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/