To Marianne, John and Laverne and others who are interested in Benjamin F. Piatt. I have Benjamin's death listed as Shelby Co. from several sources but the one that I felt confirmed his death to be in Shelby Co. was the 1880 census of Shelby Co., Hendricks Twp. Page 32, Enumeration Dist 206. His widow Ann Piatt was listed on this page as head of household #279. She is 65. Living with her is her son Simeon age 31, her daughter-in-law, Clara E. age 25. Ann is keeping house but under the column listed as disabled, the census taker listed Gen Dibt with a notation above that I didn't understand. I took this to be generally disabled, her son is a farmer and her daughter-in-law is listed as "Housework". Under birth records Ann is NJ in 3 columns, Simeon is IN, VA & NJ, his wife is MO, IN, IN. Benjamin lived in Hendricks Twp. My grgrandmother, Harriet McCrea and her family lived there also. Wm Carter Piatt attended Rush Med. School in Chicago with Harriet's brother Samuel. One Xmas Sam took him to meet Harriet whom he married a year later. Wm Carter Piatt left Shelby Co for KS after his father's death. The Warren Packer records and research on film, LDS, states Benjamin died in Shelby Co. Mary Ensley Weinantz who compiled "The John Carter Family In America Through Nine Generations" lists the following as her sources "History of Shelby Co., IN by Brant & Fuller plus marriage records from both counties. M. Weinantz lived in Edinburgh, IN. I felt the census confirmed the Packer & Weinantz record. In house 278 on the census lives another son of Benjamin, Estelle Leonard, his wife Laura & daughter Alva. To me Ann is still living in her home in 1880. Benjamin died in 1875. This is not primary evidence but I feel there is enough evidence from three records plus family history of Daisy Warner and her mother Harriet. Marienne said something about not having the descendants of Benjamin. Am not sure which Benjamin but for the record here are Benjamin F. Piatt's children. Elizabeth A. b. 10 Apr 1834, d. 9 Sep 1835, bur. Carter Cemetery John W. b. 4 Feb 1836, d. 12 Feb 1836, bur. Carter Cemetery Rebecca J. b. 17 Mar 1837, d. 1 Dec 1847, bur. Carter Cemetery. I have tombstone pictures from Lynn White. (Laverne was on this trip) All three b. Shelby Co. William Carter b. 21 Feb 1839 Columbus, IN, Bartholomew Co., d. 2 Oct 1914 Topeka, KS bur. Ellsworth, KS Nathan S. b. 5 May 1841, Columbus Jct., Bartholomew Co., d. 22 Jul 1922 bur. Glenwood, IA Mary E. 1844, IN d. 1880 Simeon Augustus b. 1849, Johnson Co., IN d. 1929, Canada Martha S. 18 Mar 1851, Shelby Co., d. 22 Apr 1881 Estell Leonard b. Jan 1852 or 1853, d. 7 May 1915 Lafayette b. 28 Sep 1855, d. 30 Apr 1857 bur. Carter Cem. Simeon, the son who was living with Ann , married Clara Hackney 8 Apr 1880 and shows up on that census in Ann's household. Simeon must have been living with his mother and married in the census year. I'm sure I have more material as to where some of the above children are buried but I've spent the last few years researching the McCreas as I had reached a dead end on the Piatt line. There must be wills in Nicholas Co or Hampshire Co which might help in sorting out some of the confusion. In the Draper Collection there is a Wm Piatt and Mary Brady writing to him about Mary's father. I sent this material to Deb Hascall and possibly Laverne has it. Am not sure but they may be Augusta Co. also. Sorry I can't be of more help. Dee