MARIANNE -- (1) Shelby Co. IN adjoins Bartholomew Co. One may be the death place of Benjamin F. Piatt/Pyatt and the other the burial location. Or, the Bartholomew Co. reference might be to the burial of the other Benjamin, who died during the Civil War and was buried in Bartholomew Co. I presume my source was the Piatt Family Newsletter. Dee Mitchell also reports a Shelby Co. deathplace in her PIATT Mailing List email of Fri, 7 Jan 2000 ([PIATT] Re: PIATT-D Digest V00 #1). She might know what the original source Shelby Co. source was. (2) For more on Benjamin Piatt who married Rachel McWilliams, see the following previous emails from the PIATT Mailing List. There is also more about their family in old issues of the Piatt Family Newsletter (PFN). > [PIATT] Benjamin Peatt/Piatt and Rachael McWms / Mon, 31 Jan 2000 > [PIATT] Re: PIATT-D Digest V00 #14 / Mon, 31 Jan 2000 > [PIATT] (Too?) Many Benjamins / Thu, 10 Feb 2000 (4) For Benjamin's Civil War information see the following Web page: http://165.138.44.13/civilwar/067notes.htm (5) For more on Rachel McWilliams see Alley Blackford's summary on the McWilliams Research Directory & Links: http://members.aol.com/mcwmshist/page4.htm (6) Following are my notes on this Benjamin: BENJAMIN PEATT/PIATT/PYATT Civil War musician, US Army born 1807 VA died 1863 St. Louis MO buried Bartholomew IN marrried 1827 Augusta VA = Rachel McWilliams (b1805 VA, died 1900 IN) (daughter of John McWilliams and Margaret Fisher) (Civil War widow, 1890 Vet census St. Louis MO) 1830 census Augusta VA 1830,31 tax Augusta VA - "Benjamin (of James)" 1833-7 Delaware OH 1840 census Marion IN 1850-60 census Bartholomew IN PFN 3:39,70 PFN 4:21,92 PFN 6:72,74,109 At 01:17 PM 12/5/01 -0800, you wrote: >Dear John, > I have Benjamin F Piatt as dying in Bartholomew Co where you have Shelby >Co. Do you know which is correct? Also, on the other Benjamin whose father >was James Piatt: I have no information on that line - other than one >descendant and a three line family generation list (James, Benjamin, >Clarissa). Could you provide more please? Thanks, Marianne > >On Tue, 04 Dec 2001 19:02:49 -0800, PIATT-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > HI, MARIANNE -- > > > > See the extract below (from another email) for my reasoning about > > Benjamin F. and William Peatt/Piatt/Pyatt. Benjamin was presumably > > the male under 10 in William Peatt's household on the 1810 census of > > Hampshire County, VA, page 24. > > > > -- JOHN > > > > At 01:52 PM 12/4/01 -0800, you wrote: > > >John, > > > Do you still have the records which you referenced (tax lists, etc.) > > >pulled - so that you could give us the exact abstracts by year with >original > > >spelling, etc? Thanks, Marianne > > > > At 12:35 PM 12/4/01 -0800, you wrote: > > >This may be one of 4-5 emails as I can only deal with so much at one >time. > > >ha ha. I have Benjamin F Pyatt with parents unknown: > > >http://www.angelfire.com/ar/pyeatt/BFP1809.html > > >What is the source/proof for his father being William Piatt/Peepyat of > > >Hampshire County, Virginia? Thanks, Marianne > > > > > > >The only evidence so far that identifies William Piatt as the father > > >of Benjamin F. Piatt (born ca 1808) is found in the Augusta County, > > >VA, personal property tax lists for 1830 and 1831. There are two > > >Benjamins listed: "Benjamin Pyatt (of William)" is distinguished from > > >"Benjamin Pyatt (of James)." The first Benjamin must have been the > > >son of William Peepyat/Peatt/Piatt, who was the only William in the > > >vicinity old enough to be this Benjamin's father. The second Benjamin > > >(born ca 1807 in Rockbridge VA, died 1863 St. Louis MO) was the son of > > >James Peatt and Mary Donaghoe, who were married in 1805 in Rockbridge > > >County, VA. The Piatt extracts from these tax lists were published in > > >the Piatt Family Newsletter, vol. 5, page 103-105. It might be > > >worthwhile to examine again the original records if you can get them > > >on microfilm. > > > > > >It is hard to disentangle these two Benjamins: they were both about > > >the same age, they both lived in Augusta County, VA, and later they > > >both lived concurrently in Bartholomew County, Indiana. > > > > > >Below is a summary of what I know about your Benjamin, just in case > > >there is a tidbit you don't have. The last 5 lines are references > > >to information about this Benjamin in the Piatt Family Newsletter, > > >which I suspect you have already seen. > > > > > >BENJAMIN F. PIATT (son of William) > > >Farmer > > >b ca 1808 Hampshire(?) VA > > >d1875 Shelby IN > > >m1833 Bartholomew IN > > >= Ann Carter > > > (she b1814 Gloucester NJ, > > > d1881 Bartholomew IN) > > >1830,1831 tax Augusta VA > > > -- "Benjamin (of William)" > > >1840 census Bartholomew IN > > >1850 census Johnson IN > > >1860 census Bartholomew IN > > >PFN 3:66,69,70 > > >PFN 4:92,116 > > >PFN 5:103-108 > > >PFN 6:72 > > >PFN 8:74 > > > > > > > > > > > >-- John F. Keilch > > > Berkeley, California > >

Thanks to John Keilch for posting the Sims reference to William Peepyatt. Not only do we have a more information now but also a new spelling! A little further circumstantial information to suggest that Benjamin Piatt who married Ann Carter was the son of William Piatt (who married Mary Smith second) comes from a manuscript written by Benjamin's granddaughter Daisy Piatt Warner and published in the Piatt Family Newsletter 8:72: "What I know about our ancestors. I do not know the year Grandpa Piatt came out from Virginia to Ind. with only his clothes and an ax. He left home at 16 years because of a stepmother. He had a younger bother and an older sister that married a well to do Englishman and was disowned..." That Benjamin had a stepmother seems to be supported by the 1810 census which could be William Piatt and his first wife and children and the later census which could be William Piatt and his second wife Mary Smith, Benjamin's stepmother, and various children. Further The West Virginia Heritage Encyclopedia, edited by Jim Comstock, Vol 22, pp 4848-4851 gives an account of a John C Ward, "an early settler of what became Nicholas County, [who] was born in England. He came to America in the early 1820's...[first to Augusta Co Va, then Greenbrier Co VA, and in 1840 to Craigsville, Nicholas Co VA]...[he] married Mary Elizabeth Peyatt, Peatt, Pyatt or Piatt of Virginia around 1826, whose parents came from New Jersey." It is possible that this Mary was Benjamin's sister and William's daughter, indicating that William came from New Jersey. Again, this is just more circumstantial evidence which needs hard evidence to back it up. As to the burials of Benjamin and Ann, PFN states that they are buried in Mt Pleasant Cemetery in Shelby Co IN with Benjamin dying first in Shelby Co and Ann dying later in Bartholomew Co IN. It is conceivable that after Benjamin's death Ann lived with a child in or near Columbus in Bartholomew Co but was buried with her husband in Shelby Co. The town Edinburg is in Shelby Co but on the Bartholomew Co line. Johnson Co IN borders both of these counties near Edinburg and Benjamin and Ann were there in Blue River Township in 1850. In this area a move across the road could constitute a move to a different county. I was able to research in Bartholomew Co in 1988 and in checking the notes taken then I find that the four children of Benjamin and Ann Carter Piatt who did not live to maturity were buried in the Carter Chapel in Section 11 on Lowell Station Road on the northwest edge (at the time) of Columbus. These children are: Piatt, Elizabeth R d 9 Sep 1835 1y 4m 22d Piatt, John W d 12 Feb 1836 8d Lafayette b 28 Sep 1855 d 30 Apr 1857 Rebecah J d 1 Dec 1847 10y 8m 14d Also in the Carter Chapel were Ann Carter's parents: Carter, Elizabeth w/o Nathan d 30 Mar 1847 57y 4m 11d Carter, Nathan d 26 Mar 1847 77y 11m 28d It would be interesting to know if the the last two died of an epidemic. The Carter Chapel and cemetery are on land owned by Nathan Carter and presumably given or sold to the church. There is also a mention in the records of the "Carter Settlement." Benjamin and Ann Carter Piatt are not buried in this cemetery as evidenced by no stones for them and their names not appearing in the transcription of burials there. So we would have to accept that the Shelby Co information is correct unless proved otherwise. To confuse matters a bit further, Lynn White and I went back to Bartholomew Co during a conference in a later year and also found the cemetery where the OTHER Benjamin Pyatt and wife Rachel McWilliams are buried. It is west of Columbus in Section 28 and listed as Mt Pleasant Cemetery (OF COURSE!!) but is also known as the Christian Union Chapel Cemetery. An amusing note of the trip that Lynn and I took to Bartholomew Co-- While researching in the wonderful courthouse which has a paid genealogist on staff we found record that the Sheriff had tried to serve a warrant on one Benjamin Piatt who claimed that the Benjamin Piatt named in the warrant was not he. The Sheriff then sought out the other Benjamin Piatt who made the same claim. The Sheriff returned the warrant undelivered. Ah, the advantage of having the same name. ***** Personal note: I know I owe some of the listers e-mail responses and I've been lax in posting to the surname boards. I beg for a little more time, please. I will be away for the computer for a least a week beginning Dec 7 but will try to get back at it when I return. Marianne, if you will e-mail me privately with a mailing address where I can send you some hard copies of the Indiana information I will do so when I return. You might want to add the info to your website. And keep up the good work. -- Laverne Ingram Piatt Ontario, OH