Posted on: PIATT Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/p/i/PIATT/queries/10016 Surname: Piatt ------------------------- Dear Laverne Ingram Piatt - I received the information re: Benjamin Piatt and Allen Piatt, plus much more, from you via the Piatt Digest, #24. I can't thank you enough, as this opens a whole new world for me!! In your text you mentioned that you had nothing more on Nettie M. (Benjamin Franklin Piatt's wife, and my maternal grandmother), since you did not have her maiden name. Her name was Nettie M. Outhier and her parents were: Amile Outhier, b: France, and Marion Morrison, b: Scotland. I would appreciate any information you may have on Nettie! All I know is that she was born somewhere in Iowa on April 6, 1879 and died in Fresno, CA on June 1, 1956. Her only child was my mother, Helen Marguerite Piatt Harriman. Also - do you have a place of birth (city/county) in Iowa for Benjamin Franklin Piatt and Nettie M. Outhier??? Once again - THANK YOU very much!! You don't know how much I appreciate this information!! Jim Harriman

I enjoy the Pyatt list even though my Pyatt line isn't that long. I noted that Barbara Maybury wrote that I had submitted a list of Pyatt Martin's children to Lou Mohler for one of her books. Indeed I did but at that time, that list wasn't proved. I later found a land record in Marion County, OH that did list all of Pyatt's children including the spouses of some of them. If memory is correct, there were a couple of differences. I have just moved and all my genealogy records are still in boxes so I don't have immediate access to them but if anyone is interested I will eventually be able to access the exact info to find those land records; contact me at <marikeef@aol.com> if interested. My Pyatt lineage is as follows: Rene Pyatt `Jacob Pyatt & Mary Hull ``Dinah Pyatt and Jonathan Martin ```Jacob Martin & Elizabeth Dunham ````Pyatt Martin & Anna Hoagland `````Marietta Martin & John Nickelson ``````Sarah Jane Nickelson & Robert Thomas Williams ```````Warren Williams & Clara Hall ````````Me---Marion Clara Williams Keefer (This is from memory so hope it's all correct) Thanks to Caral Bennett for including the wonderful story about Anna Hoagland riding on horseback back to NJ after Pyatt died supposedly to settle up Pyatt's affairs (in the early 1800's yet!). I grew up on that story and "got into" genealogy to find out more about just that. I've found file cabinets full of other stuff but have not found out anything else of significance about that trip. Keep hoping someone else will find something somewhere. Marion Keefer

For Jim Harriman; I posted the following in response to your query on genconnect: ***** ALLEN PIATT (s/o JACOB PIATT and JANE THOMPSON) b 17 Nov 1826, Butler co OH d 17 Jan 1899, Carl Twp, Adams Co IA, but Mt Zion Cem m 27 Nov 1862, ?Rock Island Co? IL to ELIZABETH A ROGERS (d/o ELIJAH ROGERS & NANCY BEACH) b 27 Apr 1841, Ripley Co IN d 24 Oct 1919, Carl Twp, Adams Co IL, bur Mt Zion Cem children: l. HOMER, b c1864, IL; lived Omaha NE 2. ELLA, b c1866, IL; m EUGENE DUDLEY of Creston IA; had ALLEN DUDLEY, b Feb 1887, IA 3. WILMUTH, b 10 Sep 1868, IA; d 27 Aug 1940, Adams Co IA; but Mt Zion Cem, never married 4. BENJAMIN FRANKLIN "FRANK," b c 1872, IA; m Nettie M ____; lived in Fresno CA, 1910 5. RACHEL, b Dec 1880, IA Allen and Elizabeth Rogers Piatt are listed in the 1880 census of Adams Co IA, Carl Twp. The 1900 census for the same area lists Elizabeth Piatt as head of household. The 1910 census for Fresno, Fresno Co CA, lists Benjamin F, Nettie M and daughter Helen M Piatt. I don't have any further information on the siblings of this Benjamin Franklin Piatt other than listed above. Also, since I did not have a maiden name for Nettie, I have nothing on her parents. A lengthy biography of Allen Piatt was printed in the BIOGRAPHICAL HISTORY OF MONTGOMERY AND ADAMS COUNTIES [IA], Lewis Publishing Co (1892), page 429-30. It states that Jacob Piatt was a native of Penn Valley Pa and that Jane Thompson was a native of the Juniata Valley of Pennsylvania. Also mentioned is "the late Hon Joseph McDonald, of Indiana was a first cousin of Allen Piatt." Allen's parents lived in Butler Co OH until 1842 when they moved to Henry Co Il, settling six miles south of Cambridge where they "passed the rest of their lives." Elijah Rogers was a native of Indiana and Nancy Beach of Kentucky and a daughter of James Beach. The lineage for this Benjamin Franklin Piatt from the immigrant would be thus: .Rene Piatt and Elizabeth Sheffield ..Jacob Piatt and Mary Hull ...John Piatt and Frances Van Vliet, the widow Wyckoff ....Abraham Piatt and Annabell Andrew .....Jacob Piatt and Jane Thompson ......Allen Piatt and Elizabeth Rogers .......Benjamin Franklin Piatt and Nellie Outhier Source: Piatt Family Newsletter, Volume 7, 1992. Volume 7 and 8 of PFN follow the generations descended through John Piatt and Frances Van Vliet Wyckoff Piatt. ***** It seems that I also posted information concerning Jacob Piatt and Jane Thompson to one of the message boards so you might poke around on genconnect and the other one or two Piatt boards. Maybe Christine can post to the list as to which these boards are. I have been having trouble accessing myfamily.com lately. My browser flips to an adserver address and a banner for Fingerhut and then goes dormant. It doesn't lock up but it won't go anywhere. Then I have to restart my browser. My daughter's computer has no trouble. Advice would be appreciated on this. -- Laverne Ingram Piatt Ontario, OH

Posted on: PIATT Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/p/i/PIATT/queries/10015 Surname: ------------------------- ALLEN PIATT (s/o JACOB PIATT and JANE THOMPSON) b 17 Nov 1826, Butler co OH d 17 Jan 1899, Carl Twp, Adams Co IA, but Mt Zion Cem m 27 Nov 1862, ?Rock Island Co? IL to ELIZABETH A ROGERS (d/o ELIJAH ROGERS & NANCY BEACH) b 27 Apr 1841, Ripley Co IN d 24 Oct 1919, Carl Twp, Adams Co IL, bur Mt Zion Cem children: l. HOMER, b c1864, IL; lived Omaha NE 2. ELLA, b c1866, IL; m EUGENE DUDLEY of Creston IA; had ALLEN DUDLEY, b Feb 1887, IA 3. WILMUTH, b 10 Sep 1868, IA; d 27 Aug 1940, Adams Co IA; but Mt Zion Cem, never married 4. BENJAMIN FRANKLIN "FRANK," b c 1872, IA; m Nettie M ____; lived in Fresno CA, 1910 5. RACHEL, b Dec 1880, IA Allen and Elizabeth Rogers Piatt are listed in the 1880 census of Adams Co IA, Carl Twp. The 1900 census for the same area lists Elizabeth Piatt as head of household. The 1910 census for Fresno, Fresno Co CA, lists Benjamin F, Nettie M and daughter Helen M Piatt. I don't have any further information on the siblings of this Benjamin Franklin Piatt other than listed above. Also, since I did not have a maiden name for Nettie, I have nothing on her parents. A lengthy biography of Allen Piatt was printed in the BIOGRAPHICAL HISTORY OF MONTGOMERY AND ADAMS COUNTIES [IA], Lewis Publishing Co (1892), page 429-30. It states that Jacob Piatt was a native of Penn Valley Pa and that Jane Thompson was a native of the Juniata Valley of Pennsylvania. Also mentioned is "the late Hon Joseph McDonald, of Indiana was a first cousin of Allen Piatt." Allen's parents lived in Butler Co OH until 1842 when they moved to Henry Co Il, settling six miles south of Cambridge where they "passed the rest of their lives." Elijah Rogers was a native of Indiana and Nancy Beach of Kentucky and a daughter of James Beach. The lineage for this Benjamin Franklin Piatt from the immigrant would be thus: / .Rene Piatt and Elizabeth Sheffield/ ..Jacob Piatt and Mary Hull/ ...John Piatt and Frances Van Vliet, the widow Wyckoff/ ....Abraham Piatt and Annabell Andrew/ .....Jacob Piatt and Jane Thompson/ ......Allen Piatt and Elizabeth Rogers/ .......Benjamin Franklin Piatt and Nellie Outhier Source: Piatt Family Newsletter, Volume 7, 1992. Volume 7 and 8 of PFN follow the generations descended through John Piatt and Frances Van Vliet Wyckoff Piatt.

I am not hunting for ancestors, I want descendants. My GGrandfather's sister Serena Young married John Harrell Pyeatt. both families were from Washington county Arkansas, John's parents were William Stevenson Pyeatt and Mary A Johnson (also of my line) so their children would be twice related to me. This couple moved to Custer county Oklahoma and had children Fredrick (who died in Los Angeles in 1967) Mary, Della, Robert, Lemuel (who had a daughter named Bettie) and Nora Bell. These children wre born between 1887 and 1896. Serrena must have died shortly after 1896; John H remarried to Livvie someone. Would really like to find someone descended from this line as were are trying to find all Young descendants possible. Glenna

i do not type wll, i do not spell well, ido not correct my mistakes. i hav e a copy of "the martin family of america" compiled by louise martin mohler, the 1987 revised copy. ther might be a more up to date version. entry 2658pyatt martin 1775-1828 m anna hoagland d/ojames and martha hooey. anna is probably the sister of aaron hoagland #2686.......there is then a little info aabout the hoagland family and a list of the offspringsubmitted by a mrs marion w keefer of or. if u would care to send me your address i will copy all relevant material for and send it snai mail barbara mayor maybury

Posted on: PIATT Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/p/i/PIATT/queries/10014 Surname: Piatt ------------------------- I am new to the list and am requesting information for the first time. 1. I would like the birth place in Iowa of my maternal grandparents: **Benjamin Franklin Piatt, b: March 17, 1872, some- where in Iowa, d: Nov. 19, 1943 in Fresno, CA. **Nettie M. Outhier, b: April 6, 1879, somewhere in Iowa, d: June 1, 1958 in Fresno, CA. 2. I would like to learn the marriage date and location of Benjamin Franklin Piatt and Nettie M. Outhier. They were most likely married somewhere in Iowa and I need the county and town, as well as the date. 3. Do Benjamin Piatt and Nettie Outhier have brothers or sisters? 4. I would like to learn any information about Allen Piatt (father of Benjamin Piatt). I do not have any information about him, other than he was married to Elizabeth Rogers. I would like any information regarding Elizabeth, also. I do not know how long she lived in Iowa, but was obviously there when she gave birth to Benjamin Piatt in 1872. 5. I need information about Nettie Outhier Piatt's parents: Amile Outhier, b: France, and Marion Morrison, b: Scotland. Marion obviously lived in Iowa at the time she gave birth to Nettie in 1879. 6. Benjamin Franklin Piatt and Nettie M. Outhier Piatt had one child: Helen Marguerite Piatt, who was my mother. She was born and died in Fresno, CA. She died giving birth to me. I never met her parents (my grandparents). I would sincerely appreciate any help you can give me regarding the above information. Thank you, Jim Harriman

Greetings, All, Taking a longshot, and getting away from PIAT/ PYATT as a surname, my 4th great grandpa was Pyatt MARTIN, named after his grandmother, Dinah PYATT/ Jacob/ Rene. In your "searches," if you ever find mention of this Pyatt, I'd be MOST happy to hear. Pyatt MARTIN Born prob. 8 Oct, near Piscataway, Middlesex Co NJ Died 22 Jul 1828, Marion Co OH, bur Pleasant-Liberty Cem, ae 53 Married circa 1798/1800, prob in OH or NJ to: Anna HOAGLAND (HOAG??), said to be d/o James & Martha (HOOEY) Born circa 1775-80, prob NJ Died circa 1843, prob Pleasant twp, Marion Co OH Pyatt moved from NJ to Warren twp., Jefferson Co OH, with his parents, Jacob & Elizabeth (DUNHAM) MARTIN, prob. during the early 1790s. No known military service. A family story says that after Pyatt's death, his wife Anna and another woman, both with a child on their laps, traveled by horseback to NJ to settle up some of Pyatt's affairs there. I'm curious as to what "affairs" might have remained in NJ. Primary proof seems difficult to find, with the exception of a few Census schedules, and Pyatt's tombstone. Will be especially interested in sources of any data found. Best wishes to all, Caral

No, I didn't know this. Thanks Elise!

You all probably already know this, but I just discovered that I can identify obscure locations on the net. www.topozone.com Hope this will help someone. Elise Jourdan

My leaning would be toward William Piatt (http://www.angelfire.com/ar/pyeatt/WmVA.html). If you'll note, three of his known children born 1813-1824 in Ohio ended up Missouri with stop-overs in Illinois or Indiana. I would start looking for records on William, especially a will or probate. Marianne On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:45:03 EST, PIATT-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > I would like to add my husbands line to your Pyatt listing. > David Pyatt (Piatt) b@1815 Ohio > > > > > Elizabeth Sackett Pyatt b @ 1819 KY > William Pyatt b@ 1840 IND > > Susannah Pyatt b @ 1839 IND > Samuel > Pyatt b @ 1837 IND > Rachel Pyatt b @ 1842/44 IND or > ILL > Mary Pyatt b @ 1846 ILL > > David C. Pyatt b @ 1848 ILL > Elizabeth Pyatt > b @ 1855 ILL or MO > Malinda Pyatt b @ > 1867 MO > > > In the 1850 census this family lived in Jasper Co. Ill. > IN the 1860 census they lived in Sullivan co. MO > David Pyatt children scattered. Some stayed in MO. Samuel and > Malinda moved to Oklahoma. Malinda married a Brown. > Elizabeth married David Calvin Warren who was my husbands GreatGrandfather. > They also moved to Oklahoma. > > I have searched this family for years and still haven't proved the parents of > David Pyatt the father. If anyone has any information on them I sure would > like to hear from you. The John Pyatt with the wife Rebecca, unknown last > name has always beckoned me. Several of you have mentioned them. Thanks ! > Evelyn > > > ==== PIATT Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the PIATT mailing list from Rootsweb! Serving > PIATT, PYATT, PYOTT, PIAT, PYEATTE, PIAT, PYAT, PIET, > and all variations you can think of! > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

Laverne, You wanted to say thank you to everyone for joining the mailing list. But I would like to say thank you for the time you have spent helping myself and others, I have learned more about the Piatt family from the good people in the list then any other source. You and Ed are in my prayers and best wishes for you Ed and your mother. David C. Piatt

Hi! Here is my Piatt line. I descend from William and Hannah's son, William A. Piatt. I am trying to determine who the parents of the first William were. Any ideas?? This family originated in New Jersey, moved on to Ohio, then to Indiana and Michigan. Descendants of William A. Piatt, Sr. William A. Piatt, Sr. b: May 19, 1792 in Hackettstown, Warren County, New Jersey d: November 02, 1859 in Lima, LaGrange County, Indiana +Hannah Tindall b: January 18, 1800 in New Jersey d: November 29, 1852 in LaGrange County, Indiana Children: Joseph Tindall Piatt b: January 24, 1820 in Warren County, New Jersey d: January 28, 1845 in Holmes County, Ohio William A. Piatt, Jr. b: January 05, 1822 in Warren County, New Jersey d: April 18, 1882 in Bronson, Branch County, Michigan +Margaret Forbes Wallace b: November 08, 1827 in Ohio Mary Ann Piatt b: November 06, 1824 in Warren County, New Jersey d: April 12, 1871 in Branch County, Michigan Nathaniel Piatt b: May 27, 1826 in Hackettstown, Warren County, New Jersey d: June 06, 1908 in Bethel Twp., Branch County, Michigan +Nancy Ritter b: January 28, 1827 in Mount Eaton, Wayne County, Ohio d: September 29, 1875 in Bethel Twp. Branch County, Michigan *2nd Wife of Nathaniel Piatt: +Margaret Wilson d: May 22, 1904 in Bethel Twp. Branch County, Michigan Eliza Bray Piatt b: July 16, 1828 in Warren County, New Jersey d: January 17, 1898 in Branch County, Michigan +George Gehring b: 1832 in Baden, Germany James Tindall Piatt b: July 26, 1830 in Columbia County, Pennsylvania d: March 15, 1904 in Broomfield Twp., Isabella County, Michigan +Elizabeth Burnside b: December 17, 1839 in Scott County, Iowa d: July 20, 1922 in Holton, Muskegon County, Michigan Euphemia Johnston Piatt b: January 05, 1835 in Columbia County, Pennsylvania +Stephen Taylor Hannah Mariah Piatt b: July 09, 1837 in Wayne County, Ohio d: February 06, 1860 in LaGrange County, Indiana Isaiah Piatt b: April 04, 1840 in Salt Creek Twp., Holmes County, Ohio d: August 10, 1891 in LaGrange, LaGrange County, Indiana +Mary Parry b: May 24, 1843 in Tintern, Monmouthshire, England d: 1926 in LaGrange, LaGrange County, Indiana

I believe Canton Ohio is in Stark County. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anita Acosta <alacosta@iwvisp.com> To: <PIATT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:09 AM Subject: [PIATT] census ? PIATT look-up? > Hi list....Is there anyone on the list that has an index or census info on > the year 1830? for Ohio? > > Or marriage records of Indiana? Elizabeth hannah PIATT, was married to > Issac ARMFIELD, Dec. 24, 1851 in Indiana ( I have hamilton Co, the same as > when she was born in Hamilton Co, Ohio) could this be a mistake? > Maybe her marriage record may list her parents? > > Please look-up for me to see if we can find where my Elizabeth Piatt > belongs? She may be listed by just Hannah, as she was called. I have > searched for her for years and then one day a ARMFIELD distant cousin told > me she never used Elizabeth, she went by Hannah,but that was her first name. > > My Elizabeth Hannah PIATT was born, (I have Canton, I don't know where I > got the town name), in Hamilton Co. Ohio.The year 1828, July 31. the county > and state are correct. > Her parents were ? Moses PIATT and Jane SMITH. Could the SMITH mentioned in > another e-mail be related? Sisters of the same family marrying brothers? > > One of my distant cousin said she thought she remembered Eliz. parents had > come from W Vir.? > > Looking on the web page, that listed all the Piatt's by date leads me to > believe that my side belongs to one of those Piatts listed in Hamilton Co. > Ohio.... OH, if I could just find the connecting link! > I KNOW one of these days someone will come along and list the connection. > I hope one of you can help me solve this puzzle. Thanks for your help! > > > ==== PIATT Mailing List ==== > Let's all remember to play nicely, respect others, and > help our fellows...and that goes for more than just > this mailing list... > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Laverne, This Ed Pyeatt is recovering from two near-gone heart attacks. You have my prayers and best wishes for you and Ed. This, too, shall pass. . . Ed

Many of us call Washington, D.C. Washington City. I think you're right on the button here. Ed

Hello, list. It's fabulous to find so many Piatt messages in my inbox. Some are personal, some from the list. I will answer them soon. Also, I will post information about the Piatt Researchers Conference to the list soon, this weekend I hope. I hope all of you will consider joining us this year. Then we can rent out the whole college! We have a great location close to New Jersey. I prepared a post concerning "Jacob of Pennsylvania" last Tuesday but didn't get it sent to the list. It will go out with this bunch, but if your browser lists messages chronologically this message will appear back with Tuesday's messages. Pardon the personal message here but it will explain my sporadic time at the computer. My husband, Ed, had a mild heart attack last Saturday night. Being a great multi-tasker that some of you know he is he just worked this in with his other activities. He stayed in Mansfield hospital until Tuesday and I took him to Grant in Columbus Wednesday where he had catheterization, angioplasty, and an insertion of a stent in the left anterior descending artery to correct the 90% blockage. I brought him home yesterday and he is feeling great. In between Ed's hospital stays my mother's "bad cold" got a lot worse and I took her to the ER last Tuesday night. (That's why I forgot to send the Jacob posting.) She is still a patient but is much better, receiving treatment for pneumonia. I would expect her to be released in another couple of days or so. -- Laverne Ingram Piatt Ontario, OH

Manuscripts are like census records and death certificates, etc.: The validity of the information depends entirely on the accuracy of what the person knew who gave the information. There is an excellent example of erroneous legal records in my own family. My great-grandmother gave the information for my great-grandfather's death cerificate in 1915. The death cetrificate which is on file in the State of Kentucky states his father was named David. There was never a David in the family. Many other records of Kentucky and Missouri prove his father was Christopher. It is not uncommon for oral family history to be inaccurate. I have had people tell me they know something is a fact because it was written in the Bible. The question is who wrote it and when. If the Bible was printed in 1915 and the information written in it is about people in the 1800s, one wonders where did they get their information. There could be innocent reasons why a child would be left out of a family history. One possibility could be that when he was tiny, the mother was not well and a childless relative took the child to raise. This happened sometimes in large families and since the child did not grow up with siblings, he/she was more or less forgotten. Don't give up! Elise

I would like to add my husbands line to your Pyatt listing. David Pyatt (Piatt) b@1815 Ohio Elizabeth Sackett Pyatt b @ 1819 KY William Pyatt b@ 1840 IND Susannah Pyatt b @ 1839 IND Samuel Pyatt b @ 1837 IND Rachel Pyatt b @ 1842/44 IND or ILL Mary Pyatt b @ 1846 ILL David C. Pyatt b @ 1848 ILL Elizabeth Pyatt b @ 1855 ILL or MO Malinda Pyatt b @ 1867 MO In the 1850 census this family lived in Jasper Co. Ill. IN the 1860 census they lived in Sullivan co. MO David Pyatt children scattered. Some stayed in MO. Samuel and Malinda moved to Oklahoma. Malinda married a Brown. Elizabeth married David Calvin Warren who was my husbands GreatGrandfather. They also moved to Oklahoma. I have searched this family for years and still haven't proved the parents of David Pyatt the father. If anyone has any information on them I sure would like to hear from you. The John Pyatt with the wife Rebecca, unknown last name has always beckoned me. Several of you have mentioned them. Thanks ! Evelyn