Thanks Holly, for the RINK mortality schedules, and you're right that there isn't one for 1890. I have one ancestor who died in late 1859 in Philly. Philly didn't start the death registrations until 1860, so there was no death cert for him. However, he was located in the mortality schedule which provided all the same info that would have been on the death cert. Another, though she died when there were death certs, I've been unable to find a death cert for, but she was found in the mortality schedules, so I now have her date of death, age at death, cause, etc. Not all states have these, but PA does. You'll find these in the census listings on Ancestry. ColumbusGuy <plugnplaycmh@yahoo.com> wrote: That's a new term to me. What are mortality schedules? And what are their benefits to genealogy? Thanks Rich Holly Timm wrote: I don't believe there are any surviving mortality schedules for 1890 but here are the other two --- Holly Timm --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

Actually, there *are* some death certificates prior to 1860,at the City Archives. When looking for what is usually referred to as the "cemetery returns" (from 1803-1860), I stumbled on another collection of filmed cemetery returns for this period. This second group--- and I don't know what it's official name is since it isn't even on the CA's crib sheet--- is just like the cemetery returns for post 1860.. organized by year, month, week (I think), cemetery, with a summary sheet of the burials followed by the death certificates for those burials. It's not indexed anywhere that I know of, so the use I've made out of it has been when I knew or suspected a specific cemetery and date range. I've found dcerts for people listed in the 1803-1860 listing, or having a pre 1860 obit, or for whom I have gotten a burial/death date through another source, like a tombstone or family lore. The images are pretty bad compared to later in the 19th century, in that they can sometimes be just scraps of paper and scribbles, but it's better than nothing. Sorry I can't be more specific about what to call it, how complete it is, or exactly which cabinet it's in. Maybe it's nothing more than the cemetery returns that are supposed to only exist after 1860, but were really being collected earlier, altho rather primitively. jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "larzemail" <larzemail@yahoo.com> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Mortuary Schedule > Thanks Holly, for the RINK mortality schedules, and you're right that there isn't one for 1890. > > I have one ancestor who died in late 1859 in Philly. Philly didn't start the death registrations until 1860, so there was no death cert for him. However, he was located in the mortality schedule which provided all the same info that would have been on the death cert. Another, though she died when there were death certs, I've been unable to find a death cert for, but she was found in the mortality schedules, so I now have her date of death, age at death, cause, etc. Not all states have these, but PA does. You'll find these in the census listings on Ancestry. > > ColumbusGuy <plugnplaycmh@yahoo.com> wrote: > That's a new term to me. What are mortality schedules? And what are their benefits to genealogy? > Thanks > Rich > > Holly Timm wrote: > I don't believe there are any surviving mortality schedules for 1890 but > here are the other two --- Holly Timm > > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.2/766 - Release Date: 04/18/2007 07:39 AM > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.2/766 - Release Date: 04/18/2007 07:39 AM