Patti, Neither an 1892 nor a 1903 Philadelphia marriage license will give you parents' names, unless one or both parties were minors and needed to provide a parent/guardian consent form. (Phila. licenses don't give parental information until c. 1913). The license may, however, have been annotated to specify the church at which the marriage took place (otherwise, it only tells you the officiant's name and address and you have to figure out the church on your own). Some (not many) church records might give you information on the parents -- but I see this mostly in German-speaking Lutheran parishes, so this may not apply to your situation. The marriage certs will, however, give you the bride's and groom's respective addresses, occupations, ages/DOBs, and POBs, which you can use to (maybe) find them in City Directories (maybe you'll find the names of family they're living with) and in birth (and/or baptism) records, which should (finally) get you the parents' names (though not necessarily the mother's maiden name). The marriage certs will, of course, give you the date of the application (possibly the same as the date of marriage) and the date of marriage, so at least you can have that piece of the puzzle answered relatively easily, once you find the license. There is a marriage license index for Phila. that covers 1885-1916, so both your Jacob's marriage should be in it. The index will give you the year and certificate number; you (or a volunteer) will have to look at the actual cert. in order to find out the full details. Both the index and the certs are available on microfilm at the City Archives and through the LDS. Hope that helps. Claire K. On Feb 3, 2007, at 10:54 PM, P Valverde wrote: > Hi, > I would like to know if someone has access to the > marriage information for: > > Jacob RINK to Lilie Derbshire 1892 Phila.Pa > (looking for his parents names and actual date of > marriage) > > Jacob RINK (SAME MAN) Married second to Lillian VIETEL > OR VERTEL 1903 Phila. Pa. looking for same information > > Thank you. > Patti > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. > http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http:// > archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message Claire K seekay@comcast.net

Patti and all, If the officiant is a Catholic priest PAHRC will know the church where the marriage took place. German-speaking Catholic parishes will sometimes have the names of the parents as well as the town in Germany if you are lucky! Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claire K" <seekay@comcast.net> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Marriage Request Lookup > Patti, > > Neither an 1892 nor a 1903 Philadelphia marriage license will give > you parents' names, unless one or both parties were minors and needed > to provide a parent/guardian consent form. (Phila. licenses don't > give parental information until c. 1913). The license may, however, > have been annotated to specify the church at which the marriage took > place (otherwise, it only tells you the officiant's name and address > and you have to figure out the church on your own). Some (not many) > church records might give you information on the parents -- but I see > this mostly in German-speaking Lutheran parishes, so this may not > apply to your situation. > > The marriage certs will, however, give you the bride's and groom's > respective addresses, occupations, ages/DOBs, and POBs, which you can > use to (maybe) find them in City Directories (maybe you'll find the > names of family they're living with) and in birth (and/or baptism) > records, which should (finally) get you the parents' names (though > not necessarily the mother's maiden name). > > The marriage certs will, of course, give you the date of the > application (possibly the same as the date of marriage) and the date > of marriage, so at least you can have that piece of the puzzle > answered relatively easily, once you find the license. There is a > marriage license index for Phila. that covers 1885-1916, so both your > Jacob's marriage should be in it. The index will give you the year > and certificate number; you (or a volunteer) will have to look at the > actual cert. in order to find out the full details. Both the index > and the certs are available on microfilm at the City Archives and > through the LDS. > > Hope that helps. > > Claire K. > > > On Feb 3, 2007, at 10:54 PM, P Valverde wrote: > >> Hi, >> I would like to know if someone has access to the >> marriage information for: >> >> Jacob RINK to Lilie Derbshire 1892 Phila.Pa >> (looking for his parents names and actual date of >> marriage) >> >> Jacob RINK (SAME MAN) Married second to Lillian VIETEL >> OR VERTEL 1903 Phila. Pa. looking for same information >> >> Thank you. >> Patti >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> ______________ >> Don't pick lemons. >> See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. >> http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html >> >> >> ********* >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: http:// >> archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS >> ********* >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > Claire K > seekay@comcast.net > > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >