Two cemeteries without on-site offices come to mind: Palmer Cemetery in Kensington and Leverington Cemetery in Roxborough. Gene Stackhouse I hate global warming. It's much too cold! >From: Bert Lazerow <lazer@sandiego.edu> >Reply-To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com >To: PHILLY-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Phly-Rts] cemeteries-- for profit and nonprofit,and information >charges >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:01:49 -0800 > > Cemeteries may be either nonprofit or for profit, or they may be run >by a public entity (though I am unaware of any of the latter in the >U.S. other than Veterans' cemeteries). > Most cemeteries that are operated by religious organizations are >either separately incorporated nonprofit corporations or are run >under the nonprofit organization that organizes the church. However, >the fact that a cemetery has a religious affiliation does not mean >that it is nonprofit. Many Jewish cemeteries are not the instrument >of a particular congregation. Instead, they are either profit-making >or nonprofit corporations who sell a certain number of lots to >different congregations which they can re-sell to their members as a >fund-raising (as well as a service providing) operation. In >pre-World War II days when these organizations were more in fashion, >burial societies would also buy a group of lots in a cemetery for >their members. > No organization (including a cemetery) is obligated to provide its >information without charge. Most cemeteries do so as a matter of >public relations, but one will find that cooperation likely to >disappear if you arrive with 100 names to check. > The question is whether a charge is reasonable. $20 a search sounds >like quite a lot if the cemetery has a computerized database of >burials, and all they are telling you is the section, row and grave >number, and they are sending you that by e-mail. On the other hand, >people often want to know everything on the cemetery's record about >this decedent, including the name of the person who paid for the >grave, and the cemetery's records may not be computerized and may >involve substantial searching through less-than-ideal indices, as >well as time after something is found to photocopy and mail the copy, >in which case $20 seems much more reasonable. > Can the charge be avoided? I have never had the experience of going >to a cemetery and having the office refuse to look up the location of >a grave. (In some communities, I have gone to a cemetery only to >discover that there is no on-site office, but never in >Philadelphia.) So if the person is not in Philadelphia, perhaps he >can find someone who lives there to make the trip for him and >photograph the stone while he is there. >Bert >Herbert Lazerow >U. of San Diego Law School, 5998 Alcala Park, San Diego CA 92110-2492 >lazer@sandiego.edu, fax 619-260-2230, phone (619)260-4597 > > > > >********* >Visit the threaded archives of this list: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS >********* > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My husband's family "the Leverings" own its ground and form this cemetery. He is currently working on a list of some of those interred there. He can be reached at billcannon@billcannon.net His goal is to provide some form of list on line. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Stackhouse" <genestackhouse@msn.com> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: [Phly-Rts] Cemetery Offices > Two cemeteries without on-site offices come to mind: Palmer Cemetery in > Kensington and Leverington Cemetery in Roxborough. > > Gene Stackhouse > I hate global warming. It's much too cold! > >>From: Bert Lazerow <lazer@sandiego.edu> >>Reply-To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com >>To: PHILLY-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [Phly-Rts] cemeteries-- for profit and nonprofit,and information >>charges >>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:01:49 -0800 >> >> Cemeteries may be either nonprofit or for profit, or they may be run >>by a public entity (though I am unaware of any of the latter in the >>U.S. other than Veterans' cemeteries). >> Most cemeteries that are operated by religious organizations are >>either separately incorporated nonprofit corporations or are run >>under the nonprofit organization that organizes the church. However, >>the fact that a cemetery has a religious affiliation does not mean >>that it is nonprofit. Many Jewish cemeteries are not the instrument >>of a particular congregation. Instead, they are either profit-making >>or nonprofit corporations who sell a certain number of lots to >>different congregations which they can re-sell to their members as a >>fund-raising (as well as a service providing) operation. In >>pre-World War II days when these organizations were more in fashion, >>burial societies would also buy a group of lots in a cemetery for >>their members. >> No organization (including a cemetery) is obligated to provide its >>information without charge. Most cemeteries do so as a matter of >>public relations, but one will find that cooperation likely to >>disappear if you arrive with 100 names to check. >> The question is whether a charge is reasonable. $20 a search sounds >>like quite a lot if the cemetery has a computerized database of >>burials, and all they are telling you is the section, row and grave >>number, and they are sending you that by e-mail. On the other hand, >>people often want to know everything on the cemetery's record about >>this decedent, including the name of the person who paid for the >>grave, and the cemetery's records may not be computerized and may >>involve substantial searching through less-than-ideal indices, as >>well as time after something is found to photocopy and mail the copy, >>in which case $20 seems much more reasonable. >> Can the charge be avoided? I have never had the experience of going >>to a cemetery and having the office refuse to look up the location of >>a grave. (In some communities, I have gone to a cemetery only to >>discover that there is no on-site office, but never in >>Philadelphia.) So if the person is not in Philadelphia, perhaps he >>can find someone who lives there to make the trip for him and >>photograph the stone while he is there. >>Bert >>Herbert Lazerow >>U. of San Diego Law School, 5998 Alcala Park, San Diego CA 92110-2492 >>lazer@sandiego.edu, fax 619-260-2230, phone (619)260-4597 >> >> >> >> >>********* >>Visit the threaded archives of this list: >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS >>********* >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message