I have found a perfect site to answer your question quite succinctly.   search:http//www.uphs.upenn.edu/paharc/timeline/1801/   This will clarify the confusion between the two names: Pennsylvania Hospital for the Insane and calling it simple Kirkbride.   Your question has led me on to a new trail of Philadelphia history.   Thank you. Sue F. --- On Sat, 11/21/09, Suzanne Matson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Suzanne Matson <[email protected]> Subject: [Phly-Rts] Kirkbride's Hospital or Philadelphia Hospital for the Insane To: "Philly Roots List" <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 6:45 PM I am trying to determine if Kirkbride's Hospital located between Haverford Avenue and Market Street and the Philadelphia Hospital for the Insane are or were the same facility.  The only reference I have found for a location for the Philadelphia Hospital for the Insane is a reference to Byberry.  I am not familiar with Philadelphia and do not know where Byberry is. I am searching for more information on Frank Klemme who died January 1916 in Philadelphia.  Kirk & Nice funeral home listed his place of death as Philadelphia Hospital and his death certificate listed the place of death as Philadelphia Hospital for the Insane.  Explanations and clarifications appreciated. Thanks-- Suzanne C Matson ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message