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    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] SERVEL, HICKS, CERONIO
    2. lfenimore
    3. Vince, I imagine you have seen 'Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania...' ? That author claims that Ceronio left in 1793 for Batavia, East Indies [?error for W. Indies, or perhaps he didn't get past the W. Indies on his voyage]. There is quite a bit about Stephen and his father Joseph, too. The only newspaper mention I could bring up on GenealogyBank was a reference to a letter waiting for Stephen at the Philadelphia Post Office in 1782. It seems one of the earliest mentions on GoogleBooks is his father's letter enquiring if he had arrived [1777]. I wonder if that 1793 city directory entry might have come from his wife - he may well have been gone at that point [to wherever ]but he would still be head of household. Or, as it seems to have been published by Dobson in early 1793, they would have gathered the information in 1792. Your guess that he might have died in the yellow fever epidemic but not in Philadelphia seems a reasonable assumption since he is not on the Philadelphia list of victims. He was known to have travelled to the location [Cape Francois] given in Carey's account of the epidemic as having had the fever prior to its arrival in Phila. He could have died late 1792 or early 1793. His widow had 3 young sons and remarried a year later [1794] It seems unlikely that the church would have allowed her to remarry without some sort of indication her husband was dead, especially since they were a well-known family in the city and connected to the Morrises. Liane

    11/22/2009 03:56:00
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] SERVEL, HICKS, CERONIO
    2. Vince: Have you looked at Richard N. Juliani's book, "Building Little Italy; Philadelphia's Italians Before Mass Migrations." He has about 6 pages on both the father (Joseph Ceronio) and son (Stephen Ceronio), with a one page entry for Serval, but several mentions for the Hicks family (Catherine, her brother William, and her father also William). Besides some genealogical info, this work helps to place the family in Philadelphia during the events of the American Revolution, their role in the war, and their relationships to Franklin, Willing & Morris, etc. Ken Milano, from an Italian who came with the mass migration, not before it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "lfenimore" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:56:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] SERVEL, HICKS, CERONIO Vince, I imagine you have seen 'Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania...' ? That author claims that Ceronio left in 1793 for Batavia, East Indies [?error for W. Indies, or perhaps he didn't get past the W. Indies on his voyage]. There is quite a bit about Stephen and his father Joseph, too. The only newspaper mention I could bring up on GenealogyBank was a reference to a letter waiting for Stephen at the Philadelphia Post Office in 1782.  It seems one of the earliest mentions on GoogleBooks is his father's letter enquiring if he had arrived [1777]. I wonder if that 1793 city directory entry might have come from his wife - he may well have been gone at that point [to wherever ]but he would still be head of household.  Or, as it seems to have been published by Dobson in early 1793, they would have gathered the information in 1792. Your guess that he might have died in the yellow fever epidemic but not in Philadelphia seems a reasonable assumption since he is not on the Philadelphia list of victims.  He was known to have travelled to the location [Cape Francois] given in Carey's account of the epidemic as having had the fever prior to its arrival in Phila.  He could have died late 1792 or early 1793.  His widow had 3 young sons and remarried a year later [1794] It seems unlikely that the church would have allowed her to remarry without some sort of indication her husband was dead, especially since they were a well-known family in the city and connected to the Morrises. Liane   ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/23/2009 06:54:45
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] SERVEL, HICKS, CERONIO
    2. Vincent E. Summers
    3. Thanks, Ken - yes I've seen this and typed it out for my notes. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:54 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Vince: > > > > Have you looked at Richard N. Juliani's book, "Building Little Italy; Philadelphia's Italians Before Mass Migrations." He has about 6 pages on both the father (Joseph Ceronio) and son (Stephen Ceronio), with a one page entry for Serval, but several mentions for the Hicks family (Catherine, her brother William, and her father also William). > > > > Besides some genealogical info, this work helps to place the family in Philadelphia during the events of the American Revolution, their role in the war, and their relationships to Franklin, Willing & Morris, etc. > > > > Ken Milano, from an Italian who came with the mass migration, not before it. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lfenimore" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:56:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] SERVEL, HICKS, CERONIO > > Vince, > > I imagine you have seen 'Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania...' ? > > That author claims that Ceronio left in 1793 for Batavia, East Indies > [?error for W. Indies, or perhaps he didn't get past the W. Indies on his > voyage]. > > There is quite a bit about Stephen and his father Joseph, too. > > The only newspaper mention I could bring up on GenealogyBank was a reference > to a letter waiting for Stephen at the Philadelphia Post Office in 1782.  It > seems one of the earliest mentions on GoogleBooks is his father's letter > enquiring if he had arrived [1777]. > > I wonder if that 1793 city directory entry might have come from his wife - > he may well have been gone at that point [to wherever ]but he would still be > head of household.  Or, as it seems to have been published by Dobson in > early 1793, they would have gathered the information in 1792. > > Your guess that he might have died in the yellow fever epidemic but not in > Philadelphia seems a reasonable assumption since he is not on the > Philadelphia list of victims.  He was known to have travelled to the > location [Cape Francois] given in Carey's account of the epidemic as having > had the fever prior to its arrival in Phila.  He could have died late 1792 > or early 1793.  His widow had 3 young sons and remarried a year later [1794] > > It seems unlikely that the church would have allowed her to remarry without > some sort of indication her husband was dead, especially since they were a > well-known family in the city and connected to the Morrises. > > Liane > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- http://www.ehow.com/members/ds_7b3c7914-50da-4602-ad9f-8e0007b16ff9.html http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/333797/vincent_summers.html

    11/23/2009 02:55:14