Thank you both for your replies, I keep forgetting about familysearch pilot as it is not accesssible on my system, but my cousin will be hunting there for us. The books do sound awful to go through, and we know the films are often illegible, so hopefully familysearch will pan out. If it does not, then we will look elsewhere as well. I am still not completely convinced all the BMDs occurred in Philly, as I do not find the family in the city directories for here, but have to start here as that's what the family has thought, and what some records indicate. And I am still not done hunting for directory entries for them hiding under odd spellings, just in case. Thanks so much.