I have a question about how other Philadelphia researchers make use of these on-line lists for immigrants into the Port of Philadelphia. I'll list the three lists here for reference, and then to each one I'll add an example for each list, showing why I have not been able to extract the information from these on-line lists. First, there's the "Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1822." Example: I'm looking for Elizabeth Curry who was born in England in 1804 and married in Philadelphia in 1821. These lists are arranged by date of entry into the Port of Philadelphia. There are 30 individual NARA rolls for that time period and, with each roll, hundreds of records. How can this be useful, since the information I actually seek is, in fact, "the date of entry into the Port of Philadelphia." Second, there's the "Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1883-1945." Example: I'm looking for Margaret Allison who was born in Ireland in 1870 and immigrated to the US in 1897. Again, this list is organized by date of entry. Even though I have a specific year of immigration, there are two NARA rolls for that year, roll no. 1 containing over 700 names, and role no. 2 with 400 names. Third and last, there's the "Philadelphia Passenger Lists Index Cards, 1883-1948." Example: I'm looking for Keith Kennedy Skene who was born in Scotland in 1856 and immigrated to the US in 1890. This collection is organized by Soundex Code (S500 for Keith Skene). There are two parts that contain S500, Part I containing 5,000 names and Part II, also with 5,000 names. Upon review of these records, the S500s appear randomly throughout these two parts, making the finding of Mr. Skene nearly impossible. I realize that I can order specific films from FamilySearch individually, but the cost becomes prohibitive when you have over 12 immigrant names. If anyone out there has any suggestions, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks in advance. Susan

Susan, The Philadelphia immigration lists should all be on Ancestry. Your local public library may have a subscription and they are indexed. It takes some patience because people don't always arrive the year they say in the census. You can see the original passenger list, too. Finding someone who arrived before 1821 will be difficult as those lists are not plentiful. Using Ancestry is much easier than the old indexes and those huge microfilm reels. Liane

Liane, I'm sorry, but your information is being directed to the wrong Susan. Please contact the philly-roots webmaster and see if they can correct this problem You want to be connecting with Susan Abramson; email suenstu@hotmail.com I have sent this message to philly-roots and Susan Abramson. Sincerely, Susan Facciolli ________________________________ From: lfenimore <lfenimore@columbus.rr.com> To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Immigration Lists on Family Search Susan, The Philadelphia immigration lists should all be on Ancestry.  Your local public library may have a subscription and they are indexed.  It takes some patience because people don't always arrive the year they say in the census. You can see the original passenger list, too.  Finding someone who arrived before 1821 will be difficult as those lists are not plentiful. Using Ancestry is much easier than the old indexes and those huge microfilm reels. Liane ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Susan, It is fairly clear that these search engines from Family Search are often not complete. I have been going over a set of State census records. There is a search engine that has actually reflects about 10% of the total number of entries. This forces me to go through the rolls, which (thankfully) are online. It is my hope that one day, Family Search will complete its search engine for this census as well as for many of the other records that it is attempting to get on line with some haste. There are many parish records that have come online, but the original cannot be viewed as yet. Again, I hope, one day, original images will be added. As with Ancestry, it often pays to return to a site every few months as additions are always possible. These are my thoughts. Bev W -----Original Message----- From: Susan Abramson <suenstu@hotmail.com> To: PhillyRoots Rootsweb <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Feb 26, 2012 11:56 am Subject: [Phly-Rts] Immigration Lists on Family Search I have a question about how other Philadelphia researchers make use of these on-line lists for immigrants into the Port of Philadelphia.I'll list the three lists here for reference, and then to each one I'll add an example for each list, showing why I have not been able to extract the information from these on-line lists.First, there's the "Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1822." Example: I'm looking for Elizabeth Curry who was born in England in 1804 and married in Philadelphia in 1821. These lists are arranged by date of entry into the Port of Philadelphia. There are 30 individual NARA rolls for that time period and, with each roll, hundreds of records. How can this be useful, since the information I actually seek is, in fact, "the date of entry into the Port of Philadelphia."Second, there's the "Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1883-1945." Example: I'm looking for Margaret Allison who was born in Ireland in 1870 and immigrated to the US in 1897. Again, this list is organized by date of entry. Even though I have a specific year of immigration, there are two NARA rolls for that year, roll no. 1 containing over 700 names, and role no. 2 with 400 names.Third and last, there's the "Philadelphia Passenger Lists Index Cards, 1883-1948." Example: I'm looking for Keith Kennedy Skene who was born in Scotland in 1856 and immigrated to the US in 1890. This collection is organized by Soundex Code (S500 for Keith Skene). There are two parts that contain S500, Part I containing 5,000 names and Part II, also with 5,000 names. Upon review of these records, the S500s appear randomly throughout these two parts, making the finding of Mr. Skene nearly impossible.I realize that I can order specific films from FamilySearch individually, but the cost becomes prohibitive when you have over 12 immigrant names.If anyone out there has any suggestions, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks in advance.Susan *********Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS*********-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Bev W., Your message was sent to the wrong person. You may want to contact the philly-roots rootswebmaster and see that they clear up this matter. The person you intended to reach is the person named below. Susan Abramson <suenstu@hotmail.com> Hope this clears up the misdirection. Sue F. ________________________________ From: "user917826@aol.com" <user917826@aol.com> To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Immigration Lists on Family Search Hi Susan, It is fairly clear that these search engines from Family Search are often not complete.  I have been going over a set of State census records.  There is a search engine that has actually reflects about 10% of the total number of entries.  This  forces me to go through the rolls, which (thankfully) are online.  It is my hope that one day, Family Search will complete its search engine for this census as well as for many of the other records that it is attempting to get on line with some haste.  There are many parish records that have come online, but the original cannot be viewed as yet.  Again, I hope, one day, original images will be added. As with Ancestry, it often pays to return to a site every few months as additions are always possible. These are my thoughts. Bev W -----Original Message----- From: Susan Abramson <suenstu@hotmail.com> To: PhillyRoots Rootsweb <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Feb 26, 2012 11:56 am Subject: [Phly-Rts] Immigration Lists on Family Search I have a question about how other Philadelphia researchers make use of these on-line lists for immigrants into the Port of Philadelphia.I'll list the three lists here for reference, and then to each one I'll add an example for each list, showing why I have not been able to extract the information from these on-line lists.First, there's the "Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1822."  Example:  I'm looking for Elizabeth Curry who was born in England in 1804 and married in Philadelphia in 1821.  These lists are arranged by date of entry into the Port of Philadelphia.  There are 30 individual NARA rolls for that time period and, with each roll, hundreds of records.  How can this be useful, since the information I actually seek is, in fact,  "the date of entry into the Port of Philadelphia."Second, there's the "Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1883-1945."  Example:  I'm looking for Margaret Allison who was born in Ireland in 1870 and immigrated to the US in 1897.  Again, this list is organized by date of entry.  Even though I have a specific year of immigration, there are two NARA rolls for that year, roll no. 1 containing over 700 names, and role no. 2 with 400 names.Third and last, there's the "Philadelphia Passenger Lists Index Cards, 1883-1948."  Example:  I'm looking for Keith Kennedy Skene who was born in Scotland in 1856 and immigrated to the US in 1890.  This collection is organized by Soundex Code (S500 for Keith Skene).  There are two parts that contain S500, Part I containing 5,000 names and Part II, also with 5,000 names.  Upon review of these records, the S500s appear randomly throughout these two parts, making the finding of Mr. Skene nearly impossible.I realize that I can order specific films from FamilySearch individually, but the cost becomes prohibitive when you have over 12 immigrant names.If anyone out there has any suggestions, I would appreciate hearing from you.  Thanks in advance.Susan                              *********Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS*********-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message