I've been deeply involved in a number of things for about a year or two that has taken me away from genealogy for the most part. However, I've been trying to get back into it again--particularly my Philadelphia genealogical connections--when I came to discover something screwy has happened to the old SSDI index I found so helpful. Figures that anything good has to go, or at least be tampered with. Is there anywhere on line that this informative database remains intact without having to join this or pay for that? Thanks, Vince Summers

If someone who has access to Genealogy Bank would be so kind, I am looking for the following 2 Philadelphia deaths/obituaries: Henry Dettmar (or may be spelled Dittmer) - between 1920 and 1930. He may have been living at N. Thompson or N. 27th or possibly N. Marston at the time of his death. While in Philadelphia, he was a fireman at a power house. He moved from Chesapeake City, MD, sometime between 1880 and 1885. He is listed as a widow in the 1920 Philadelphia census. He may have been born November, 1845, in Germany. Caroline Dettmar (or may be spelled Dittmer) - his wife - between 1910 and 1920. She may have been living at N. Thompson or N. 27th or possibly N. Marston at the time of her death. She moved from Chesapeake City, MD, sometime between 1880 and 1885. She may have been born June, 1855, in Germany (specifically Prussia). Any help would be very much appreciated, as I have not been able to determine their dates of death nor the cemetery where they are buried, which I assume is in Philadelphia. Lynn Blenderman ************************************************************************************ "We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." Benj. Franklin, 1776. Walter G. Blenderman, Lynn K. Blenderman, N. Plainfield, NJ, USA **mailto:netchemist@earthlink.net*******************************http://www.blenderman.net**

Try this site out...Has all kind of search engines...Read down for the one step search for SSDI. http://www.stevemorse.org/ Jim in Southern Arizona

Please do share your brick wall?? there's a lot of info written on the Philadelphia Regiments of the Civil War. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Ann Tyson" <ba_tyson@comcast.net> To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:37:08 PM Subject: [Phly-Rts] Mortuary notice for Gaw Got it.  Unfortunately, most of notice was a poem. I will send the file to your email. Betty Ann -----Original Message----- From: philly-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:philly-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:13 PM To: Philadelphia rootsweb; Philly Roots Subject: [Phly-Rts] Genealogybank Hi gang, Need a favor from you all...I came across an entry in 'Genealogybank' that shows a Mortuary notice that may or may not break my brick wall. Would someone who is a subscriber be kind enough to look it up and send the info to me? Public Ledger Jan 19, 1863..Gaw - Killed at the battle of Fredricksberg Dec. 13, 1863. Corp. Wm 25 Years of age.... I can not read the rest of the notice.  This is the first item that I have ever seen or heard of relating to him and I am hoping that a relative is named in the notice. At least something that can allow a step forward. Thanks guys.   ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Got it. Unfortunately, most of notice was a poem. I will send the file to your email. Betty Ann -----Original Message----- From: philly-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:philly-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:13 PM To: Philadelphia rootsweb; Philly Roots Subject: [Phly-Rts] Genealogybank Hi gang, Need a favor from you all...I came across an entry in 'Genealogybank' that shows a Mortuary notice that may or may not break my brick wall. Would someone who is a subscriber be kind enough to look it up and send the info to me? Public Ledger Jan 19, 1863..Gaw - Killed at the battle of Fredricksberg Dec. 13, 1863. Corp. Wm 25 Years of age.... I can not read the rest of the notice. This is the first item that I have ever seen or heard of relating to him and I am hoping that a relative is named in the notice. At least something that can allow a step forward. Thanks guys. ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To all who responded, thanks for the fast come back. Unfortunately new information was not forthcoming but who knows, someday I may hit the jackpot! Thanks again and Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to all. Jim in southern Arizona

Hi gang, Need a favor from you all...I came across an entry in ‘Genealogybank’ that shows a Mortuary notice that may or may not break my brick wall. Would someone who is a subscriber be kind enough to look it up and send the info to me? Public Ledger Jan 19, 1863..Gaw – Killed at the battle of Fredricksberg Dec. 13, 1863. Corp. Wm 25 Years of age.... I can not read the rest of the notice. This is the first item that I have ever seen or heard of relating to him and I am hoping that a relative is named in the notice. At least something that can allow a step forward. Thanks guys.

I want to thank everyone who is trying to help find the burial place of Josiah K Proctor.  I did just find a death notice for his wife who died in Wyncote PA 6 days later than he did, of pneumonia. In the notice it stated that her husband had died of pneumonia, too.   This notice was in a hometown newspaper in Ayer, Mass, where they originated.    Can anyone help me find a mortuary notice for his wife - Sarah Jane (Jennie) Wright Proctor died 2/17/1920.  He actually died 2/11/1920 in Ocean City and another researcher just sent me death info in City Hall there, but it did not list a cemetery, only that he was buried "in Philadelphia".   Since 2 of his children were buried at Mt Vernon cemetery, I am inclined to think he and his wife, Sarah Jane, are there too. Is there a CD or a list of burials at Mt Vernon cemetery?  He had served in a Mass regiment, filed for a pension in PA on 4/1910 according to a Pension card I found.  The HouseofProctor website is who asked me to help find his burial in Montgomery Co because he lived in Wyncote, near Cheltenham.  I now think he and his wife are probably buried at Mt Vernon, but need confirmation. Houseof Proctor doesn't have proof either!  I suggested they ask for his pension file and also for a death cert for his wife.   That is why I am asking for a mortuary notice for his wife, if there is one - 2/17/1920 Proctor, and maybe a day or 2 after.  They will add them to FindaGrave once they know for sure where they are buried.   Perhaps her mortuary notice will show a cemetery?  From looking at the archived messages for Philly-roots list, that Mt Vernon cemetery seemed to be so neglected, and entrance was locked?  This was a few years ago, and I wondered if anything has improved there since? Thank you again for all your help.  You are all so great, and I wish you a very Merry Christmas and here's to a better 2012. Diana in Alabama  audianaq@msn.com > From: "Vincent E. Summers" <vsummers@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Josiah K PROCTOR d 2/12/1920 > To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAO7U7+Hg0Bbzju5umGyWo8OgFhN_edgUQcj+hqex2L80RiS7VA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > This article: > > http://books.gpl.org/greenstone/collect/turnersp/index/assoc/D1203.dir/doc.pdf > > claims he died on the 11th of pneumonia also. > > This downloadable Google Book also says he died on the 11th, with some bio: > > http://books.google.com/books?id=KTnnAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA445&lpg=PA445&dq=%22J.+K.+Proctor%22+died&source=bl&ots=ApOM-5L3XC&sig=vDFxRmi-2TYuXEX06lLIaGO58G4&hl=en&ei=lfHlTrn0B-bt0gHI_qHwBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22J.%20K.%20Proctor%22%20died&f=false > > Unfortunately, that's all I've found. > > Vince > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:11:19 -0500 > From: Mary Walsh <maryewalsh@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Josiah K PROCTOR d 2/12/1920 > To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL102-W595B09A96CDAB4875A2C3ECCBC0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Diana, > This site says that he is a Civil War vet buried in Mount Vernon. http://www.houseofproctor.org/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I18814&tree=hop > Regards, > Mary > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:17:53 -0500 > From: "lfenimore" <lfenimore@columbus.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Josiah K Proctor died 2/12/1920 > To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <117708548E094A5B8D90D4BEF1902E95@owner86529396b> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Diana, > > This websites indicates he was buried at Mt. Vernon. But nothing on his > wife Sarah. > > http://www.houseofproctor.org/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I18814&tree=hop > > Liane > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:20:16 -0500 > From: "Vincent E. Summers" <vsummers@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Josiah K PROCTOR d 2/12/1920 > To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAO7U7+FUvv1T60Ok_o8pNTYYDmO785NqgEwXEfjmo3JSyYtOPg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I saw that, as well, but figured it could be in error. It would be > countering both a newspaper and a book on the subject. Could it be another > fellow, perhaps a cousin? I did find a Josiah K. in a publication talking > about the 1700's, for that matter... > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Mary Walsh <maryewalsh@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Diana, > > This site says that he is a Civil War vet buried in Mount Vernon. > > http://www.houseofproctor.org/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I18814&tree=hop > > Regards, > > Mary > > > From: vsummers@gmail.com > > > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:25:16 -0500 > > > To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Josiah K PROCTOR d 2/12/1920 > > > > > > This article: > > > > > > > > http://books.gpl.org/greenstone/collect/turnersp/index/assoc/D1203.dir/doc.pdf > > > > > > claims he died on the 11th of pneumonia also. > > > > > > This downloadable Google Book also says he died on the 11th, with some > > bio: > > > > > > > > http://books.google.com/books?id=KTnnAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA445&lpg=PA445&dq=%22J.+K.+Proctor%22+died&source=bl&ots=ApOM-5L3XC&sig=vDFxRmi-2TYuXEX06lLIaGO58G4&hl=en&ei=lfHlTrn0B-bt0gHI_qHwBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22J.%20K.%20Proctor%22%20died&f=false > > > > > > Unfortunately, that's all I've found. > > > > > > Vince > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Diana Quinones <audianaq@msn.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone help find an OBIT or Mortuary notice for Josiah K PROCTOR in > > > > the Philadelphia paper? I had found a short death notice in Harrisburg > > > > paper, but it does not show where he is buried. > > > > 2/13/1920 edition page 10"Josiah K Proctor Dies-Noted Textile > > > > Inventor Philadelphia, Feb 12 - Josiah K Proctor, Wyncote, died today > > in > > > > Ocean City NJ. He was 72 years old. He was a native of Chelmsford, > > Mass. > > > > Mr. Proctor was inventor of a textile drying machine widely used in > > this > > > > country. He designed the first garnett machine in this country." > > > > His wife was Sarah Jane (Wright) Proctor. In 1920 Census they are > > alive, > > > > both age 71, he is retired, and they lived in Cheltenham, Montgomery > > Co., > > > > both age 71. He was head of Proctor-Silex Co, and I felt like there > > should > > > > be a better notice of him in the Philadelphia paper. His wife must > > have > > > > died between 1920 and 1930 Census too, as she could not be found in the > > > > 1930. > > > > Two of their 4 children died young and are buried at Mt Vernon > > cemetery in > > > > Philadelphia, and I am wondering if they are also? > > > > Any help would be great. > > > > Merry Christmas to all, > > > > Diana in Alabama > > > > audianaq@msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********* > > > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > > > > ********* > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Vince's AC Contributions< > > http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/333797/vincent_summers.html> > > > > > > > > > ********* > > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > > > ********* > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > > ********* > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Vince's AC Contributions<http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/333797/vincent_summers.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:06:47 -0500 > From: "lfenimore" <lfenimore@columbus.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Josiah K PROCTOR d 2/12/1920 > To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <FE001B331E3741888A36431634BE5546@owner86529396b> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > >>[from Vince in response to below] I saw that, as well, but figured it > >>could be in error. > > >>This site says that he is a Civil War vet buried in Mount Vernon. > > I think it said he was a drummer boy. So if born 1848 [72 at death in > 1920], that would be possible. Easy enough to check. > > Liane > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:15:08 -0500 > From: "Vincent E. Summers" <vsummers@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Josiah K PROCTOR d 2/12/1920 > To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAO7U7+Gt217KS95gHPdcw_+3Jq_SjZvCt2fpQ9zVCB++4KDBiQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > That would be good. It's just that the other references are more likely to > be correct -- at least the newspaper *should be.* > > Still, if his location of burial is unknown, it could be due to some weird > twist such as an inaccurate date of death! > > Vince > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 12:06 PM, lfenimore <lfenimore@columbus.rr.com>wrote: > > > >>[from Vince in response to below] I saw that, as well, but figured it > > >>could be in error. > > > > >>This site says that he is a Civil War vet buried in Mount Vernon. > > > > I think it said he was a drummer boy. So if born 1848 [72 at death in > > 1920], that would be possible. Easy enough to check > > > > Liane

That would be good. It's just that the other references are more likely to be correct -- at least the newspaper *should be.* Still, if his location of burial is unknown, it could be due to some weird twist such as an inaccurate date of death! Vince On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 12:06 PM, lfenimore <lfenimore@columbus.rr.com>wrote: > >>[from Vince in response to below] I saw that, as well, but figured it > >>could be in error. > > >>This site says that he is a Civil War vet buried in Mount Vernon. > > I think it said he was a drummer boy. So if born 1848 [72 at death in > 1920], that would be possible. Easy enough to check. > > Liane > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Vince's AC Contributions<http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/333797/vincent_summers.html>

>>[from Vince in response to below] I saw that, as well, but figured it >>could be in error. >>This site says that he is a Civil War vet buried in Mount Vernon. I think it said he was a drummer boy. So if born 1848 [72 at death in 1920], that would be possible. Easy enough to check. Liane

I saw that, as well, but figured it could be in error. It would be countering both a newspaper and a book on the subject. Could it be another fellow, perhaps a cousin? I did find a Josiah K. in a publication talking about the 1700's, for that matter... On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Mary Walsh <maryewalsh@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Diana, > This site says that he is a Civil War vet buried in Mount Vernon. > http://www.houseofproctor.org/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I18814&tree=hop > Regards, > Mary > > From: vsummers@gmail.com > > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:25:16 -0500 > > To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Josiah K PROCTOR d 2/12/1920 > > > > This article: > > > > > http://books.gpl.org/greenstone/collect/turnersp/index/assoc/D1203.dir/doc.pdf > > > > claims he died on the 11th of pneumonia also. > > > > This downloadable Google Book also says he died on the 11th, with some > bio: > > > > > http://books.google.com/books?id=KTnnAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA445&lpg=PA445&dq=%22J.+K.+Proctor%22+died&source=bl&ots=ApOM-5L3XC&sig=vDFxRmi-2TYuXEX06lLIaGO58G4&hl=en&ei=lfHlTrn0B-bt0gHI_qHwBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22J.%20K.%20Proctor%22%20died&f=false > > > > Unfortunately, that's all I've found. > > > > Vince > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Diana Quinones <audianaq@msn.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone help find an OBIT or Mortuary notice for Josiah K PROCTOR in > > > the Philadelphia paper? I had found a short death notice in Harrisburg > > > paper, but it does not show where he is buried. > > > 2/13/1920 edition page 10"Josiah K Proctor Dies-Noted Textile > > > Inventor Philadelphia, Feb 12 - Josiah K Proctor, Wyncote, died today > in > > > Ocean City NJ. He was 72 years old. He was a native of Chelmsford, > Mass. > > > Mr. Proctor was inventor of a textile drying machine widely used in > this > > > country. He designed the first garnett machine in this country." > > > His wife was Sarah Jane (Wright) Proctor. In 1920 Census they are > alive, > > > both age 71, he is retired, and they lived in Cheltenham, Montgomery > Co., > > > both age 71. He was head of Proctor-Silex Co, and I felt like there > should > > > be a better notice of him in the Philadelphia paper. His wife must > have > > > died between 1920 and 1930 Census too, as she could not be found in the > > > 1930. > > > Two of their 4 children died young and are buried at Mt Vernon > cemetery in > > > Philadelphia, and I am wondering if they are also? > > > Any help would be great. > > > Merry Christmas to all, > > > Diana in Alabama > > > audianaq@msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ********* > > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > > > ********* > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Vince's AC Contributions< > http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/333797/vincent_summers.html> > > > > > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > > ********* > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Vince's AC Contributions<http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/333797/vincent_summers.html>

Diana, This websites indicates he was buried at Mt. Vernon. But nothing on his wife Sarah. http://www.houseofproctor.org/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I18814&tree=hop Liane

Diana, This site says that he is a Civil War vet buried in Mount Vernon. http://www.houseofproctor.org/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I18814&tree=hop Regards, Mary > From: vsummers@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:25:16 -0500 > To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Josiah K PROCTOR d 2/12/1920 > > This article: > > http://books.gpl.org/greenstone/collect/turnersp/index/assoc/D1203.dir/doc.pdf > > claims he died on the 11th of pneumonia also. > > This downloadable Google Book also says he died on the 11th, with some bio: > > http://books.google.com/books?id=KTnnAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA445&lpg=PA445&dq=%22J.+K.+Proctor%22+died&source=bl&ots=ApOM-5L3XC&sig=vDFxRmi-2TYuXEX06lLIaGO58G4&hl=en&ei=lfHlTrn0B-bt0gHI_qHwBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22J.%20K.%20Proctor%22%20died&f=false > > Unfortunately, that's all I've found. > > Vince > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Diana Quinones <audianaq@msn.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Can anyone help find an OBIT or Mortuary notice for Josiah K PROCTOR in > > the Philadelphia paper? I had found a short death notice in Harrisburg > > paper, but it does not show where he is buried. > > 2/13/1920 edition page 10"Josiah K Proctor Dies-Noted Textile > > Inventor Philadelphia, Feb 12 - Josiah K Proctor, Wyncote, died today in > > Ocean City NJ. He was 72 years old. He was a native of Chelmsford, Mass. > > Mr. Proctor was inventor of a textile drying machine widely used in this > > country. He designed the first garnett machine in this country." > > His wife was Sarah Jane (Wright) Proctor. In 1920 Census they are alive, > > both age 71, he is retired, and they lived in Cheltenham, Montgomery Co., > > both age 71. He was head of Proctor-Silex Co, and I felt like there should > > be a better notice of him in the Philadelphia paper. His wife must have > > died between 1920 and 1930 Census too, as she could not be found in the > > 1930. > > Two of their 4 children died young and are buried at Mt Vernon cemetery in > > Philadelphia, and I am wondering if they are also? > > Any help would be great. > > Merry Christmas to all, > > Diana in Alabama > > audianaq@msn.com > > > > > > > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > > ********* > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Vince's AC Contributions<http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/333797/vincent_summers.html> > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Notice of Josiah, sent to Diana from Phila. Inquirer, but does not give the cemetery. Name not found in Find A Grave. Jane -----Original Message----- From: Diana Quinones Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:52 AM To: philly-roots Subject: [Phly-Rts] Josiah K Proctor died 2/12/1920 Can anyone help find burial place, obit or mortuary notice, for Josiah K Proctor. I found a short death notice for him in a remote newspaper, but hoping, because of his notoriety, that there is one in the Philadelphia papers. Also of his wife, Sarah J PROCTOR, who died bet 1920 and 1930. 2/13/1920 edition page 10 of The Patriot, a Harrisburg paper:Josiah K Proctor Dies-Noted Textile Inventor Philadelphia, Feb 12 - Josiah K Proctor, Wyncote, died today in Ocean City NJ. He was 72 years old. He was a native of Chelmsford, Mass. Mr. Proctor was inventor of a textile drying machine widely used in this country. He designed the first garnett machine in this country. In 1900 he lived in Philadelphia.In 1910 and 1920 census, he was in Cheltenham in Montgomery Co, but appears to have died in Ocean City NJ. Two infant daughters are buried at Mt Vernon cemetery, in Philadelphia. Am looking for where he and his wife are buried. He was head of Proctor-Silex back then. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all, Diana in Alabama audianaq@msn.com ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4674 - Release Date: 12/11/11

This article: http://books.gpl.org/greenstone/collect/turnersp/index/assoc/D1203.dir/doc.pdf claims he died on the 11th of pneumonia also. This downloadable Google Book also says he died on the 11th, with some bio: http://books.google.com/books?id=KTnnAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA445&lpg=PA445&dq=%22J.+K.+Proctor%22+died&source=bl&ots=ApOM-5L3XC&sig=vDFxRmi-2TYuXEX06lLIaGO58G4&hl=en&ei=lfHlTrn0B-bt0gHI_qHwBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22J.%20K.%20Proctor%22%20died&f=false Unfortunately, that's all I've found. Vince On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Diana Quinones <audianaq@msn.com> wrote: > > > Can anyone help find an OBIT or Mortuary notice for Josiah K PROCTOR in > the Philadelphia paper? I had found a short death notice in Harrisburg > paper, but it does not show where he is buried. > 2/13/1920 edition page 10"Josiah K Proctor Dies-Noted Textile > Inventor Philadelphia, Feb 12 - Josiah K Proctor, Wyncote, died today in > Ocean City NJ. He was 72 years old. He was a native of Chelmsford, Mass. > Mr. Proctor was inventor of a textile drying machine widely used in this > country. He designed the first garnett machine in this country." > His wife was Sarah Jane (Wright) Proctor. In 1920 Census they are alive, > both age 71, he is retired, and they lived in Cheltenham, Montgomery Co., > both age 71. He was head of Proctor-Silex Co, and I felt like there should > be a better notice of him in the Philadelphia paper. His wife must have > died between 1920 and 1930 Census too, as she could not be found in the > 1930. > Two of their 4 children died young and are buried at Mt Vernon cemetery in > Philadelphia, and I am wondering if they are also? > Any help would be great. > Merry Christmas to all, > Diana in Alabama > audianaq@msn.com > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Vince's AC Contributions<http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/333797/vincent_summers.html>

Can anyone help find an OBIT or Mortuary notice for Josiah K PROCTOR in the Philadelphia paper?  I had found a short death notice in Harrisburg paper, but it does not show where he is buried. 2/13/1920 edition page 10"Josiah K Proctor Dies-Noted  Textile Inventor  Philadelphia, Feb 12 - Josiah K Proctor, Wyncote, died today in Ocean City NJ.  He was 72 years old.  He was a native of Chelmsford, Mass.  Mr. Proctor was inventor of a textile drying machine widely used in this country.  He designed the first garnett machine in this country." His wife was Sarah Jane (Wright) Proctor.  In 1920 Census they are alive, both age 71, he is retired, and they lived in Cheltenham, Montgomery Co., both age 71.  He was head of Proctor-Silex Co, and I felt like there should be a better notice of him in the Philadelphia paper.  His wife must have died between 1920 and 1930 Census too, as she could not be found in the 1930.  Two of their 4 children died young and are buried at Mt Vernon cemetery in Philadelphia, and I am wondering if they are also? Any help would be great. Merry Christmas to all, Diana in Alabama audianaq@msn.com

Can anyone help find burial place, obit or mortuary notice, for Josiah K Proctor.  I found a short death notice for him in a remote newspaper, but hoping, because of his notoriety, that there is one in the Philadelphia papers.  Also of his wife, Sarah J PROCTOR, who died bet 1920 and 1930. 2/13/1920 edition page 10 of The Patriot, a  Harrisburg paper:Josiah K Proctor Dies-Noted  Textile Inventor  Philadelphia, Feb 12 - Josiah K Proctor, Wyncote, died today in Ocean City NJ.  He was 72 years old.  He was a native of Chelmsford, Mass.  Mr. Proctor was inventor of a textile drying machine widely used in this country.  He designed the first garnett machine in this country. In 1900 he lived in Philadelphia.In 1910 and 1920 census, he was in Cheltenham in Montgomery Co, but appears to have died in Ocean City NJ.  Two infant daughters are buried at Mt Vernon cemetery, in Philadelphia.  Am looking for where he and his wife are buried. He was head of Proctor-Silex back then. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all, Diana in Alabama audianaq@msn.com

The city directories have nothing to do with the census. The city directories were published a year after they were compiled, e.g. the 1850 city directory was compiled in 1849. -----Original Message----- From: Mary Walsh <maryewalsh@hotmail.com> To: philly-roots <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 11, 2011 8:37 am Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] John Garratt aka Garrett - Spring Garden 1830 US Census t is my understanding that the Phila. city directories were up to date as of ctober of the year before. Thus, John Garrett could have been listed in the 849 directory if he was alive before Oct. 1848. As for looking for him in 850-1851, I was really looking to see if Ann may have been listed as widow of ohn during those two years. <<< Would a directory for 1849-51 have included a man who died prior to 1850 1849, for example)? Ann Garrett was alone on the 1850 census for West hiladelphia, so husband John would have had to have died prior to that (altho t is possible he could have died early in 1850, before the census was taken). ow did directories handle that information? >>> ********* isit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ******** ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

It is my understanding that the Phila. city directories were up to date as of October of the year before. Thus, John Garrett could have been listed in the 1849 directory if he was alive before Oct. 1848. As for looking for him in 1850-1851, I was really looking to see if Ann may have been listed as widow of John during those two years. <<< Would a directory for 1849-51 have included a man who died prior to 1850 (1849, for example)? Ann Garrett was alone on the 1850 census for West Philadelphia, so husband John would have had to have died prior to that (altho it is possible he could have died early in 1850, before the census was taken). How did directories handle that information? >>>

<<<To my knowledge, the Garratt/Garrett family all went to IL around 1851-52. John Garratt b. est. 1822 - Know nothing about himAnn Garratt - (m. George GREEN in Philadelphia around 30 Sep 1843, IL obituary info)>>> In case you didn't know this already, I found Ann and George Green listed right before Ann Garrett in the 1850 Census. Regards, Mary