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    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] PHILLY-ROOTS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 144
    2. Hi Rich, There could be several reasons for this, but in my personal experience, there are 2 reasons: 1) The plot/grave of the first person to die was full - I have this with my parents. The grave that my Mother is buried in was brought 20 years prior to her death, in a hurry because my sister had died and they had to buy it when she died, When my Mother died she was buried with my sister. When my Dad died, 20 years after my Mother, I had to buy a plot/grave for him because the grave my sister and Mother are in is full. 2) Different Religious Affiliations - I have this with my Great-grandparents. Our Family is Roman Catholic, but my Great-grandmother is a Presbyterian. When she died she could not be buried in a Catholic Cemetery, she is buried in Northwood Cemetery as are her parents and sister (a non-sectarian cemetery). Her husband was Roman Catholic (and he remarried, but I don't know what would have happed if he did not remarry) and he is buried in Holy Redeemer Cemetery (a Roman Catholic Cemetery) along with his second wife, and 2 of his 5 children. I do not believe that the second reason would apply in your case since both Lawnview and Mt. Vernon Cemeteries are non-sectarian. Another possible reason could be financial, (they did not own their own graves), so when the first person died, in your case Jacob, may have been buried by his family, so they would put him in a family grave that they owned. So when his widow died, Dorothy, she may have been buried by her family in one of their family graves. I hope this helps. Dee -- Dee Kaelin Maialetti Philadelphia, Pa. ************** Listowner: KAELIN-L **************** Kaelin Ancestry Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kaelin/index.html **************** Genealogy Blog: Looking Into The Past http://lookingintothepast.blogspot.com/ -------------- Original message -------------- From: philly-roots-request@rootsweb.com > Today's Topics: > > 1. why wife and husband not buried together (ColumbusGuy) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:10:46 -0700 (PDT) > From: ColumbusGuy > Subject: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together > To: PHILLY-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <821870.23059.qm@web55105.mail.re4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi all, > I'm curious why a widow (who had not remarried) would not be burried by her > family with her previously deceased husband. > > A week or so ago I had been sent the death notice for one of the people I've > been researching, Dorothy Schmalzried, who died in 1935, 13 years after her > husband Jacob; the notice indicates that Dorothy was to be interred at the > Lawnview cemetery in Philadelphia. Today, I just received a death notice for > her husband Jacob Schmalzried. In the notice, it indicates he would be interred > at the Mount Vernon cemetery in Philadelphia. It lists his wife as Dorothy > Schmalzried, etc, etc. The info all matches, such that these death notices are > indeed of the husband and wife I'm researching. > > So, what struck me odd was that the husband , Jacob, was interred, not at the > Lawnview cemetery, but at Mount Vernon. This was totally unexpected. I just > assumed that if I contacted the Lawnview cemetery last week, they would have > told me Jacob was buried next to Dorothy. > > I guess it doesn't matter why. It just took me totally be surprise. > Rich > > >

    04/15/2007 11:28:26
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] Philadelphia Marriages prior to 1860
    2. Eugene Stackhouse
    3. Marriages prior to 1860 are in church records. The Civil War began in 1861. The marriage registration regulations had nothing to do with the war. Gene Stackhouse "24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not."Stephen Wright >From: Sandy0412@aol.com >Reply-To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com >To: PHILLY-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Phly-Rts] Philadelphia Marriages prior to 1860 >Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 12:49:43 EDT > >Hello, is anyone familiar with whether or not there are recordings of >Philadelphia marriages in registers prior to 1860, and if they are >available to >the public? I am aware that registers started being kept about 1860 as a >result of the civil war, however, I have many marriages to research between >1850 - >1860. Thanks for any help! Sincerely, > >Sandy Lovell > > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. > > >********* >Visit the threaded archives of this list: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS >********* > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/15/2007 11:07:24
    1. [Phly-Rts] Philadelphia Marriages prior to 1860
    2. Hello, is anyone familiar with whether or not there are recordings of Philadelphia marriages in registers prior to 1860, and if they are available to the public? I am aware that registers started being kept about 1860 as a result of the civil war, however, I have many marriages to research between 1850 - 1860. Thanks for any help! Sincerely, Sandy Lovell ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    04/15/2007 06:49:43
    1. [Phly-Rts] husband and wife buried in two cemeteries
    2. Two further suggestions on this: 1. In some Orthodox Jewish cemeteries even as late as the 1930s, men and women, even if married to each other, were never buried next to each other, because on the other side of the husband might be buried a man to whom the woman was not married. This "immorality" was avoided by having one row of graves for men and another row for women. And, as mentioned earlier, it was the custom not to buy specific plots in advance, but to fill the rows chronologically by burial date. 2. The sale of cemetery plots may be part of the fundraising effort for some churches. The widow may have changed churches (liked the minister better, or perhaps went to live with one of her children) and been sold a plot by a go-getter at the new church. Bert Herbert Lazerow Professor of Law, U. of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park, San Diego CA 92110 (619)260-4597, fax 619-260-2230

    04/15/2007 06:12:10
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] Why husband and wife buried separately
    2. Ann Marie
    3. My husband's grandmother is buried in a friends extra plot. Grandfather is buried in his family plot and there was no room for her. They could not afford to be buried together. >From: "Sandie Ville" <sville@rochester.rr.com> >Reply-To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com >To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Why husband and wife buried separately >Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 08:00:05 -0400 > >In my ggparents case, one was Catholic one was not, 2 seperate cemetaries. > >Sandie >----- Original Message ----- >From: <TCall2004@comcast.net> >To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:09 PM >Subject: [Phly-Rts] Why husband and wife buried separately > > > > Each family had their own plots? > > > >> Hi all, > >> I'm curious why a widow (who had not remarried) would not be burried by > >> her > >> family with her previously deceased husband. > >> > --------------------------------- > > > > > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > > ********* > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >********* >Visit the threaded archives of this list: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS >********* > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE

    04/15/2007 05:15:54
    1. [Phly-Rts] Walter RENCH, c1715-c1766, Ship Master
    2. Barry Chapman
    3. Capt. Walter Rench: 1753, Master, Brigantine 'Rebecca'; 1754-1759, Master, Brigantine 'William'; 1760; Master, 'Europa'. Sailed to and from Philadelphia to London, West Indies, Quebec and Halifax amongst other ports. Latest sailing found was1764, Master, Sloop 'Polly'. Believed to be the father of Sarah, Mrs. James Claypoole Jr., and Mary ('Polly'), Mrs. Jacob Rush (m. 1777). In 1772, after Walter Rench's death, his widow, daughter Mary Rush and unnamed younger son were living at Spruce St., Philadelphia. Does anyone know more about Capt. Rench and his family? Barry, Australia

    04/15/2007 03:04:29
    1. [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together
    2. My sister and brother-in-law will be buried in separate cemeteries even though they have been married for 48 years. He wants to be buried with his first wife, and that is OK with my sister. My Uncle and his wife are buried in different cemeteries. My Uncle was Protestant.and his wife was a Catholic. She died first, and his family did not want him buried in a Catholic Cemetery. <<Thanks all. Jacob was in fact married b4, but he and Dorothy were married 36 years. But I guess there can be all kinds of reasons.>> ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    04/15/2007 02:55:30
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] Why husband and wife buried separately
    2. Sandie Ville
    3. In my ggparents case, one was Catholic one was not, 2 seperate cemetaries. Sandie ----- Original Message ----- From: <TCall2004@comcast.net> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:09 PM Subject: [Phly-Rts] Why husband and wife buried separately > Each family had their own plots? > >> Hi all, >> I'm curious why a widow (who had not remarried) would not be burried by >> her >> family with her previously deceased husband. >> > --------------------------------- > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/15/2007 02:00:05
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together
    2. larzemail
    3. I too was surprised the first time this happened. One couple had divorced (though most of the family hadn't known this & the census never indicated it), another had a husband who simply disappeared & the brother of his wife buried her in his family plot, another couple had the husband buried in a cemetery that closed with the wife being buried in a new cemetery many years later, and yet another couple was buried separately with each ancestor being buried by a family member who had funds enough to provide for the burials. I'm learning that this is not so unusual a practice, and even very recently (this generation) we had to deal with this when unexpected deaths in the family caused us to look into how to try to keep family together in spite of high burial costs and limited space in existing family plots. ColumbusGuy <plugnplaycmh@yahoo.com> wrote: I'm curious why a widow (who had not remarried) would not be burried by her family with her previously deceased husband. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

    04/15/2007 01:07:07
    1. [Phly-Rts] Why husband and wife buried separately
    2. Each family had their own plots? > Hi all, > I'm curious why a widow (who had not remarried) would not be burried by her > family with her previously deceased husband. > ---------------------------------

    04/14/2007 09:09:54
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together
    2. 1. Many people were buried by benevolent societies in the 20th century. People were buried in the order in which they died and no spaces were saved for spouses. My great grandfather was buried in one cemetery, the benevolent society who buried him ran out of spaces and when my great grandmother died there was no space for her and she was buried elsewhere. 2. My friend's father died and was buried in one cemetery. Years later her mother became ill and went to live with my friend. My friend didn't want to leave the arrangements until her mother died, knowing how emotional she would be, so she made pre-arrangements. The same funeral home that had buried her father listed the cemetery on the contract and my friend, without thinking, signed it. When her mother died, she realized the mistake. To have her mother buried with her father would have been an additional $1000 so her parents are buried in two different cemeteries. Anyone researching this family in the future would never guess the reason. The truth is stranger than fiction. Merle -----Original Message----- From: plugnplaycmh@yahoo.com To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together Thanks all. Jacob was in fact married b4, but he and Dorothy were married 36 years. But I guess there can be all kinds of reasons. Guess that will teach me to assume something. My parents will kind of be the reverse of this. They have been divorced for 30 years, neither remarried, and they still plan to be buried together. And I thought they would never get back together. lol JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/14/2007 6:11:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, plugnplaycmh@yahoo.com writes: I'm curious why a widow (who had not remarried) would not be burried by her family with her previously deceased husband. Rich- I can think of several possible reasons that I've run into in my family. 1) my grandmother was a second wife and even though she was married to my grandfather for nearly 50 years, and the first wife died after only a few years of marriage, my grandfather is buried with the first wife and my grandmother is buried in her parents' plot. 2) my great-great-grandmother is buried in a cemetery that hadn't been opened yet when he husband died years earlier. Her husband is buried in an older cemetery. I assume by the time my 2nd great-grandmother died the family elected to bury her in my great-grandfather's family plot because there was space there and the plot was paid for. 3) one of my 2nd great-grandfathers' is buried in a plot allocated for patients who died in the county Alms House while his wife who died earlier is buried in the family plot. Joan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

    04/14/2007 02:53:28
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together
    2. In a message dated 4/14/2007 6:11:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, plugnplaycmh@yahoo.com writes: I'm curious why a widow (who had not remarried) would not be burried by her family with her previously deceased husband. Rich- I can think of several possible reasons that I've run into in my family. 1) my grandmother was a second wife and even though she was married to my grandfather for nearly 50 years, and the first wife died after only a few years of marriage, my grandfather is buried with the first wife and my grandmother is buried in her parents' plot. 2) my great-great-grandmother is buried in a cemetery that hadn't been opened yet when he husband died years earlier. Her husband is buried in an older cemetery. I assume by the time my 2nd great-grandmother died the family elected to bury her in my great-grandfather's family plot because there was space there and the plot was paid for. 3) one of my 2nd great-grandfathers' is buried in a plot allocated for patients who died in the county Alms House while his wife who died earlier is buried in the family plot. Joan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    04/14/2007 12:58:11
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together
    2. Another possiblity - one was a Catholic and buried in a Catholic cemetery. The other was Protestant. I am thinking this may be the case in regard to my 3-great grandparents JOHN FIELD & ERNESTINE ABERCROMBIE. She is buried with a family (still researching family) in a Catholic cemetery and her husband's burial place is unknown. He died sometime bet. 1867-70 PA., and she died in 1890 Philadelphia. Jacqueline Sleeper Russell Website: _http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surn ame=A_ (http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surname=A) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    04/14/2007 12:36:31
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together
    2. SouthPawPhilly
    3. In our family our grandfather, who outlived his wife, didn't want to be buried with his wife. He purchased a plot in another community and was buried there. On 4/14/07, Dee Thompson <d7777@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > Hi Rich, > > Possibilities: > 1. She was married before Jacob and is buried beside her first husband and > possibly even children from that first marriage. > 2. She is buried with her parents (family mausoleum, family area in > cemetery) > 3. Jacob is buried with his first wife. > 4. A child of Jacob & Dorothy who died unexpectedly is buried in the grave > intended for Dorothy. > 5. She only could afford a single grave when Jacob died and left it up to > relatives where she would be buried. > > Pure guesses - good luck. > Dee >

    04/14/2007 12:34:11
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together
    2. Dee Thompson
    3. Hi Rich, Possibilities: 1. She was married before Jacob and is buried beside her first husband and possibly even children from that first marriage. 2. She is buried with her parents (family mausoleum, family area in cemetery) 3. Jacob is buried with his first wife. 4. A child of Jacob & Dorothy who died unexpectedly is buried in the grave intended for Dorothy. 5. She only could afford a single grave when Jacob died and left it up to relatives where she would be buried. Pure guesses - good luck. Dee For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for lookups refer to this Link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm   -----Original Message----- From: philly-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:philly-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ColumbusGuy Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:11 PM To: PHILLY-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together Hi all, I'm curious why a widow (who had not remarried) would not be burried by her family with her previously deceased husband. A week or so ago I had been sent the death notice for one of the people I've been researching, Dorothy Schmalzried, who died in 1935, 13 years after her husband Jacob; the notice indicates that Dorothy was to be interred at the Lawnview cemetery in Philadelphia. Today, I just received a death notice for her husband Jacob Schmalzried. In the notice, it indicates he would be interred at the Mount Vernon cemetery in Philadelphia. It lists his wife as Dorothy Schmalzried, etc, etc. The info all matches, such that these death notices are indeed of the husband and wife I'm researching. So, what struck me odd was that the husband , Jacob, was interred, not at the Lawnview cemetery, but at Mount Vernon. This was totally unexpected. I just assumed that if I contacted the Lawnview cemetery last week, they would have told me Jacob was buried next to Dorothy. I guess it doesn't matter why. It just took me totally be surprise. Rich --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/14/2007 12:26:21
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] Orphans Court info
    2. J SCHWARTZ
    3. You should fight this if you feel you were explicit on the first request that you wanted Orphans Court records researched, not wills. I would call the Register of Wills and ask for a refund of the initial charge if it was clear from your letter what you were after. As for the $8 per page charge, at the risk of getting myself in trouble, I would not take anything she says as gospel. She has given me incorrect information several times. If someone on the list knows of a recent price increase, or a different price per page for mail requests, I will certainly defer to them. It seems that you weren't charged anything for the retrieval of these files, which goes against the protocols that used to be in place too, so I'm totally confused. Maybe they dropped the retrieval fee and raised the printing price? I'm going to drop in and find out in person. jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Davis" <kaydavis2@hotmail.com> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 06:07 PM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Orphans Court info > Yes, Jo, the charge is $8/pg. She told me it was $8/pg and then said the > file contained three pages and I'd need to send a check for $24.00. I > mentioned I'd already spent $15.00 in an attempt to obtain the records > through the Register of Wills but was told the prior fee was not applicable. > The woman's name is Diane. > Kay > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "J SCHWARTZ" <phillysleuth@verizon.net> > Reply-To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com > To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Orphans Court info > Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:15:15 -0400 > > Kay, are you absolutely sure the charges are $8 a page? I would really > recheck that figure. They NEVER have been that expensive in all the time > I've been dealing with them. It was more like $2-$3 a page. > > jo > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kay Davis" <kaydavis2@hotmail.com> > To: <PHILLY-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:27 AM > Subject: [Phly-Rts] Orphans Court info > > > > As a follow-up to my earlier query regarding Orphans Court records, I > > contacted them via snail mail with docket/file number, name, date, etc. > > Someone from their office called just a few days later to tell me the > > records have been retrieved and when my check is received the file will > be > > sent to me. Here's the heads'-up: the charge is $8.00/page for > > photocopying. I was given no information on the contents of the file (I > > asked) so just blindly send in the money and keep your fingers crossed > the > > informatiion will have some value. Thanks to all who offered help and > good > > luck. > > Kay in California > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. > > > http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapr > il07 > > > > > > > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > > ********* > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date: 04/10/2007 > 10:44 PM > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date: 04/10/2007 > 10:44 PM > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Interest Rates Fall Again! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new > payment > http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-18679&moid=7581 > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date: 04/10/2007 10:44 PM > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date: 04/10/2007 10:44 PM

    04/14/2007 12:25:53
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together
    2. Kay Davis
    3. If it had been a stormy marriage, it's very possible she instructed her family she didn't want to be placed beside him. Kay in CA ----Original Message Follows---- From: ColumbusGuy <plugnplaycmh@yahoo.com> Reply-To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com To: PHILLY-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Hi all, I'm curious why a widow (who had not remarried) would not be burried by her family with her previously deceased husband. A week or so ago I had been sent the death notice for one of the people I've been researching, Dorothy Schmalzried, who died in 1935, 13 years after her husband Jacob; the notice indicates that Dorothy was to be interred at the Lawnview cemetery in Philadelphia. Today, I just received a death notice for her husband Jacob Schmalzried. In the notice, it indicates he would be interred at the Mount Vernon cemetery in Philadelphia. It lists his wife as Dorothy Schmalzried, etc, etc. The info all matches, such that these death notices are indeed of the husband and wife I'm researching. So, what struck me odd was that the husband , Jacob, was interred, not at the Lawnview cemetery, but at Mount Vernon. This was totally unexpected. I just assumed that if I contacted the Lawnview cemetery last week, they would have told me Jacob was buried next to Dorothy. I guess it doesn't matter why. It just took me totally be surprise. Rich --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag3

    04/14/2007 11:58:48
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together
    2. John Hogg
    3. I have had a similar case and the plot was just full when she died. Husband buried at Old Cathedral and Wife at Holy Cross John -----Original Message----- From: philly-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:philly-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ColumbusGuy Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:11 PM To: PHILLY-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together Hi all, I'm curious why a widow (who had not remarried) would not be burried by her family with her previously deceased husband.

    04/14/2007 11:50:36
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] why wife and husband not buried together
    2. ColumbusGuy
    3. Thanks all. Jacob was in fact married b4, but he and Dorothy were married 36 years. But I guess there can be all kinds of reasons. Guess that will teach me to assume something. My parents will kind of be the reverse of this. They have been divorced for 30 years, neither remarried, and they still plan to be buried together. And I thought they would never get back together. lol JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/14/2007 6:11:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, plugnplaycmh@yahoo.com writes: I'm curious why a widow (who had not remarried) would not be burried by her family with her previously deceased husband. Rich- I can think of several possible reasons that I've run into in my family. 1) my grandmother was a second wife and even though she was married to my grandfather for nearly 50 years, and the first wife died after only a few years of marriage, my grandfather is buried with the first wife and my grandmother is buried in her parents' plot. 2) my great-great-grandmother is buried in a cemetery that hadn't been opened yet when he husband died years earlier. Her husband is buried in an older cemetery. I assume by the time my 2nd great-grandmother died the family elected to bury her in my great-grandfather's family plot because there was space there and the plot was paid for. 3) one of my 2nd great-grandfathers' is buried in a plot allocated for patients who died in the county Alms House while his wife who died earlier is buried in the family plot. Joan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

    04/14/2007 10:06:18
    1. Re: [Phly-Rts] Orphans Court info
    2. J SCHWARTZ
    3. Kay, are you absolutely sure the charges are $8 a page? I would really recheck that figure. They NEVER have been that expensive in all the time I've been dealing with them. It was more like $2-$3 a page. jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Davis" <kaydavis2@hotmail.com> To: <PHILLY-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: [Phly-Rts] Orphans Court info > As a follow-up to my earlier query regarding Orphans Court records, I > contacted them via snail mail with docket/file number, name, date, etc. > Someone from their office called just a few days later to tell me the > records have been retrieved and when my check is received the file will be > sent to me. Here's the heads'-up: the charge is $8.00/page for > photocopying. I was given no information on the contents of the file (I > asked) so just blindly send in the money and keep your fingers crossed the > informatiion will have some value. Thanks to all who offered help and good > luck. > Kay in California > > _________________________________________________________________ > Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. > http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapr il07 > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date: 04/10/2007 10:44 PM > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date: 04/10/2007 10:44 PM

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