Hi, My interest lies in my 4 x great-grandfather, William Davy (1757-1827), an English born Philadelphia merchant, who became an American Citizen and later Principal agent for the Indian Factories under the Jefferson administration, before retiring to England as a Consul of the United States for Leeds and Kingston upon Hull (it must be quite rare for an Englishman to have American ancestors - usually the other way round !). The son of a Devonshire (England) cloth manufacturer, William Davy was born in Crediton in 1757. He was at first a presbyterian, then a unitarian and seems to have been a friend of Joseph Priestley. He emigrated to Pennsylvania with his wife, children and several sisters on the ship "Active", which arrived in Philadelphia on 15 August 1794. He first travelled to Northumberland County where he stayed with the Priestleys (September to November 1794). He Kept a diary of his trip, which was published in "Pennsylvania History" (Vol. XX, April 1953). On his return to Philadelphia, he wrote a long letter to George Washington, proposing to set up cloth manufactures and make uniforms for the new American Army (George Washington Papers, Library of Congress). He was naturalised on August 31, 1796. In 1797, he was alredy in business in Philadelphia with Josiah Roberts (from Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England - who later married William Davy's sister), under the name "Davy, Roberts and Co". Davy and Roberts started a calico printing firm in Germantown Road (The Pennsylvania Magazine of History and Biography). >From at least 1797, William Davy, owned or chartered many ships. In about 1800, he fitted out the privateer "Alexander", captained by his son John Broom Davy, who captured several French ships. He imported sugar and cigars from Cuba (Brig "Angustus"), India goods (silk, sugar, spices...) from Calcutta (ships "Monticello" and "Coromandel"), Earth oil (petrol) and elephant tusks from Burma (ship "Coromandel), rum from St. Vincent and the Grenadines (schooner "Sukey and Peggy"), coffee from La Guaira, Venezuela (schooner "Three Friends")... He exported hides to England and guns to Simon Bolivar. I know that he received invitations in 1804 and 1805 to dine with President Thomas Jefferson in Washington (Pennsylvania History, Vol. XX, April 1953, p. 277) and that Mr. and Mrs James Madison entertained him in 1805 (Pennsylvania History, Vol. XX, April 1953, p. 277). Suddenly, in 1817, he applied for an appointment in the U.S. consular service and returned to England where he died in 1827. William Davy and his wife, Susannah Broom, had 14 children, but, for the moment I only know the names of 10. Several moved to England with their parents. Albert Davy and Josiah Davy were both in the consular service in Leeds. At least 3 sons remained in America. John Broom Davy was, for a few years, consul of the U.S.A. in Rangoon, Burma, and died in Bordentown, New Jersey in 1822. William Davy Junior died in 1822 in Cartagena, Colombia. Thomas Davy, an agent for DuPont de Nemours, spent over 10 years in Cienfuegos, Cuba, where he died in 1830. I have no idea if there are any descendants in America. I know that at least 3 children (probably more) were born in Philadelphia, but so far, I have been unable to find any baptisms (I suppose that they were baptised as Unitarians or Presbyterians). John Broom Davy married Harriet Bridges in 1804 in Philadelphia and Thomas Davy married Elizabeth Loockermans of Delaware... I have a few addresses of William Davy's businesses in Philadelphia (59 South Water Street ; Germantown Road ; wharves in Water Street ; Cypress Alley, between Spruce and Pine, and 3d and 4th Streets ; 32 Dock Street and 356 High), but I have only been able to check 2 Philadelphia directories for the period. I have been unable to find a will for any of the Davys in England. Where can I look in Pennsylvania ? Any further information about William Davy, his business... and the Davy family would be most appreciated. Roderick Craig, Mulhouse, France. _________________________________________________________________ Personnalisez votre Messenger avec Live.com http://www.windowslive.fr/livecom/

Wills are at the Register of Wills in City Hall, Philadelphia and, maybe, the LDS. Gene Stackhouse "24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not."Stephen Wright >From: "Roderick Craig" <rodjcraig@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com >To: PHILLY-ROOTS@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Phly-Rts] William Davy, Philadelphia Merchant (1794-1817) >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:28:44 +0200 > >Hi, > >My interest lies in my 4 x great-grandfather, William Davy (1757-1827), an >English born Philadelphia merchant, who became an American Citizen and >later >Principal agent for the Indian Factories under the Jefferson >administration, >before retiring to England as a Consul of the United States for Leeds and >Kingston upon Hull (it must be quite rare for an Englishman to have >American >ancestors - usually the other way round !). > >The son of a Devonshire (England) cloth manufacturer, William Davy was born >in Crediton in 1757. He was at first a presbyterian, then a unitarian and >seems to have been a friend of Joseph Priestley. He emigrated to >Pennsylvania with his wife, children and several sisters on the ship >"Active", which arrived in Philadelphia on 15 August 1794. He first >travelled to Northumberland County where he stayed with the Priestleys >(September to November 1794). He Kept a diary of his trip, which was >published in "Pennsylvania History" (Vol. XX, April 1953). >On his return to Philadelphia, he wrote a long letter to George Washington, >proposing to set up cloth manufactures and make uniforms for the new >American Army (George Washington Papers, Library of Congress). He was >naturalised on August 31, 1796. > >In 1797, he was alredy in business in Philadelphia with Josiah Roberts >(from >Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England - who later married William Davy's >sister), under the name "Davy, Roberts and Co". Davy and Roberts started a >calico printing firm in Germantown Road (The Pennsylvania Magazine of >History and Biography). > > >From at least 1797, William Davy, owned or chartered many ships. In about >1800, he fitted out the privateer "Alexander", captained by his son John >Broom Davy, who captured several French ships. He imported sugar and cigars >from Cuba (Brig "Angustus"), India goods (silk, sugar, spices...) from >Calcutta (ships "Monticello" and "Coromandel"), Earth oil (petrol) and >elephant tusks from Burma (ship "Coromandel), rum from St. Vincent and the >Grenadines (schooner "Sukey and Peggy"), coffee from La Guaira, Venezuela >(schooner "Three Friends")... He exported hides to England and guns to >Simon >Bolivar. > >I know that he received invitations in 1804 and 1805 to dine with President >Thomas Jefferson in Washington (Pennsylvania History, Vol. XX, April 1953, >p. 277) and that Mr. and Mrs James Madison entertained him in 1805 >(Pennsylvania History, Vol. XX, April 1953, p. 277). > >Suddenly, in 1817, he applied for an appointment in the U.S. consular >service and returned to England where he died in 1827. > >William Davy and his wife, Susannah Broom, had 14 children, but, for the >moment I only know the names of 10. Several moved to England with their >parents. Albert Davy and Josiah Davy were both in the consular service in >Leeds. At least 3 sons remained in America. John Broom Davy was, for a few >years, consul of the U.S.A. in Rangoon, Burma, and died in Bordentown, New >Jersey in 1822. William Davy Junior died in 1822 in Cartagena, Colombia. >Thomas Davy, an agent for DuPont de Nemours, spent over 10 years in >Cienfuegos, Cuba, where he died in 1830. I have no idea if there are any >descendants in America. > >I know that at least 3 children (probably more) were born in Philadelphia, >but so far, I have been unable to find any baptisms (I suppose that they >were baptised as Unitarians or Presbyterians). John Broom Davy married >Harriet Bridges in 1804 in Philadelphia and Thomas Davy married Elizabeth >Loockermans of Delaware... > >I have a few addresses of William Davy's businesses in Philadelphia (59 >South Water Street ; Germantown Road ; wharves in Water Street ; Cypress >Alley, between Spruce and Pine, and 3d and 4th Streets ; 32 Dock Street >and >356 High), but I have only been able to check 2 Philadelphia directories >for >the period. > >I have been unable to find a will for any of the Davys in England. Where >can >I look in Pennsylvania ? > >Any further information about William Davy, his business... and the Davy >family would be most appreciated. > >Roderick Craig, >Mulhouse, France. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Personnalisez votre Messenger avec Live.com >http://www.windowslive.fr/livecom/ > > > >********* >Visit the threaded archives of this list: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS >********* > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had quite a few people removed from American Mechanics. They were all moved to Philadelphia Memorial Park in Frazer, PA. Call 1-610-644-9150. They are very helpful. -----Original Message----- From: larzemail@yahoo.com To: PA-PHILA-CEMETERIES@rootsweb.com; PHILLY-ROOTS@rootsweb.com; paphilad@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 1:57 PM Subject: [Phly-Rts] American Mechanics Cemetery: comment & a question In returning a research favor for someone, I visited HSP to view the Palmer Vault records. They were disappointing, as only a few years of the vault were covered, but those records that were available for the cemetery in earier years were quite helpful. Since that didn't work out, I knew this person had one ancestor buried in American Mechanics, and I took a look there. These records are excellent! There are 3 sets available, all at HSP--don't know if they are found elsewhere--and you can search by surname in alphabetical order, by plot card, and by the actual register. The register pages that I viewed were from 1859 & 1899, and they had similar info to that found in death registers. One question that I do have: how might I learn what became of folks who were disinterred? It appears that all were moved in 1951, but only one that I looked up of about 20 had a note of where they were moved to. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

I am not certain that Greenwood records are at the LDS. They are at the Historical Society of PA and can be searched by the Friends of Greenwood Cemetery. The Friends has a Webpage. Gene Stackhouse "24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not."Stephen Wright >From: larzemail <larzemail@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: larzemail@yahoo.com, philly-roots@rootsweb.com >To: philly-roots@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Joseph Sweet (ca 1816-1889) >Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:49:22 -0700 (PDT) > >One other suggestion: have you learned who is buried with Joseph? You >might find that his parents or siblings are buried with him; in that case, >it may lead to at the very least more clues. Have you checked the >Greenwood Cemetery records? I believe they are available on film by the >LDS; they are on permanent loan at the FHC I use (unless I'm confusing them >w/a similarly named cemetery). > >Eugene Stackhouse <genestackhouse@yahoo.com> wrote: Ancestry.com has the >1820 census as does the National >Archives and the LDS. >However, children aren't listed. >Your best source is church records, possibly also >wills. The LDS may have some of these records. > >--- Larry wrote: > > > I am trying to find the parents of Joseph Sweet. > > Joseph SWEET was born about 1816 in Philadelphia, > > Pennsylvania. He was buried on March 24, 1889 in > > Greenwood Cemetery (Knights of Pythias > > Cemetery)-Philadelphia, PA. Is 1820 censu data > > available somewhere? Help? > >--------------------------------- >Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > >********* >Visit the threaded archives of this list: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS >********* > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From: "Eugene Glenn Stackhouse" <genestackhouse@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: Germantown@yahoogroups.com >To: Germantown@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Germantown] House Numbers in Germantown >Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:38:02 -0000 > >HOUSE NUMBERS IN GERMANTOWNM MT. AIRY & CHESTNUT HILL >by Jefferson Moak, "Germantown Crier" A Publication of the >Germantown Historical Society >Volume 52, #1, Spring 2002 >Exerpt >"Prior to 1856/57, there was no break in the nubers to allow for >street crossings. In 1856, to be effective in 1857, the system of >the 00 block, 100 block, etc. took effect. ... >Generally, the entire city was renumbered under the Ordinance of >1856. However, two additional massive renumbering projects were >undertaken by the Board of Revision of Taxes in the late 19th >century. The first, in the early 1880s, involved Kensington in which >the present system was installed. The second occurred in the early >1890s in Germantown, Mt. Airy and Chestnut Hill." >From the published chart: > 1889 1899 >Berkley 4200 4600 >Wyalusing 4300 4700 >Loudon 4400 4800 >Logan 4436 4900 >Seymour 4500 5000 >Manheim 4552 5100 >Collum 4600 5141 >Ashmead 4615 5200 >Queen Lane 4650 5300 >Penn Street 4700 5322 >Coulter 4740 5400 >School House 4800 5500 >Maplewood 4834 5600 >Chelten 4900 5700 >Price 4932 5800 >Rittenhouse 5000 5900 >Harvey 5046 6000 >Walnut Lane 5100 6100 >Tulpehocken 5150 6200 >Washington Ln 5200 6300 >Johnson 5300 6400 >Upsal 5352 6500 >Sharpnack East 5400 6600 >Horter West 5426 6600 >Phil-Ellena East 5471 6700 >Westview West 5500 6700 >Pleasant 5539 6800 >Carpenter L.-Gorgas 5550 6900 >Sedgwick 5600 7000 >Mt. Pleasant 5640 7100 >Mt. Airy 5700 7200 >Allens Lane 5730 7300 >Gowen 5800 7400 > >The only known reconciliation of old and new numbers in Chestnut >Hill: > >Mermaid Lane 6000 7700 >Moreland Ave. 6050 7800 >Springfield Ave6100 7900 > >The odd and even sides had been reversed from what they are >today. > >Gene Stackhouse >Volunteer, Germantown Historical Society > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > ><*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Germantown/ > ><*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > ><*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Germantown/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > ><*> To change settings via email: > mailto:Germantown-digest@yahoogroups.com > mailto:Germantown-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com > ><*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Germantown-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > ><*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

Very, very nice. I thank you, Jacqueline. I was way off in my estimate of the marriage! Vince On 4/27/07, Jackisr@aol.com <Jackisr@aol.com> wrote: > > In a message dated 4/27/2007 3:59:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > vsummers@gmail.com writes: > > Hi! > > I have to run at the moment, but I made some quick finds after > work! > > >From a partial sentence from a newspaper article excerpt, I > found out that: > > 1. Randolph SAILER married Mary FAIRMAN. > =============================================== > Found this item in _www.books.google.com_ (http://www.books.google.com) > > > _Princeton Alumni Weekly - Page 340_ > (http://books.google.com/books?id=CoIhAAAAMAAJ&q=Randolph+SAILER+&+Mary+FAIRMAN.&dq=Randolph+SAILER+&+Mary+FAIRMAN.&ie= > ISO-8859-1) > by Princeton University - 1900 > •92 Randolph Sailer ex-*92 and Miss Mary ... Fairman were married in St. > Stephen's Church, Philadelphia, on Nov. 26. '93 Rev. ... > Snippet view - _About this book_ > (http://books.google.com/books?id=CoIhAAAAMAAJ&dq=Randolph+SAILER+&+Mary+FAIRMAN.&ie=ISO-8859-1) > ========================================= > > Jacqueline Sleeper Russell > Website: > > _http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surn > ame=A_ > (http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surname=A) > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In returning a research favor for someone, I visited HSP to view the Palmer Vault records. They were disappointing, as only a few years of the vault were covered, but those records that were available for the cemetery in earier years were quite helpful. Since that didn't work out, I knew this person had one ancestor buried in American Mechanics, and I took a look there. These records are excellent! There are 3 sets available, all at HSP--don't know if they are found elsewhere--and you can search by surname in alphabetical order, by plot card, and by the actual register. The register pages that I viewed were from 1859 & 1899, and they had similar info to that found in death registers. One question that I do have: how might I learn what became of folks who were disinterred? It appears that all were moved in 1951, but only one that I looked up of about 20 had a note of where they were moved to. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

One other suggestion: have you learned who is buried with Joseph? You might find that his parents or siblings are buried with him; in that case, it may lead to at the very least more clues. Have you checked the Greenwood Cemetery records? I believe they are available on film by the LDS; they are on permanent loan at the FHC I use (unless I'm confusing them w/a similarly named cemetery). Eugene Stackhouse <genestackhouse@yahoo.com> wrote: Ancestry.com has the 1820 census as does the National Archives and the LDS. However, children aren't listed. Your best source is church records, possibly also wills. The LDS may have some of these records. --- Larry wrote: > I am trying to find the parents of Joseph Sweet. > Joseph SWEET was born about 1816 in Philadelphia, > Pennsylvania. He was buried on March 24, 1889 in > Greenwood Cemetery (Knights of Pythias > Cemetery)-Philadelphia, PA. Is 1820 censu data > available somewhere? Help? --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

I am trying to find the parents of Joseph Sweet. Joseph SWEET was born about 1816 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He was buried on March 24, 1889 in Greenwood Cemetery (Knights of Pythias Cemetery)-Philadelphia, PA. Is 1820 censu data available somewhere? Help? 1860 U. S. CENSUS: 20th Ward, 1st Division, Philadelphia City, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania; 31 July 1860; Page 439 (written), Page 437 (stamped), Dwelling 2805, Family 3091: Joseph Sweet 44 M W tailor PA --Elizabeth 31 F W England --Francis 15 M W PA --Catherine 9 F W PA --William 5 M W PA Miller, Thomas 27 M W plasterer PA ============================================ Larry D. Loiselle, ditvenet@hotmail.com 19967 Blake Manor Road Manor, Texas 78653 512-272-5770

Ancestry.com has the 1820 census as does the National Archives and the LDS. However, children aren't listed. Your best source is church records, possibly also wills. The LDS may have some of these records. --- Larry <ditvenet@ezsg.com> wrote: > I am trying to find the parents of Joseph Sweet. > Joseph SWEET was born about 1816 in Philadelphia, > Pennsylvania. He was buried on March 24, 1889 in > Greenwood Cemetery (Knights of Pythias > Cemetery)-Philadelphia, PA. Is 1820 censu data > available somewhere? Help? > > 1860 U. S. CENSUS: 20th Ward, 1st Division, > Philadelphia City, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania; > 31 July 1860; Page 439 (written), Page 437 > (stamped), Dwelling 2805, Family 3091: > > Joseph Sweet 44 M W tailor PA > --Elizabeth 31 F W > England > --Francis 15 M W PA > --Catherine 9 F W PA > --William 5 M W PA > Miller, Thomas 27 M W plasterer PA > > ============================================ > Larry D. Loiselle, ditvenet@hotmail.com > 19967 Blake Manor Road > Manor, Texas 78653 > 512-272-5770 > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > Gene Stackhouse: I hate global warming. It's much too cold! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

In a message dated 4/27/2007 7:22:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, chrismomxyz@yahoo.com writes: Hi- This may be a silly question, but did you find her mother after 1850? or living with her brothers? I am working on my FIL's great grandfather, who I can only find in 1910 and 1920, nothing up to that point on the census records, so I understand the frustration. Kate Dear KATE, I only found SARAH FIELD in one census - 1850. I found her parents (JOHN FIELD & ERNESTINE ABERCROMBIE and their 2 sons) in 1860 (Camden, NJ) US census and her mother in 1870 (Philadelphia) US census & 1875 PCD and then her (ERNESTINE's) death notice in 1890 in Philadelphia Inquirer. I then found entire family buried in Holy Cross Cemetery along with the family of PHILBERT & MARY MATHIEU of Philadelphia. My point in sharing the death record was to show that even if you cannot find a person in census records they may have live longer than you suspect they did and did not marry as also suspected. Jacqueline Sleeper Russell Website: _http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surn ame=A_ (http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surname=A) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

All I could remember was that he had something to do with it in some shape and form.......... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liane Fenimore" <lfenimore@columbus.rr.com> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Police > Well, there was so much too-ing and froing across the Atlantic, Peel may > well have come. > > Liane > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Lynch" <onecrazychick@comcast.net> > To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:27 AM > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Police > > >> Thats basically it...........my memory was vague about it! Thanks >> Liane!! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Liane Fenimore" <lfenimore@columbus.rr.com> >> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Police >> >> >>> Here is some history from the Phila police department. >>> >>> http://www.ppdonline.org/hq_history.php >>> >>> The modern force was started in 1850, Sir Robert Peel died that year in >>> England (b 1788). I don't see that he came to the U.S. - he was a >>> British >>> Prime Minister, 1834-5 then 1841-6, and member of parliament who is >>> considered the father of modern policing. They may have used his >>> principles >>> in forming the Phila force. >>> >>> LIane >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Barbara Lynch" <onecrazychick@comcast.net> >>> To: <larzemail@yahoo.com>; <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:28 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Police >>> >>> >>>> An interesting start would be to do some research on Sir Robert >>>> Peel........he started the first police department I believe in >>>> Philadelphia.......... >>> >>> >>> >>> ********* >>> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS >>> ********* >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ********* >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS >> ********* >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

SARAH FIELD is buried with her mother ERNESTINE (ABERCROMBIE) PEARSON FIELD and the family of PHILBERT & MARY MATHIEU in Holy Cross Cemetery. Only found her in 1 census. 1850. Thought she must have died or married. She did neither but managed to elude census taker after 1850. ============================================== CERTIFICATE OF DEATH No. 10419 No. 1345 Full Name: SARAH FIELD Date of Birth: 1831 Age: 88 Status: single Occupation: Saleswoman Place of Birth: Philadelphia Name of Father: JOHN FIELD Birthplace of Father: Philadelphia Name of Mother: ERNESTINE ABERCROMBIE Birthplace of Mother: Philadelphia Informant: C. MATHIEU Date of Death: Jan. 14, 1918 Name of Institution/Hospital: Philadelphia General Cause: Chronic Myocarditis Physician: Cannot read Length of residence: 3 mos. 7 days Former residence: 828 No. 19 St. Burial Place: Holy Cross Cemetery Date: Jan 17th, 1918 Undertaker: KATHRYN G. MACPHERSON, 3404 Walnut St. (Vital Records copy #4072700 dated April 18, 2007) ================================================================ PHILADELPHIA ARCHDIOCESAN HISTORICAL RESEARCH CENTER (received 12-27-04) REGISTERS OF ST. AUGUSTINE - Full and complete transcriptions. SARAH CATHERINE FIELD born January 29, 1831 baptized February 20, 1831 - ST. AUGUSTINE Church Parents: JOHN FIELD and ERNESTINA ABERCROMBIE Sponsors: JOHN PEARSON and CATHERINE FIELD =========================== 1850 United States Federal Census Record Name: John Field Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1790 Birth place: Pennsylvania Gender: Male Bart, Lancaster, Pennsylvania HOUSEHOLD: JOHN FIELD - age 60 - Farmer, property worth $1000, born in PA. (born abt. 1790) ERNESTINE FIELD - wife - age 54 -born in PA. (born abt. 1796) SARAH FIELD - daughter - age 19 - b. in PA. (born abt. 1831) CHARLES - son - age 16 - b. in PA. (born abt. 1834) THEODORE - son - age 12 - b. in PA. (born abt 1838) ==================================== Jacqueline Sleeper Russell Website: _http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surn ame=A_ (http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surname=A) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Well, there was so much too-ing and froing across the Atlantic, Peel may well have come. Liane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Lynch" <onecrazychick@comcast.net> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:27 AM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Police > Thats basically it...........my memory was vague about it! Thanks Liane!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Liane Fenimore" <lfenimore@columbus.rr.com> > To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Police > > >> Here is some history from the Phila police department. >> >> http://www.ppdonline.org/hq_history.php >> >> The modern force was started in 1850, Sir Robert Peel died that year in >> England (b 1788). I don't see that he came to the U.S. - he was a >> British >> Prime Minister, 1834-5 then 1841-6, and member of parliament who is >> considered the father of modern policing. They may have used his >> principles >> in forming the Phila force. >> >> LIane >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barbara Lynch" <onecrazychick@comcast.net> >> To: <larzemail@yahoo.com>; <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Police >> >> >>> An interesting start would be to do some research on Sir Robert >>> Peel........he started the first police department I believe in >>> Philadelphia.......... >> >> >> >> ********* >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS >> ********* >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi- This may be a silly question, but did you find her mother after 1850? or living with her brothers? I am working on my FIL's great grandfather, who I can only find in 1910 and 1920, nothing up to that point on the census records, so I understand the frustration. Kate Jackisr@aol.com wrote: SARAH FIELD is buried with her mother ERNESTINE (ABERCROMBIE) PEARSON FIELD and the family of PHILBERT & MARY MATHIEU in Holy Cross Cemetery. Only found her in 1 census. 1850. Thought she must have died or married. She did neither but managed to elude census taker after 1850. ============================================== CERTIFICATE OF DEATH No. 10419 No. 1345 Full Name: SARAH FIELD Date of Birth: 1831 Age: 88 Status: single Occupation: Saleswoman Place of Birth: Philadelphia Name of Father: JOHN FIELD Birthplace of Father: Philadelphia Name of Mother: ERNESTINE ABERCROMBIE Birthplace of Mother: Philadelphia Informant: C. MATHIEU Date of Death: Jan. 14, 1918 Name of Institution/Hospital: Philadelphia General Cause: Chronic Myocarditis Physician: Cannot read Length of residence: 3 mos. 7 days Former residence: 828 No. 19 St. Burial Place: Holy Cross Cemetery Date: Jan 17th, 1918 Undertaker: KATHRYN G. MACPHERSON, 3404 Walnut St. (Vital Records copy #4072700 dated April 18, 2007) ================================================================ PHILADELPHIA ARCHDIOCESAN HISTORICAL RESEARCH CENTER (received 12-27-04) REGISTERS OF ST. AUGUSTINE - Full and complete transcriptions. SARAH CATHERINE FIELD born January 29, 1831 baptized February 20, 1831 - ST. AUGUSTINE Church Parents: JOHN FIELD and ERNESTINA ABERCROMBIE Sponsors: JOHN PEARSON and CATHERINE FIELD =========================== 1850 United States Federal Census Record Name: John Field Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1790 Birth place: Pennsylvania Gender: Male Bart, Lancaster, Pennsylvania HOUSEHOLD: JOHN FIELD - age 60 - Farmer, property worth $1000, born in PA. (born abt. 1790) ERNESTINE FIELD - wife - age 54 -born in PA. (born abt. 1796) SARAH FIELD - daughter - age 19 - b. in PA. (born abt. 1831) CHARLES - son - age 16 - b. in PA. (born abt. 1834) THEODORE - son - age 12 - b. in PA. (born abt 1838) ==================================== Jacqueline Sleeper Russell Website: _http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surn ame=A_ (http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surname=A) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

In a message dated 4/27/2007 3:59:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, vsummers@gmail.com writes: Hi! I have to run at the moment, but I made some quick finds after work! >From a partial sentence from a newspaper article excerpt, I found out that: 1. Randolph SAILER married Mary FAIRMAN. =============================================== Found this item in _www.books.google.com_ (http://www.books.google.com) _Princeton Alumni Weekly - Page 340_ (http://books.google.com/books?id=CoIhAAAAMAAJ&q=Randolph+SAILER+&+Mary+FAIRMAN.&dq=Randolph+SAILER+&+Mary+FAIRMAN.&ie= ISO-8859-1) by Princeton University - 1900 •92 Randolph Sailer ex-*92 and Miss Mary ... Fairman were married in St. Stephen's Church, Philadelphia, on Nov. 26. '93 Rev. ... Snippet view - _About this book_ (http://books.google.com/books?id=CoIhAAAAMAAJ&dq=Randolph+SAILER+&+Mary+FAIRMAN.&ie=ISO-8859-1) ========================================= Jacqueline Sleeper Russell Website: _http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surn ame=A_ (http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surname=A) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi! I have to run at the moment, but I made some quick finds after work! >From a partial sentence from a newspaper article excerpt, I found out that: 1. Randolph SAILER married Mary FAIRMAN. 2. Two of their children became: a. Mary Emily Sailer GARDINER, and b. Anna Reisky Sailer ZULLINGER. I am hoping someone has info on these two. MESG was born 1902 to 1903, and ARSZ was born 1907 to 1908. They had two brothers I am aware of, Paul, and Franklin Fairman SAILER. Thanks! Vince Summers

Glad to help. But GOOGLE has other search engines, also. I am not pushing GOOGLE, but merely pointing out some features that will make it useful for our researching our Phila relations, et. al. Go to: www.google.com Click on: more A window pops up that includes: even more Click on it! WOW! Vince On 4/27/07, Ray Rhoads <rhodoray@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Many thanks for that address. Because of it I was able to find 3 patents my > great grandfather received in the 1890's. > > My father had told me he had received a patent and sold it to the Penn. > railroad and they moved him to Phila.in 1885 with a cushy job as payment. > But I was never able to find any patent's he received. Not that original one > but at least I know he was an inventor of things for railroads. > > Ray Rhoads > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks for that address. Because of it I was able to find 3 patents my great grandfather received in the 1890's. My father had told me he had received a patent and sold it to the Penn. railroad and they moved him to Phila.in 1885 with a cushy job as payment. But I was never able to find any patent's he received. Not that original one but at least I know he was an inventor of things for railroads. Ray Rhoads

Thats basically it...........my memory was vague about it! Thanks Liane!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liane Fenimore" <lfenimore@columbus.rr.com> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Police > Here is some history from the Phila police department. > > http://www.ppdonline.org/hq_history.php > > The modern force was started in 1850, Sir Robert Peel died that year in > England (b 1788). I don't see that he came to the U.S. - he was a British > Prime Minister, 1834-5 then 1841-6, and member of parliament who is > considered the father of modern policing. They may have used his > principles > in forming the Phila force. > > LIane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Lynch" <onecrazychick@comcast.net> > To: <larzemail@yahoo.com>; <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Police > > >> An interesting start would be to do some research on Sir Robert >> Peel........he started the first police department I believe in >> Philadelphia.......... > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message