Dear readers I always seem to be asking questions that seem to be a bind but it is possible for anyone to tell me which ward I would need to search to find the above mentioned address in 1900 please. I seem to have been going around in circles and still can't locate any mention of it. If anyone could help I would be most grateful. Eileen - Liverpool, UK

In a message dated 5/5/07 3:08:38, philly-roots-request@rootsweb.com writes: >   Mount Moriah: >   I scrolled through the years 1856-1885 looking for the name Crout; it took > less than an hour to do this as the setup is nice. It is alphabetical by > surname.  ...   Information included permit number, full name, age, date of > death and burial, where buried. > GSP has put the mm database on line for members only. I searched the database by name, section, lot etc. Very easy to use if a gsp member. Accessed by your home computer with a password. My only trbl was when I had over 250 hits. milt botwinick philadelphia ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Thank you. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: <PhilaResearch@aol.com> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] GSP & HSP > They have re-merged. They had separated some years ago but now are back > together at 13th and Locust Sts.. > > Philadelphia Research > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

They have re-merged. They had separated some years ago but now are back together at 13th and Locust Sts.. Philadelphia Research ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Would anyone have anything on sponsors on some of these baptismal records. ERNESTINE (ABERCROMBIE) PEARSON FIELD was my 3 great grandmother and SARA C. FIELD was her daughter. MARIE was ERNESTINE's daughter and the children were her grandchildren. Question: Who were: Witnesses: Charles Bayseau and Emily Stagers; Sponsors: Charles Doiseau; John Lawrence Laffette and Leonie Esandgeau ======================================================= From: Faith Charlton, Archival Technician e-mailed 5-4-07. Philadelphia Archdiocesan Historical Research Center 100 East Wynnewood Road Wynnewood, PA 19096-3001 Marriage Record: Philbert Mathew married Maria Pierson at Old St. Mary on November 14, 1843 Witnesses: Charles Bayseau and Emily Stagers By: C. J. H. Carter Baptism Record: Mary Anastasia Mathieu Born: October 20, 1844 Baptized: January 22, 1845- Old St. Mary Parents: Philbert and Mary Mathieu Sponsors: Charles Doiseau and Sara C. Field By Rev. D. Fonestal Baptism Record: Leon Lawrence Mathieu Born: May 28, 1847 Baptized: September 23, 1847- Old St. Mary Parents: Philibert Mathieu and Mary Mathieu Sponsors: John Lawrence Laffette and Leonie Esandgeau By Rev. C. J. H. Carter Baptism Record: Catherine Matthieu Born: June 30, 1856 Baptized: May 21, 1857- Old St. Joseph Parents: Philbert Matthieu and Maria Pearson Sponsor: Ernestine Field By Rev. Francis Xav. Vespre ============================================== Jacqueline Sleeper Russell Website: _http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surn ame=A_ (http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surname=A) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 5/4/2007 8:26:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, jgaw2@tampabay.rr.com writes: your answer is correct but giving the answer to Cousin jacks question would have been much shorter. --- Well, I guess my point is the old story of teaching a man to fish rather than giving him a fish. Especially now that we have the new archives search engine. It is pretty easy to check the archives to see whether a question you have has previously been answered on the list or not. Joan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Joan, your answer is correct but giving the answer to Cousin jacks question would have been much shorter. Jim in south fl. and cousin to Jack

You might get the microfilm from SLC to see if a page was missed when it went on Ancestry. On a maritime history page there is a description of a brig Delight launched in 1766 which was grounded and lost in 1877 off Ireland. She only had a crew of four at the time, two masts and was only 119 tons, so perhaps not a very big vessel. Liane > Frequently a cargo ship carried a few passengers which would be why only 7 > are listed. Workmen on the ship would not be listed so if someone worked > his passage, he would not be listed. > > > On October 24, 1824, the brig DELIGHT arrived in Philadelphia with, I > think, > my gr-gr-grandfather. Does anyone know: 1) how many passengers a brig > could > transport?; and, 2) where I would find a complete passenger list? The > subscription online resource I use lists only seven passengers and I'm > almost certain there are more. > > Thanks in advance > Kay in California > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office > Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at AOL.com. > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 5/4/2007 6:22:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, jwcrose@bellsouth.net writes: Come on Cousins lets stop the abbreviations, There are a lot of people in this world who don't know what Gsp and hsp mean. The proper way is to spell it out the first time and then you can abbreviate it later in your email. 10th Grade Jack in sunny Florida Please don't send in a reply to this email . ---- Jack- It comes with the territory when you post a message to a list, that you have to expect other list members and/or the admin may reply to what you have posted. Abbreviations have been with us on the Philly lists for many years and GSP and HSP (and others) have been explained numerous times over the years. So what may be new to you is "old hat" to most list members. If you go to the archives search engine: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ...and click the advanced tab, and then search for the PHILLY-ROOTS list and gsp OR hsp as your search terms, you get 599 hits and the second hit on the list explains the meaning of both GSP and HSP as early as 1997: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/philly-roots/1997-09/0873767736 That said, I'm not big fan of acronyms. It is usually better to spell out exactly what you mean -- but, in this case, these accronyms GSP and HSP have been with us on this list for at least 10 years, maybe longer. Joan, admin PHILLY-ROOTS@rootsweb.com ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Come on Cousins lets stop the abbreviations, There are a lot of people in this world who don't know what Gsp and hsp mean. The proper way is to spell it out the first time and then you can abbreviate it later in your email. 10th Grade Jack in sunny Florida Please don't send in a reply to this email . '

Thanks , Joan. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Gsp,hsp,???? -- ADMIN > > In a message dated 5/4/2007 6:22:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jwcrose@bellsouth.net writes: > > Come on Cousins lets stop the abbreviations, There are a lot of people > in this world who don't know what Gsp and hsp mean. > The proper way is to spell it out the first time and then you can > abbreviate it later in your email. > 10th Grade Jack in sunny Florida Please don't send in a reply > to this email . > > > > ---- > Jack- > > It comes with the territory when you post a message to a list, that you > have > to expect other list members and/or the admin may reply to what you have > posted. > > Abbreviations have been with us on the Philly lists for many years and GSP > and HSP (and others) have been explained numerous times over the years. > So > what may be new to you is "old hat" to most list members. > > If you go to the archives search engine: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > > ...and click the advanced tab, and then search for the PHILLY-ROOTS list > and > gsp OR hsp as your search terms, you get 599 hits and the second hit on > the > list explains the meaning of both GSP and HSP as early as 1997: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/philly-roots/1997-09/0873767736 > > That said, I'm not big fan of acronyms. It is usually better to spell > out > exactly what you mean -- but, in this case, these accronyms GSP and HSP > have > been with us on this list for at least 10 years, maybe longer. > > Joan, admin > PHILLY-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In light of one lists' discussion about Catholic cemeteries, I decided to pursue research of some of the records held at HSP (www.hsp.org) while visiting there this week. I do not know if these records are available elsewhere; they may be, and most likely a search on www.familysearch.org will help determine if they may be ordered at your local FHC. Holy Cross Cemetery: I located my g-g-grandmother Mary Sekel there using the index and register. The register contains the date of death, age of deceased, name of deceased, date of burial, location of plot/grave, and a section for comments. Due to the index, this was easy to use, with the ability to search multiple years in a decent amount of time. Since the cemetery requires a month and year of death, this can narrow a search significantly. The films do not offer what the Catholic Cemeteries Office does though: a list of all buried in that plot. New Cathedral Cemetery: I had a plot listing of my Fay family, and I've been unable to locate some death notices, possibly because they were never printed. Using this (since I had dates, I bypassed the index, for the register is in date order), I located 5 family members and slightly more info than the CCO had provided (emphasis on slightly). Also, a burial date that was given to me was off by a week--understandable as some of this writing can be challenging to read--so I may be able to look for a death notice for one with better success. The register provides the same info as Holy Cross' register does. Old Cathedral Cemetery: I was unable to locate two g-g-grandparents that I had exact dates of death for. Like the above 2, this has limited though helpful (to someone <grin>) information. Mount Moriah: I scrolled through the years 1856-1885 looking for the name Crout; it took less than an hour to do this as the setup is nice. It is alphabetical by surname. When looking for a "C" surname, I scrolled to the "C"s and it covered 1856-1869 in order, then all "C"s were grouped together in date order in 1869-1885 again. This format makes it easier to search for someone with a date that's not exact. Information included permit number, full name, age, date of death and burial, where buried. Fernwood Cemetery: I may be missing something on this one, but I found it hardest to use and put it away. I'd like to revisit this one, but it seemed mostly a list of plot locations rather than personal info; I didn't see any ages and didn't see another film with more detailed info such as a register. With no direct ancestors here that I know of (yet :)), I have not called Fernwood but have been told this is a cemetery with a helpful staff. I hope this is helpful to anyone seeking information. It helps to know where to find it but also what to expect when using the resource. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

Johanna, Thanks for your reply. It's been a while since I've been there, but not I recall it was Broad St. and not Market. My membership expires in June 2007 I would imagine that when I renew it will be for HSP. Thanks again. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "J SCHWARTZ" <phillysleuth@verizon.net> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] GSP & HSP > Hi Andy. > > Gsp was not on Market, but Broad, and yes they have merged with HSP. > collections and all. Your GSP membership, depending on which kind you got > I > think, entitled you to a certain # of visits at HSP anyway. Even if it > doesn't, I think they are making some way for you to use HSP facilities. > > jo > > Johanna Schwartz > Philadelphia Genealogy > 768 N 25th St > Philadelphia, PA 19130 > (215) 235-0895 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Andrelczyk" <czyk25@comcast.net> > To: <larzemail@yahoo.com>; <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 05:09 PM > Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] GSP & HSP > > >> The GSP research room on Market St. has closed? Everything has been moved > to >> the HSP location? I won't be back until July so I'm thinking I'll be >> going >> to HSP. Have the two merged and is my GSP membership good at the HSP? >> Thanks. >> Andy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "larzemail" <larzemail@yahoo.com> >> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] GSP & HSP >> >> >> > The GSP research room is closed. However, if you are a member of GSP, > you >> > may arrange to pick up a pass to HSP until June (I think through the >> > end >> > of the month). GSP is answering phones, and if you miss them, they > return >> > calls. HSP is open, and their hours are posted on their site. >> > >> > Andy Andrelczyk <czyk25@comcast.net> wrote: >> > Can anyone on the list give me some very basic information >> > concerning >> > the GSP and the HSP; >> >>snip< >> > Are both locations still open? >> > What are the hours of operation? >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------- >> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? >> > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. >> > >> > >> > ********* >> > Visit the threaded archives of this list: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS >> > ********* >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> >> ********* >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS >> ********* >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/785 - Release Date: 05/02/2007 > 02:16 PM >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/785 - Release Date: 05/02/2007 > 02:16 PM > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The GSP research room on Market St. has closed? Everything has been moved to the HSP location? I won't be back until July so I'm thinking I'll be going to HSP. Have the two merged and is my GSP membership good at the HSP? Thanks. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "larzemail" <larzemail@yahoo.com> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] GSP & HSP > The GSP research room is closed. However, if you are a member of GSP, you > may arrange to pick up a pass to HSP until June (I think through the end > of the month). GSP is answering phones, and if you miss them, they return > calls. HSP is open, and their hours are posted on their site. > > Andy Andrelczyk <czyk25@comcast.net> wrote: > Can anyone on the list give me some very basic information concerning > the GSP and the HSP; >>snip< > Are both locations still open? > What are the hours of operation? > > > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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The GSP research room is closed. However, if you are a member of GSP, you may arrange to pick up a pass to HSP until June (I think through the end of the month). GSP is answering phones, and if you miss them, they return calls. HSP is open, and their hours are posted on their site. Andy Andrelczyk <czyk25@comcast.net> wrote: Can anyone on the list give me some very basic information concerning the GSP and the HSP; >snip< Are both locations still open? What are the hours of operation? --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

Can anyone on the list give me some very basic information concerning the GSP and the HSP; Are they one organization now? Have they merged their collections? Are both locations still open? What are the hours of operation? Any information appreciated. Andy

Frequently a cargo ship carried a few passengers which would be why only 7 are listed. Workmen on the ship would not be listed so if someone worked his passage, he would not be listed. NARA has a book that lists the ships that arrived in each port on each date. I've used this book in DC, as well as in NY & Phila NARA regional archives. Merle -----Original Message----- From: kaydavis2@hotmail.com To: PHILLY-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 4 May 2007 9:40 AM Subject: [Phly-Rts] immigrant ship DELIGHT On October 24, 1824, the brig DELIGHT arrived in Philadelphia with, I think, my gr-gr-grandfather. Does anyone know: 1) how many passengers a brig could transport?; and, 2) where I would find a complete passenger list? The subscription online resource I use lists only seven passengers and I'm almost certain there are more. Thanks in advance Kay in California _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Or write to PAHRC and have them research the church marriage register. It will take some time, as there's always a backlog of requests (and will cost you a research fee), but they are thorough and precise. Claire K. On May 3, 2007, at 11:18 PM, John Hogg wrote: > And lots of luck getting St Charles to respond > > -----Original Message----- > From: philly-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:philly-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Cotshott > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:23 PM > To: philly-roots-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Phly-Rts] Need some guidance w/minister's returns please. > > Several thoughts on the message below. > A long shot is that all the priest were transfered > before the the marriage took place. Check in the > directores one or two years before on after the mar- > rage to see if the priest name shows up. > > The second choice and most likley, which I have in my > family is that the priest was well liked by the bride. > He served in the parish for several and then was > transferred to another parish. He was asked back to > the parish to perform the marriage. > > John > > 1885 City Directory > Roman Catholic > St. Charles Borromeo > 20th c Christian > Rev. Nicholas J. Walsh, rector; > Rev. John T. Crowley, > Rev. Francis Dougherty, > Rev. James C. Wynne, aast. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "larzemail" <larzemail@yahoo.com> > To: "Philly-roots" <PHILLY-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 4:23 PM > Subject: [Phly-Rts] Need some guidance w/minister's > returns please. > > >> Today I was able to view the original marriage > register for my SEKEL > - >> FINNEGAN 1885 marriage which was almost illegible on > the film. When >> following up by looking for the minister's return, I > couldn't find > it. >> While I was there, no one available could help me > with this, so I'm > asking >> you all :) In the column providing the name of the > person > officiating is >> "St. Charles Borromeo". I looked under S, C, and B, > then scrolled > through >> most if not all of the Roman Catholic returns in > 1885 without > success. >> Where should I be looking please? This is a new > record to me - > thanks in >> advance for help! >> > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http:// > archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PHILLY-ROOTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message Claire K seekay@comcast.net

Rich, if it is phila, you can send for obit. searching- ALLEN-BARNETT-CARROLL-BURNS GEIGER-Veach -GEARIN-KANE-SMITH-MOYLAN DONAHUE ----- Original Message ----- From: "ColumbusGuy" <plugnplaycmh@yahoo.com> To: <PHILLY-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: [Phly-Rts] is there a 1900 Mortuary Schedule? > Hi everyone, > > I know little about Mortality Schedules, but from what I've found on the > web, it looks like they were only collected for census years 1850-1880. > > I have a relative in PA who died July 21,1899. I thought maybe there > would be info on her in a 1900 mortality schedule, but alas, it looks like > there isn't one. > > Am I out of luck, or does it exist somewhere, perhaps just not on > Ancestry??? > > Thanks, > Rich > > > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >