This is new to me: the idea that some areas were not enumerated. Would that be by oversight? Mary Finley verizon <marmfin@verizon.net> wrote: That address would definitely be Ward 34. It borders Montgomery County (City Avenue). I suspect it wasn't enumerated in 1900. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

District 841 Philadelphia city, Ward 34; Division 20 (pt. of) Bounded by: 69th, Landsdowne, Haverford, City Ave. Mary, this is what I get for 1910 census. Yes, indeed it is ward 34 in 1900 also. Someone else just replied but I haven't opened it yet. My great grandparent's are listed for 11 years at Virginia N. 69th st. 1899 directory to 1910 census, but he is not in the 1900 directory. In 1903/4/5 he was a buther at the 157 and 115 Fairmount Mkts. Thanks, Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Finley verizon" <marmfin@verizon.net> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] 1900 assistance > That address would definitely be Ward 34. It borders Montgomery County > (City Avenue). I suspect it wasn't enumerated in 1900. If you look at > the > 1910 census almost all of those enumerated are Italian and married less > than > 10 years. The occupations tend to be farm/garden. Now I want to take a > ride to the spot and see what is there! > 69th and Haverford would be very close by. > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Hamilton" <rhamilton26@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 1:32 PM > Subject: [Phly-Rts] 1900 assistance > > >> Fred H Foxhill, butcher h Virginia Rd N 69th St, >> John Foxhill, butcher Virginia Rd. N 69th St. >> >> This information is from the 1899 city directory. Fred lived at this >> address to 1910. So >> where is he in the 1900 census? >> I checked Ward 34 ED 893, as my great grandmother Sarah Crosland lived >> at >> 69th >> and Haverford. >> Can anyone help with the ward for Virginia RD N 69th st. >> >> Thank you, Jane >> >> >> >> ********* >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS >> ********* >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jane, I assume you saw the Foxhill family enumerated in 1900 in Upper Darby, Delaware? It isn't too far from your 69th and Virginia as the crow flies. The Septa line, etc. would interfere with driving or walking:-) Definitely not even close to being the same address. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Hamilton" <rhamilton26@tampabay.rr.com> To: "PHILLY ROOTS" <PHILLY-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: [Phly-Rts] 1900 Virginia Ave > Does anyone know the ED for Virginia RD and N 69th street in Ward 34 of > the 1900 census. > I did ED 904 that gives about 20 houses on Virginia and 70th streets. > > According to my calculations it falls at the cross roads of Haverford and > Lansdowne on the > Cobbs Creek Golf Course. Only a small arch of 69th between City Ave and > Sherwood appear on > today's maps. > > Thank you, Jane > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

howards@infionline.net wrote: >>Here's another puzzle that maybe a few of you can help solve: There is a Bucks County, PA Orphans Court File [#2757], dated Sept. 1, 1819, which mentions Joseph VANDEGRIFT as deceased and lists his children as: "Hannah, Emily, John, Benjamin, and "Beans"<< Howard ~ I found this.....it would make sense that one of her children might be named McBean Vandegrift..... Hope it helps, Dianne * * * * * * Vandegrift genealogy Author: Thomas, Frederic A. Date of Publication: 19--? Marriages, Christ Church, Philadelphia Pa. Archives, Series 2. Vol. 8. 1782, Dec. 15......Joseph Vandergrist and Mary McBean ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

That address would definitely be Ward 34. It borders Montgomery County (City Avenue). I suspect it wasn't enumerated in 1900. If you look at the 1910 census almost all of those enumerated are Italian and married less than 10 years. The occupations tend to be farm/garden. Now I want to take a ride to the spot and see what is there! 69th and Haverford would be very close by. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Hamilton" <rhamilton26@tampabay.rr.com> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: [Phly-Rts] 1900 assistance > Fred H Foxhill, butcher h Virginia Rd N 69th St, > John Foxhill, butcher Virginia Rd. N 69th St. > > This information is from the 1899 city directory. Fred lived at this > address to 1910. So > where is he in the 1900 census? > I checked Ward 34 ED 893, as my great grandmother Sarah Crosland lived at > 69th > and Haverford. > Can anyone help with the ward for Virginia RD N 69th st. > > Thank you, Jane > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone know the ED for Virginia RD and N 69th street in Ward 34 of the 1900 census. I did ED 904 that gives about 20 houses on Virginia and 70th streets. According to my calculations it falls at the cross roads of Haverford and Lansdowne on the Cobbs Creek Golf Course. Only a small arch of 69th between City Ave and Sherwood appear on today's maps. Thank you, Jane

Dear Ken Many thanks for the information on the above address - I am now working my way through all of 7 Ward to see what comes up. Would it be an imposition if I asked you the same question with regard to the other following addresses - 23rd and Filbert 1923 Ann Street 27th and Thompson Street any clue as to the Wards would be gratefully accepted if you would not mind. Thank you again Eileen

Many thanks to you Nelson for taking the time to do this lookup! Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nrtennison@aol.com> To: <philly-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] BRYNAN - Ancestry lookup request > > In a message dated 5/5/2007 3:58:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > c_francesca@bslg.com writes: > > In a message dated 5/5/2007 3:03:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> c_francesca@bslg.com writes: >> >> Would very much appreciate two specific lookups on Ancestry for my >> Philadelphia BRYNAN family: >> >> 1 - Under "Philadelphia, 1789-1880 Naturalization Records", Ancestry's >> index >> indicates 2 BRYNAN records. >> >> 2 - Under "Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943" , the index also >> indicates >> 2 >> BRYNAN records. >> >> With thanks, >> Carole > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > _Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943_ > (http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8745&enc=1) > about John Brynan > Name: John John Arrival Date: 24 Apr 1871 Age: 28 Years Estimated > birth > year: abt 1843 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Liverpool, England > Ship > Name: Tarifa Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts Microfilm Roll > Number: > M277_80 > > > > _Philadelphia, 1789-1880 Naturalization Records_ > (http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=7487&enc=1) > about John Brynan > Name: John John Place of Origin: Great Britain and Ireland > Declaration > of Intent Date: 5 Dec 1818 Declaration of Intent Court: Common Pleas > Signature 1: > Signature 2: John Brynan Comment: 11214 > > _Philadelphia, 1789-1880 Naturalization Records_ > (http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=7487&enc=1) > about John Brynan > Name: John John Place of Origin: Great Britain and Ireland > Declaration > of Intent Date: 11 Oct 1816 Declaration of Intent Court: Quarter Sessions > Signature 1: > Signature 2: John Brynan Comment: 11215 > > Carole, I only found one BRYNAN in the Boston Passenger Lists, > > Nelson > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

The folks at both these cemeteries are very nice.

In a message dated 5/5/2007 3:58:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, c_francesca@bslg.com writes: In a message dated 5/5/2007 3:03:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > c_francesca@bslg.com writes: > > Would very much appreciate two specific lookups on Ancestry for my > Philadelphia BRYNAN family: > > 1 - Under "Philadelphia, 1789-1880 Naturalization Records", Ancestry's > index > indicates 2 BRYNAN records. > > 2 - Under "Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943" , the index also indicates > 2 > BRYNAN records. > > With thanks, > Carole ------------------------------------------ _Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943_ (http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8745&enc=1) about John Brynan Name: John John Arrival Date: 24 Apr 1871 Age: 28 Years Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Tarifa Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts Microfilm Roll Number: M277_80 _Philadelphia, 1789-1880 Naturalization Records_ (http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=7487&enc=1) about John Brynan Name: John John Place of Origin: Great Britain and Ireland Declaration of Intent Date: 5 Dec 1818 Declaration of Intent Court: Common Pleas Signature 1: Signature 2: John Brynan Comment: 11214 _Philadelphia, 1789-1880 Naturalization Records_ (http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=7487&enc=1) about John Brynan Name: John John Place of Origin: Great Britain and Ireland Declaration of Intent Date: 11 Oct 1816 Declaration of Intent Court: Quarter Sessions Signature 1: Signature 2: John Brynan Comment: 11215 Carole, I only found one BRYNAN in the Boston Passenger Lists, Nelson ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 5/5/2007 3:42:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: In a message dated 5/5/2007 3:37:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Nrtennis on@aol.com writes: Sometimes the male head of the household, fathered children to a female servant or slave and they were kept with the family as children of their own if the mother of the "Beans" child passed away, or was sold? the slave-owner kept the offspring. Remember, this was 1819. Nelson --- Just because there are Orphans Court procedings for these children of a deceased father doesn't necessarily indicate that the mother of the children is deceased. In those days, if the father died, a "financial" guardian would have been appointed for the minor children and the mother would have retained custodial guardianship. So I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that the mother is deceased. Joan --- My point was that sometimes, in that era a male head of household fathered children to more then one women and it was considered ok for that time period. Happened pretty often in the more well to do neighborhood. I wasn't implying that "Beans" mother was deceased. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 5/5/2007 3:03:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, c_francesca@bslg.com writes: Would very much appreciate two specific lookups on Ancestry for my Philadelphia BRYNAN family: 1 - Under "Philadelphia, 1789-1880 Naturalization Records", Ancestry's index indicates 2 BRYNAN records. 2 - Under "Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943" , the index also indicates 2 BRYNAN records. With thanks, Carole ------------------------------ Could you be a little more specific? I.E. First names, do you have more info to help make it easier for the person looking it up for you? No Problem Nelson ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 5/5/2007 3:37:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Nrtennis on@aol.com writes: Sometimes the male head of the household, fathered children to a female servant or slave and they were kept with the family as children of their own if the mother of the "Beans" child passed away, or was sold? the slave-owner kept the offspring. Remember, this was 1819. Nelson --- Just because there are Orphans Court procedings for these children of a deceased father doesn't necessarily indicate that the mother of the children is deceased. In those days, if the father died, a "financial" guardian would have been appointed for the minor children and the mother would have retained custodial guardianship. So I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that the mother is deceased. Joan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 5/5/2007 2:59:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, howards@infionline.net writes: Listers, Here's another puzzle that maybe a few of you can help solve: There is a Bucks County, PA Orphans Court File [#2757], dated Sept. 1, 1819, which mentions Joseph VANDEGRIFT as deceased and lists his children as: "Hannah, Emily, John, Benjamin, and "Beans". My questions are: Who was the mother of these children? What was the real name of the child named "Beans"? and What was "Beans' " date of birth? Any help on this mystery would be greatly appreciated. Howard Howard Speck howards@infionline.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. -------- Sometimes the male head of the household, fathered children to a female servant or slave and they were kept with the family as children of their own if the mother of the "Beans" child passed away, or was sold? the slave-owner kept the offspring. Remember, this was 1819. Nelson ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 5/5/2007 2:59:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, howards@infionline.net writes: Listers, Here's another puzzle that maybe a few of you can help solve: There is a Bucks County, PA Orphans Court File [#2757], dated Sept. 1, 1819, which mentions Joseph VANDEGRIFT as deceased and lists his children as: "Hannah, Emily, John, Benjamin, and "Beans". My questions are: Who was the mother of these children? What was the real name of the child named "Beans"? and What was "Beans' " date of birth? Any help on this mystery would be greatly appreciated. Howard Howard Speck ----- Howard- I have no knowledge of or connection to this family--but a quick search of WorldConnect family trees turned up a Joseph VANDEGRIFT born in Bucks County in 1762--death date not listed, whose wife is shown as Mary MCBEAN. Now wouldn't it be perfect for a child of a mother whose maiden name was MCBEAN to have the nickname "Beans?" The family trees don't list ANY children for this couple but were it me I'd be curious enough to consider this possibility and try to find out whether they had any offspring or not. Joan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Would very much appreciate two specific lookups on Ancestry for my Philadelphia BRYNAN family: 1 - Under "Philadelphia, 1789-1880 Naturalization Records", Ancestry's index indicates 2 BRYNAN records. 2 - Under "Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943" , the index also indicates 2 BRYNAN records. With thanks, Carole

Fred H Foxhill, butcher h Virginia Rd N 69th St, John Foxhill, butcher Virginia Rd. N 69th St. This information is from the 1899 city directory. Fred lived at this address to 1910. So where is he in the 1900 census? I checked Ward 34 ED 893, as my great grandmother Sarah Crosland lived at 69th and Haverford. Can anyone help with the ward for Virginia RD N 69th st. Thank you, Jane

Listers, Here's another mystery I haven't been able to solve: Joseph VANDEGRIFT (1796-1869) md. Hannah HUSER (or JACOBY) about 1820 in Bucks County, PA. One of those names - JACOBY or HUSER - might be the surname of a previous spouse. But one offspring of that marriage is believed to be Theodore D. VANDEGRIFT of Bensalem Twp. in Bucks Co. Assuming that to be true, does anyone know of any other siblings for Theodore? Or can you provide any further information about this family? Thanks for even thinking about it. Howard Howard Speck howards@infionline.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.

I have been asked to again announce the anniversary of the Pennepack Baptist Church. The 319th Anniversary will be celebrated on Sunday, June 3, 2007. The service is at 4 PM, Krewstown Road south of Grant Avenue. The speaker will be Rev. Dr. Horace Russell, pastor of Saints Memorial Baptist Church in Bryn Mawr, Pa., and an Oxford University trained church historian. The Bustleton Avenue site was sold and services are every Sunday at 11 AM in the Olde Pennepack Church. Many renovations have been done to the old church. Jean Marie Tilford Co-pastor Pat Stopper Sec.-Board Trustees 215-673-4410 Jane

That address was the 7th Ward from 1854 to 1961, then it became the 8th Ward. I just got done working on a family where the fellow was the committee man for the 7th Ward's 15th Division, whose boundaries were 22d, Pine, 24th and South Streets. The 2323 Lombarad Street address would have fit it that area, it would have been the north side of Lombard Street, the fourth house from the corner of 24th Street, it was (still?) a three story brick house, on a rowhouse block. Ken -- www.kennethwmilano.com -------------- Original message -------------- From: EileenCrook@aol.com > Dear readers > > I always seem to be asking questions that seem to be a bind but it is > possible for anyone to tell me which ward I would need to search to find the > above > mentioned address in 1900 please. I seem to have been going around in > circles and still can't locate any mention of it. If anyone could help I would > be > most grateful. > > > Eileen - Liverpool, UK > > > > > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message