We are looking for others who have experienced difficulty placing a marker on a baby grave in the Archdiocesan cemeteries. I have been told by some of the cemeteries that not allowing a marker has nothing to do with legality, but it is simply a policy. In recent years the cemeteries now allow baby markers because of the insistence of parents (at a nominal fee). Thirty or 40 years ago this was not an option, and the Diocese continues to push back upon these requests. I'm looking for comments, suggestions from others who have run into this policy. we have been trying to have something done for our daughter for over 10 years with no results.

-----Original Message----- From: Michael J. O'Brien [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Obit lookup for William H Bruchey We are looking for the obituary for WILLIAM H BRUCHEY who died between 1920 and 1930 in Philadelphia. My cousin is visiting Philadelphia from South Carolina and while she is here she would like to visit his grave before she returns home. We have tried asking the Catholic Cemeteries for help. Holy Cross as everyone knows was very helpful and cheerful about checking their records for Mr. Bruchey but apparently he was not buried there. We tried Cathedral and got the usual run around and lack of help. Could some kind person do a lookup for Mr. Bruchey's obit which would likely list his burial site? Again William died between 1920 and 1930. His second wife was Mary E. Greenleaf, a widow. They married in 1917. Thanks for any assistance. Any suggestions to find this burial site would be greatly appreciated!

Sorry for the long delay in answering.  The certificates gave name of child, name of parents (not mom's maiden name), place of birth (usually a home address), name of person who delivered (doctor or midwife), date of birth, plus the date certificate was signed and by whom. I was pleasantly surprised at the info given, especially when it gave the child's complete name including middle name/s. Alexa K Richard  --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Ray Markey <[email protected]> wrote: From: Ray Markey <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Birth Certificates To: [email protected] Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 7:02 AM Alexa: >From that period, what type of information is revealed on the certificate? On 5/29/09, Alexa K Richard <[email protected]> wrote: > Joan, > > I sent for four birth certificates from 1871 - 1892 for my great-grandmother > and some of her children.  They were all born in Philadelphia and all born > at home.  I sent my request to the City Archives.  I received all four birth > certificates within a short time, probably less than a month.  I sent for > them in July 2008.  The four certificates cost me total $36. > > You can call them to find out what they are charging now. > > http://www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/Inventor/genealgy.htm > > > Alexa > > > --- On Tue, 5/19/09 > > I would like to send for 3 birth certificates, one from 1886, one from 1890 > and one from 1897. Would these be available from the city archives on Market > Street, and is the fee $10.00 per certificate? > > Thank you for your help. > > Joan

Hi gene researchers, I’m combing the lists of southeastern PA looking for my brick wall, hope someone can help: GGG grandparents - Johann Jacob and Elisabeth EDELMANN both would have had to have been born circa 1790 or earlier. I don’t know Elisabeth’s surname, only what’s in their children’s records from Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church, Jonestown, Lebanon County, PA. Could have lived elsewhere, born in PA or Germany or ? In addition to my GG grandfather Raymond, only his brother Johann Christian EDELMANN may have lived to carry on the Edelmann name so I also would like to know if he married and had children. Known children of Jacob and Elisabeth EDELMANN 1. Henrietta, dau. b. 9 Nov 1811; bap. 15 Jan 1812 2. Juliana, dau. b. 9 Jan 1814; bap. 22 May 1814 3. Rehman, son b. 5 Jul 1816; bap. 10 May 1817 (my GG grandfather ended up in Blair Co., PA d. 14 Oct 1907) 4. Johann Christian, son b. 3 Apr 1821; bap. 7 Jan 1822 5. Maria, dau. b. 8 Sep 1822; bap. 22 Jun 1823 6. Sara, dau. b. 21 Mar 1825; bap. 14 Feb 1828 7. Anna, dau. b. 14 Feb 1827; d. 17 Feb 1830 8. Jeremias, son b. 28 Dec 18 1828; d. 13 Mar 1830 Regards, Trudi Edelman [email protected] Main focus for now: EDDLEMAN, EDELMANN, DAVIS, KOCH, MILLER, NYCUM, PIKEY, ROMSBERG, ZELLMER (or any spelling variations)

Correct that-Genealogybank not genealogynewsbank. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "psingersoll" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] Needing an obit - Clara Hunter Nothing in Genealogynewsbank. Pat Ingersoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry B." <[email protected]> To: "PHILLY-ROOTS-L Newslist" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:05 PM Subject: [Phly-Rts] Needing an obit - Clara Hunter Clare J. Hunter died around October 29, 1916 (not sure of exact dod) and is buried in Greenmount Cemetery. Have sent request to FLP but haven't received a reply yet. Would appreciate a copy of her obituary. Larry B. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nothing in Genealogynewsbank. Pat Ingersoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry B." <[email protected]> To: "PHILLY-ROOTS-L Newslist" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:05 PM Subject: [Phly-Rts] Needing an obit - Clara Hunter Clare J. Hunter died around October 29, 1916 (not sure of exact dod) and is buried in Greenmount Cemetery. Have sent request to FLP but haven't received a reply yet. Would appreciate a copy of her obituary. Larry B. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Liane- There were some list server problems at RootsWeb a few days ago and now some of the old messages are starting to filter on through, some for the second time around. Joan, admin [email protected] In a message dated 7/11/2009 4:47:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Heavens, I sent that email on July 4! Liane

Clare J. Hunter died around October 29, 1916 (not sure of exact dod) and is buried in Greenmount Cemetery. Have sent request to FLP but haven't received a reply yet. Would appreciate a copy of her obituary. Larry B. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009

The Germantown Historical Society will do city directory lookups for a fee. However, the 1837 directory only includes Old City Philadelphia. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Jul 6, 2009 5:12 pm Subject: [Phly-Rts] Philly city directory Does anyone know if there is a Philly city directory that is online that would cover 1837? I am looking for a Matthew Berriman. Thank you. **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377077x1201454398/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Heavens, I sent that email on July 4! Liane

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Their niece is seeking any birth or marriage or census or military or death records.  Any ideas where to search beyond Ancestry and FamilySearch?  Rose Marie Barthmaier was born in Philadelphia in abt 1908 to John Barthmaier and Elizabeth Kitten. Married Charlie Gustafson before WWII, he served in Germany during the War.  He died in his early 40's in about 1953.  Charlie had a sister Karin and a brother Tage aka Harry. Parents may be Fritz and Selma, Swedish immigrants to Philadelphia, who appear on the 1930 census. 

Army records are available from the federal government. Gene Stackhouse > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:40:52 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Phly-Rts] Rose Barthmaier and Charlie Gustafson of Philadelphia > > > > > Their niece is seeking any birth or marriage or census or military or death records. Any ideas where to search beyond Ancestry and FamilySearch? > > > > Rose Marie Barthmaier was born in Philadelphia in abt 1908 to John Barthmaier and Elizabeth Kitten. > > > > Married Charlie Gustafson before WWII, he served in Germany during the War. He died in his early 40's in about 1953. Charlie had a sister Karin and a brother Tage aka Harry. Parents may be Fritz and Selma, Swedish immigrants to Philadelphia, who appear on the 1930 census. > > > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From the Norheast H.S. (Phila) brochure. M. Lauffer

I am looking for late 1700's to earliest 1800's LONGs - particularly a Peter and a Michael. Peter was a cousin to George KILLINGER, and Michael and George were involved in Peter's will. My guess is that Michael was either a brother or a son to Peter. Any bites? Thanks, Vince Summers -- http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/333797/vincent_summers.html

With that narrower silhouette, it must be 1878 or later. If it was taken early 1860s she should have had a wide skirt - crinoline style, think Mary Lincoln. Look at Wikipedia photos of the 1860s and then the 1870s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860s_in_fashion Although with those sleeves, her dress almost looks 1890s. She also appears to have a wedding ring on her left hand. His clothing looks wrong for the 1860s but look at what Bat Masterton is wearing on the Wikipedia 1870s fashion page. Liane

I believe it is the Arntz, taken about the early 1900s. I have a picture of my grandparents taken in that time period and the clothing is very similar. Joy --- On Sat, 7/4/09, John Hogg <[email protected]> wrote: > From: John Hogg <[email protected]> > Subject: [Phly-Rts] Dating picture > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 4:15 PM > I have an old picture that was > probably taken in Philadelphia and would be a > set of great grandparents but which? > > I have it on my site at > > http://www.johnhogg.us/unknown.htm > > Can anyone guess a date from the style > > Two choices > > Joseph Houser - 1820 and Barbara Herrmann - 1829 they > married 1864 he > deceased after 1870. > > Gerhard Arntz 1844 and Johanna 1854 married about 1878 came > to US 1882 > > Son of couple 1 married dau of couple 2 > > Any guesses appreciated > > John > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

We can all guess, but if you want some expert advise from a very knowledgeable woman, contact Maureen Taylor, The Photo Detective. You can Google her name for the website and contact info. Good luck, Kay in CA EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:15:12 -0500 > Subject: [Phly-Rts] Dating picture > > I have an old picture that was probably taken in Philadelphia and would be a > set of great grandparents but which? > > I have it on my site at > > http://www.johnhogg.us/unknown.htm > > Can anyone guess a date from the style > > Two choices > > Joseph Houser - 1820 and Barbara Herrmann - 1829 they married 1864 he > deceased after 1870. > > Gerhard Arntz 1844 and Johanna 1854 married about 1878 came to US 1882 > > Son of couple 1 married dau of couple 2 > > Any guesses appreciated > > John > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have an old picture that was probably taken in Philadelphia and would be a set of great grandparents but which? I have it on my site at http://www.johnhogg.us/unknown.htm Can anyone guess a date from the style Two choices Joseph Houser - 1820 and Barbara Herrmann - 1829 they married 1864 he deceased after 1870. Gerhard Arntz 1844 and Johanna 1854 married about 1878 came to US 1882 Son of couple 1 married dau of couple 2 Any guesses appreciated John

I found Emma. Emma MADORNA b Feb 13 1886 d Feb 1970 Passyunk (zip 19148) Anyone connect, or know anything? Vince -- http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/333797/vincent_summers.html