Hi Jo-Ann No sign of your John E Kelly in the Sep 28-Oct 1, 1921 Phila Inquirer mortuary notices. Also no sign of him in a 1920-1921 search. What's your source that has him buried at H/C Oct 1, 1921 ? Rick Hutton ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -------Original Message------- From: Jo-Ann Bradley Date: 12/29/2009 11:13:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Phly-Rts] John E. Kelly Listers, My great grandfather, John E. Kelly, was born, lived & died in Philadelphia. I'd really like to go further back with his family but am having difficulty since he had such a common name. He was buried in Holy Cross Cemetery on Oct 01, 1921. I assume he died the latter part of Sept. He lived at 2360 N. Hope St and was a carpet weaver. His wife Jennie's parents' were Thomas & Sarah Henderson. Thomas was born in Scotland & Sarah in Ireland. John & Jennie's children - Mary, John, Katherine, Ella,& Charles. Does this family link with yours? Does anyone have easy access to old Philadelphia newspapers to look up John s date of death? I'd need that to get his death certificate for clues to his parents. Thank you. Jo-Ann

I couldn't resist "digging". It is John Edward Kelly. John E. and Jane/Jenny/Jean/Jennie Henderson had 7 children with 5 surviving according to 1900 Census. You do have many clues! Have you contacted Holy Cross Cemetery? Give them the name and burial date and request the location of the plot, all names interred there and the owner of the plot. I found two death certs for Lizzie, died 16 May 1887, address 280 Otter St., burial New Cathedral and Joseph died 5 June 1885 , same address and cemetery. They may or may not be yours, but the address is Ward 16 where they are found in 1880 Census. (Otter became Wildey, location 2nd st. to Frankford ave. north of Poplar in 1897.) You could contact the Catholic Cemeteries Office and request more information. The children could be buried with their Kelly grandparents. You can view the death certs at www.familsearchlabs.org, get the birth dates and request their Baptismal information. as well as that of Sarah Henderson who is buried at Holy Cross. John and Jenny were living at 976 Delaware Ave. with Mary, age 3 in 1880 Census in Ward 16 along with widowed Sarah Henderson. You could contact PAHRC and request Mary's Baptismal information. I believe that address is Immaculate Conception, Front and Allen Sts. Baptismal information gives you the names of Godparents. If they are John's siblings it will be easier to find him as a child since you know he was born in Philadelphia about Oct. 1854. Happy Hunting! You WILL find his parents. Regards, Mary McCanney Finley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo-Ann Bradley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: [Phly-Rts] John E. Kelly > Listers, > My great grandfather, John E. Kelly, was born, lived & died in > Philadelphia. I'd really like to go further back with his family but am > having difficulty since he had such a common name. > He was buried in Holy Cross Cemetery on Oct 01, 1921. I assume he died the > latter part of Sept. He lived at 2360 N. Hope St and was a carpet weaver. > His wife Jennie's parents' were Thomas & Sarah Henderson. Thomas was born > in Scotland & Sarah in Ireland. > John & Jennie's children - Mary, John, Katherine, Ella,& Charles. > Does this family link with yours? > Does anyone have easy access to old Philadelphia newspapers to look up > John's date of death? I'd need that to get his death certificate for clues > to his parents. > Thank you. Jo-Ann > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Listers, My great grandfather, John E. Kelly, was born, lived & died in Philadelphia. I'd really like to go further back with his family but am having difficulty since he had such a common name. He was buried in Holy Cross Cemetery on Oct 01, 1921. I assume he died the latter part of Sept. He lived at 2360 N. Hope St and was a carpet weaver. His wife Jennie's parents' were Thomas & Sarah Henderson. Thomas was born in Scotland & Sarah in Ireland. John & Jennie's children - Mary, John, Katherine, Ella,& Charles. Does this family link with yours? Does anyone have easy access to old Philadelphia newspapers to look up John's date of death? I'd need that to get his death certificate for clues to his parents. Thank you. Jo-Ann

History Beggarstown (also Beggars-town or Beggar Town) or Bettelhausen was formed out of the so-called "Sidelands" of Germantown. The Sidelands were a section of Germantown Township that had been set aside so that the owners of lots in the center of Germantown could have access to an equal share of land in the entire village of Germantown section of Germantown Township. It covered the area from Washington Lane to roughly Sedgwick Street and Stenton and Wissahickon Avenues. As the Germantown village, founded in 1683, filled up, settlers began to move northwest along Germantown Avenue. By the 1730s and 1740s, the Sidelands area was subdivided into smaller house lots. The origin of the name is explained in 1770 by Morgan Edwards in his section on the early history of the Germantown Church of the Brethren, as follows: [The Beggarstown meeting] takes its distinction from a little village of ... [this] name, in the township of Germantown, eight miles NW from the city.... On the same lot [of their meeting house] stands their old building erected by one John Pettikoffer for his dwelling house in 1731; and because it was the first house in the place, and erected by a beggar, the village assumed the name of Beggarstown.[1] The German form of the name, which is probably the original form, is Bettelhausen — coming from the German word betteln, which means to beg, and hausen, which is a common suffix added to place names (like Schaffhausen) which roughly means town or village (derived from the German word Haus — house). One of the earliest uses of the name Bettelhausen appears in a newspaper ad in Christopher Sower's newspaper.[2] One reference from 1757 appears in the church records of Saint Michael's Lutheran Church, Germantown, where the burial register entry for Nicolaus Rausch notes that he was a resident "hier in Bettelhausen."[3] Though some late 19th century Philadelphia histories claim that the name is a corruption of Bebberstown, named for Rev. Mathias van Bebber[4][5], this is incorrect. Mathias van Bebber was not a minister and he had no direct connection with this area of Germantown Township. van Bebber was an immigrant from Krefeld, Germany and lived for a brief time in Germantown before moving to Bohemia Manor in Maryland around 1710. In the 18th century Beggarstown was the home of two important congregations. The mother church of the Church of the Brethren denomination moved to its present location at Germantown Avenue and Hortter Street in 1760 and worshiped for a while in the Pettikoffer house until 1770 when they built a meeting house which is still in use by the congregation today.[6] The other church which was formed very early in this village was Saint Michael's Lutheran Church. The earliest documentation for a Lutheran congregation in Germantown is found in 1738 when four men (Georg Wensell, Jacob Behlert, Georg Rieger/Rüger [later known as Rex], and Johann Groethausen) purchased a lot on Germantown Avenue which became the core of the property the congregation still owns today. St. Michael's soon became an important regional focal point for the growing number of 18th century churched (i.e. Lutheran or Reformed) German immigrants who quickly outnumbered the older German Quaker, Mennonite and Brethren families. At this time the congregation served almost all Lutherans living between the colonial city of Philadelphia and the church at Trappe, Pennsylvania.[7] In the 19th century, there was an effort of some of the residents of the area to change the name to Franklinville. Though they succeeded in naming a literary club and volunteer fire company[8] with the new name, Beggarstown continued to be used by the local residents until the late nineteenth century when the spread of suburbanization eradicated the small village atmosphere along this section of Germantown Avenue. [edit] References ^ Edwards, Morgan (1770). Materials Toward a History of the Baptists in Pennsylvania both British and German, Distinguished into Firstday Baptists, Keithian Baptists, Seventhday Baptists, Tuncker Baptists, Mennonist Baptists, vol. 1. Philadelphia. Quoted directly on p. 175 of Durnbaugh, Donald F. (1967). The Brethren in Colonial America: A Source Book on the Transplantation and Development of the Church of the Brethren in the Eighteenth Century. Elgin, Illinois. ^ Pensylvanische Berichte, oder, Sammlung wichtiger Nachrichten aus dem Natur-und Kirchen-Reich, 1755-03-01: Christophel Jacobi, in Bettelhausen bey Germanton macht bekant, daß bey ihm zu haben sind Albanier Erbsen beym Buschel oder beym Faß. Auch Schein-Fett beym Fäßgen oder einteylen Pfund, auch französichen Indigo. ^ Weiser, Frederick S., ed. (2000). St. Michael's Evangelical Lutheran Church Germantown (now part of Philadelphia), Pennsylvania, 1745-1841. Rockport, Maine. vol 2, p. 112 ^ "Philadelphia Neighborhoods and Place Names, A-K". http://www.phila.gov/PHILS/Docs/otherinfo/pname1.htm. Retrieved 2006-11-06. ^ Faris, John. "Old Churches and Meeting Houses In and Around Philadelphia: Three Old Churches in Germantown - How Beggarstown Received Its Name". http://www.libraries.psu.edu/do/digitalbookshelf/27664327/27664327_part_03.pdf. Retrieved 2006-11-06. Faris' reference to the area being part of Bebber's Township is incorrect. Bebber's Township was located in what is now Skippack Township, Montgomery CountyPennypacker, Samuel Whittaker (1899). "The Settlement of Germantown, Pennsylvania, and the Beginning of German Emigration to North America". Philadelphia. http://books.google.com/books?id=FERGDSBXMAgC&printsec=titlepage. Retrieved 2007-10-01. p. 141-42. ^ "Brethren in American, Germantown: Mother Congregation". http://www.cob-net.org/america.htm#germantown. Retrieved 2007-10-01. ^ Glatfelter, Charles H. (1980). Pastors and People: German Lutheran and Reformed Churches in the Pennsylvania Field, 1717-1793, vol. 1, Pastors and Congregations. Breinigsville, Pennsylvania. 407-23 ^ Hotchkin, Samuel Fitch (1889). "Ancient and Modern Germantown, Mount Airy, and Chestnut Hill". Philadelphia. http://books.google.com/books?id=20sOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1&dq=pastorius. Retrieved 2007-09-28. , p. 331. [hide] v • d • eNeighborhoods of the Northwest Philadelphia section of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Andorra • Beggarstown • Chestnut Hill • East Falls • Germantown • Manayunk • Morton • Mount Airy • Roxborough • Wissahickon • Wister Center City • North Philadelphia • Northwest Philadelphia • The Northeast • South Philadelphia • Southwest Philadelphia • West Philadelphia Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beggarstown,_Philadelphia,_Pennsylvania" Gene Stackhouse in Germantown Heights. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.

Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:12:39 -0500 Subject: General Meade's Birthday Celebration at LHC, this Thursday 12-31-09, at Noon From: [email protected] TO: MEADE SOCIETY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS, The General George Meade Society of Philadelphia cordially invites you to: GENERAL MEADE’S BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION & NEW YEAR'S TOAST Thursday, December 31 at Noon ***Please arrive early so as not to disrupt the assembly and procession. Admission is free, and all are invited! Following the services a light lunch and refreshments will be served by the Kearney Commissary, a donation is kindly requested 3822 Ridge Avenue, Philadelphia For information, please call 215-228-8200, email [email protected], or visit www.thelaurelhillcemetery.org The annual General Meade Birthday Celebration will mark the 194th anniversary of the birth of General George G. Meade, commander of the Union Army at the Battle of Gettysburg. A parade of Civil War re-enactors, civilians in period attire, special dignitaries, heritage groups and participants will advance to Meade’s final resting place and memorialize his services to his nation. A volley of musket fire and a champagne toast will cap off the program at graveside, and will be followed by a reception in the Cemetery Gatehouse. A tour of historic Laurel Hill will be offered following the festivities (weather permitting). This year marks the 19th anniversary of the Meade Birthday Celebration The General Meade Society's mission is to promote and preserve the memory of Union Major General George Gordon Meade, commander of the Army of the Potomac and architect of the Union victory at Gettysburg. The society currently boasts hundreds of members throughout the country, all of whom share a common interest in General Meade's multifaceted life and career. Activities include: administering the Meade school scholarship, tours of Meade-related sites in Philadelphia, living history presentations, historical symposiums, supporting battlefield preservation, conducting graveside services honoring war heroes and the adoption of the Meade Monument and HQ site in Gettysburg, PA. Learn more about our organization by visiting: http://www.generalmeadesociety.org

Thank you for your help. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "lfenimore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] . Died 1793 Yellow Fever..Carey's List of yellowfevervictums > On the Phila. Gen Web site under publications on the right hand side of > the > page: > > http://www.usgwarchives.org/pa/philadelphia/ > > Liane > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, In addition to genealogy, I volunteer for highschool reunion missing persons searches. I latched on to one today. Steven B. HUNT. I tracked him to Florida and other places, but found he died in Philadelphia. I am hoping someone might have access to his obituary? STEVEN B HUNT 23 Jun 1949 11 May 1994 19107 (Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA) (none specified) 155-40-1876 New Jersey Vince Summers P.S. I finally found the full name and death of a REISKY I sought! Nav C. REISKY was Navarill Casper REISKY. More on him another time...

I'm hoping someone can lookup Josephine WEATHERLY of Philadelphia (born c 1854). Her parents died, and she moved in with her aunt and uncle, the AYRES in 1880. However, I don't see her after that. Almost certainly she married... The name has rarely been mislisted WETHERLY, and even WEATHERLEY. Thanks for any assist... Vince

Thanks, Liane. I've decided these don't tie in with Ceronio after all...- Vince. On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:56 PM, lfenimore <[email protected]> wrote: > I think this couple, if they were indeed married, had a daughter Eleanor. > Catherine's will was probated 1799 and mentions daughter Eleanor and > Eleanor's in 1815 or so.  But in the Phila will abstracts. > > Something I saw indicated that there was an earlier Stephen Cronan who died > in the 1770s.  Might have been on Genealogy Bank and a mention of an estate. > Stephen was possibly Catholic as a man with that name witnessed baps at St. > Mary's Church in Phila. > > Liane > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://www.ehow.com/members/ds_7b3c7914-50da-4602-ad9f-8e0007b16ff9.html http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/333797/vincent_summers.html

I think this couple, if they were indeed married, had a daughter Eleanor. Catherine's will was probated 1799 and mentions daughter Eleanor and Eleanor's in 1815 or so. But in the Phila will abstracts. Something I saw indicated that there was an earlier Stephen Cronan who died in the 1770s. Might have been on Genealogy Bank and a mention of an estate. Stephen was possibly Catholic as a man with that name witnessed baps at St. Mary's Church in Phila. Liane

You don't have access to the details, do you? This sounds like them! The HICKS were not originally from Philadelphia. Vince On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:06 PM, lfenimore <[email protected]> wrote: >>>Does anybody see any CRONOW or something like it from 1791-1794? > > > In the 1790 census there is a Stephen Cronan in Bucks Co. but he was listed > in the militia under Philadelphia in 1780.  There is a letter held at the PO > in Phila in 1791 for Stephen Cronin.  Could Cronow be misread for Cronan? > > There is a Catherine Cronan who wrote her will in 1796, she was a widow. > Perhaps the city directory would help.  Stephen seems to be connected to > shipping as he witnessed wills for several mariners. > > Nothing on him after the 1790 census. > > Liane > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://www.ehow.com/members/ds_7b3c7914-50da-4602-ad9f-8e0007b16ff9.html http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/333797/vincent_summers.html

>>Does anybody see any CRONOW or something like it from 1791-1794? In the 1790 census there is a Stephen Cronan in Bucks Co. but he was listed in the militia under Philadelphia in 1780. There is a letter held at the PO in Phila in 1791 for Stephen Cronin. Could Cronow be misread for Cronan? There is a Catherine Cronan who wrote her will in 1796, she was a widow. Perhaps the city directory would help. Stephen seems to be connected to shipping as he witnessed wills for several mariners. Nothing on him after the 1790 census. Liane

On the Phila. Gen Web site under publications on the right hand side of the page: http://www.usgwarchives.org/pa/philadelphia/ Liane

I am interested in this list. I have information that my 3rd g grandfather, Daniel Offley, a Quacker, died in the yellow fever epidemic. Where is this list avaible? Pat in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vincent E. Summers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:54 PM Subject: [Phly-Rts] CRONOW, sugar boiler... Died 1793 Yellow Fever > This is the first time I've considered this one! In the 1791 City > Directory, there is no such name as CRONOW. Yet, in Carey's list of > Yellow Fever Dead, for August 1793 and into the fall, there is this > CRONOW, sugar boiler listing. I'm sure you can see how it might sound > like CERONIO. In fact, I found one of the family listed overseas > under CRONIO. > > Does anybody see any CRONOW or something like it from 1791-1794? > Stephen is listed in 1791 as a merchant, but maybe he made sugar? He > had been in Hispaniola... > > Thanks! > Vince Summers > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My thanks to all that replied to my query on John Faunce. I'll see what I can find out. I'm thinking he may have been a policeman. My great grandmother Elizabeth McVaugh's Father was a policeman. So maybe John Faunce was a friend of the family. I'll see what I can find out. Once again thanks for the help. Bill Pallatt

This is the first time I've considered this one! In the 1791 City Directory, there is no such name as CRONOW. Yet, in Carey's list of Yellow Fever Dead, for August 1793 and into the fall, there is this CRONOW, sugar boiler listing. I'm sure you can see how it might sound like CERONIO. In fact, I found one of the family listed overseas under CRONIO. Does anybody see any CRONOW or something like it from 1791-1794? Stephen is listed in 1791 as a merchant, but maybe he made sugar? He had been in Hispaniola... Thanks! Vince Summers

This obituary is pasted in the Pallatt family Bible that I have.(Belonged to my Great grandparents) They were married in 1877, so I would say the obit was published after their marriage. Faunce-on the 6th Inst. John Faunce, age 40 years. The relatives and friends of the family, also the officers of the thirtieth police district are respectfully invited to attend the funeral from his late residence 3510 North Second St. Internment at Green Mount There is no date published or what paper. Does anyone recognize this John Faunce? I am trying to find out why this obituary is in the Bible. As far as I can tell no one in my family tree married a Faunce. Thanks for any help Bill Pallatt

Sorry Bill- I transposed the numbers, the obit was from 1895. Kate --- On Wed, 12/23/09, Kate <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kate <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phly-Rts] [PAPhl] John Faunce To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 4:03 PM Hi Bill- According to genealogybank, the obituary was from 12-07-1985. Kate --- On Wed, 12/23/09, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bill <[email protected]> Subject: [PAPhl] John Faunce To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 3:18 PM This obituary is pasted in the Pallatt family Bible that I have.(Belonged to my Great grandparents) They were married in 1877, so I would say the obit was published after their marriage. Faunce-on the 6th Inst. John Faunce, age 40 years. The relatives and friends of the family, also the officers of the thirtieth police district are respectfully invited to attend the funeral from his late residence 3510 North Second St. Internment at Green Mount There is no date published or what paper. Does anyone recognize this John Faunce? I am trying to find out why this obituary is in the Bible. As far as I can tell no one in my family tree married a Faunce. Thanks for any help Bill Pallatt ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bill- According to genealogybank, the obituary was from 12-07-1985. Kate --- On Wed, 12/23/09, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bill <[email protected]> Subject: [PAPhl] John Faunce To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 3:18 PM This obituary is pasted in the Pallatt family Bible that I have.(Belonged to my Great grandparents) They were married in 1877, so I would say the obit was published after their marriage. Faunce-on the 6th Inst. John Faunce, age 40 years. The relatives and friends of the family, also the officers of the thirtieth police district are respectfully invited to attend the funeral from his late residence 3510 North Second St. Internment at Green Mount There is no date published or what paper. Does anyone recognize this John Faunce? I am trying to find out why this obituary is in the Bible. As far as I can tell no one in my family tree married a Faunce. Thanks for any help Bill Pallatt ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry I was not able to find him in GenealogyBAnk. Maybe someone else will have better luck. Do you have his death certificate from Familysearch? Marian in Virginia Beach ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Hamilton<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: [Phly-Rts] Obit Alexander Watkins If anyone has access to GenealogyBank.com would you kindly look for an obitary notice for ALEXANDER L. WATKINS. He died March 2, 1877, age 52. 1325 Austin street to Odd Fellows Cemetery. Thank you, Jane ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHILLY-ROOTS> ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message