This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/4323.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry, but I don't have anything on any Phillps or Payne family going past 1840s or so. Haven't traced collateral lines at all in either of these families, so unfortunately, I can't help. Larry