This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/5405.3 Message Board Post: you will have to make some correction; thomas phillips is known as sir esquire henry vll born 1439 not 1466 d 1550 castlebythe, wales married to jane dwinn (not donne) in 1490 muddle- -scombe, wales == she born 1475 winton, wales thomas was also married to elizabeth bowen about 1545/7 llwyngwair,wales == she was b 1526 daugh of sir james b and mary hale Acording to my notes thomas and jane has 13 children and from the second marriage is unknown at this time. the list of the 13 children as followed; john (sir knight of cilsant) b1502 christopher b1504 owen (sir lord &sheriff) b 1505 john-dyer b1506/7 richard b 1507/8 janet (female) 1509 anne (female) b 1511) thomas 1514 shropshire, eng hugh lewis* b 1515==== this is my my branch william (sir knight) b 1517 mary (female) b1518 janet (female) b 1519 jane (female) b1520/1 I hope this will help you and further thomas parents are philip (lord of cilsant) and janet lloyd philip b1415 son of maredudd and gwen evans maredudd (lord cilsant) son of llwch llawen fawr and ellen caradog llwch llawen fawr might has gone by the name philip b1344 cilsant, wales this is the part i need to verified ******************* philip father is madog ap ieuan ieuan (*?Evan) ap madof madof ap gwilymap arron ap rhys ap bledri latimer ap cadifor (lord of dyfed?) ap collwyn ,lord dyfed that all i can give you at this monent your truly edward phillips at [email protected]