Wanda Pitt wrote: >Father's and mother's birthplace for Elezabeth, Hermann and Mary Anna >Bergfeld all listed as "OLD" >Hope someone can enlighten me! >Thanks, >Wanda > >Household Record 1880 United States Census > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation >Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > > Elezabeth BERGFELD Self W Female W 66 OLD Keeps House OLD >OLD > Hermann BERGFELD Son M Male W 32 OH Farmer OLD OLD > Mary Anna BERGFELD DauL M Female W 19 IL Keeps House OLD >OLD > Sarah BASS Other W Female W 50 IN Keeps House IN IN > Herris BASS Other S Male W 3 IL IL IL > FOREIGN COUNTRY ABBREVIATIONS Cor Corsica Eng England Fra France Ger Germany Gua Guadaloupe Han Hanover Ire Ireland LC Lower Canada Old Oldenburg Pru Prussia Sax Saxony Sco Scotland Swi Switzerland Unk unknown Wal Wales Oldenburg A grand duchy, one of the twenty-six federated states of the German Empire. It consists of three widely separated parts: the duchy of Oldenburg; the principality of Lübeck, situated between Holstein and Mecklenburg; and the principality of Birkenfeld, in Rhenish Prussia. The duchy is bounded by the North Sea, and by Hanover, It has an area of 2571 sq. miles and (1 Dec., 1905) 438,856 inhabitants. Oldenburg has 2134 sq. miles and 353,789 inhabitants; Lübeck, 217 sq. miles and 38,583 inhabitants; and Birkenfeld, 202 sq. miles and 46,484 inhabitants. Regards, Herb Savage

Ah-ha, this computes! This is probably near or includes the area known as Alsace which was conquered by Prussia, France, Germany, etc over many years. I am pretty sure Mary Anna Clark Bergfeld's mother was Mary Sophia Masqualet b abt 1822 in Alsace France, married (1st) 1847 John Wesley Phillips of Effingham Co, IL and (2nd) 1858 Joseph Clark of Effingham Co, IL. Thank you, Herb! Wanda -----Original Message----- From: Herb Savage [mailto:herb@perftech.com] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:24 PM To: PHILLIPS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] 1880 census Wanda Pitt wrote: >Father's and mother's birthplace for Elezabeth, Hermann and Mary Anna >Bergfeld all listed as "OLD" >Hope someone can enlighten me! >Thanks, >Wanda > >Household Record 1880 United States Census > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation >Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > > Elezabeth BERGFELD Self W Female W 66 OLD Keeps House OLD >OLD > Hermann BERGFELD Son M Male W 32 OH Farmer OLD OLD > Mary Anna BERGFELD DauL M Female W 19 IL Keeps House OLD >OLD > Sarah BASS Other W Female W 50 IN Keeps House IN IN > Herris BASS Other S Male W 3 IL IL IL > FOREIGN COUNTRY ABBREVIATIONS Cor Corsica Eng England Fra France Ger Germany Gua Guadaloupe Han Hanover Ire Ireland LC Lower Canada Old Oldenburg Pru Prussia Sax Saxony Sco Scotland Swi Switzerland Unk unknown Wal Wales Oldenburg A grand duchy, one of the twenty-six federated states of the German Empire. It consists of three widely separated parts: the duchy of Oldenburg; the principality of Lübeck, situated between Holstein and Mecklenburg; and the principality of Birkenfeld, in Rhenish Prussia. The duchy is bounded by the North Sea, and by Hanover, It has an area of 2571 sq. miles and (1 Dec., 1905) 438,856 inhabitants. Oldenburg has 2134 sq. miles and 353,789 inhabitants; Lübeck, 217 sq. miles and 38,583 inhabitants; and Birkenfeld, 202 sq. miles and 46,484 inhabitants. Regards, Herb Savage