This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/5692.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Teressa, I have found Florence Elizabeth Phillips on the 1881 census age 7 living in Orpington, Bromley, Kent. I also found a John Newman age 12 b. Lambeth, Surrey, living in Orpington, the son of John and Marry Ann Newman but until I have more information about the Newman family I can't bve certain that this is the John Charels I'm looking for. Thank you for replying to my query. Best wishes Doris