Wales is only one of several dozen countries that has one or more versions of "son of Philip," and Wales was NOT the first to use a variation of "son of Philip." Among others, both Hindi and Sikh Indians, Turks and Turk Cypriots (Muslim countries) have their versions of "son of Philip?" Phillips is one of many variations of "son of Philip" worldwide, including middle Africa. There are about 300 variations of the surname Phillips, over 750 using Soundex. So why is it so hard to believe that Native Americans either adopted the surname Phillips, or had/have their own variation of "son of Philip?" The original Welsh variation was Philipps and is used rarely now. Phillips is now the most common, followed by Philips. True descendant claimants of the Welsh Philipps have changed their ancestors names to Phillips to fit their own surnames on several Internet published pedigrees. For Captain Bryan, true to your guidance (thank you), I have found evidence that the Welsh Philipps family, not the surname, can trace its ancestry to Magnus Maximus and beyond to Constantine the Great, The Ruler of the Holy Roman Empire. Also Cydifor Fawr (The Great), in this family line, was probably one of the original 15 ancient Welsh peerages named by William the Conqueror. Cydifor Fawr lived between 1030 AD and 1091 AD and his son, Bledri Latimer (The Interpreter), was the go between the Normans and the Welsh. The tie to Magnus Maximus is a fun legend and even may be true, but the information on Cydifor Fawr has solid documentation. Doug Phillips

I readily believe that the name has been adopted by all sorts of folk. we are nothing of not Fecund Fillips ther is no significance in spelling variations. It is simply due to the fact when there we few people able to write and even fewer able to read , there was no way to convey or maintain any particular spelling. I simply said "it is not an Indian name" bryan Quoting [email protected]: > Wales is only one of several dozen countries that has one or more versions > of "son of Philip," and Wales was NOT the first to use a variation of "son of > > Philip." > > Among others, both Hindi and Sikh Indians, Turks and Turk Cypriots (Muslim > countries) have their versions of "son of Philip?" > > Phillips is one of many variations of "son of Philip" worldwide, including > middle Africa. > There are about 300 variations of the surname Phillips, over 750 using > Soundex. > > > So why is it so hard to believe that Native Americans either adopted the > surname Phillips, or had/have their own variation of "son of Philip?" > > > The original Welsh variation was Philipps and is used rarely now. Phillips > > is now the most common, followed by Philips. > > True descendant claimants of the Welsh Philipps have changed their ancestors > > names to Phillips to fit their own surnames on several Internet published > pedigrees. > > For Captain Bryan, true to your guidance (thank you), I have found evidence > > that the Welsh Philipps family, not the surname, can trace its ancestry to > Magnus Maximus and beyond to Constantine the Great, The Ruler of the Holy > Roman > Empire. > > Also Cydifor Fawr (The Great), in this family line, was probably one of the > > original 15 ancient Welsh peerages named by William the Conqueror. Cydifor > > Fawr lived between 1030 AD and 1091 AD and his son, Bledri Latimer (The > Interpreter), was the go between the Normans and the Welsh. > > The tie to Magnus Maximus is a fun legend and even may be true, but the > information on Cydifor Fawr has solid documentation. > > Doug Phillips > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net