Martha, Until I did my DNA test I thought I had a pretty good feel and quite a bit of documentation that took me back to Michael Phillips, Rhode Island. Now I'm just very confused. My test results put my Haplogroup at I1a. and not matching any Phillips DNA test results. I have a tremendous amount of documentation on my gggrandfather Solomon Phillips, believed to have been born in Rhode Island (per children's reportings in Census reports). He enlisted in the Continental Army in Uxbridge, MA in late 1775 and served until the capture of prisoners at Trenton, NJ, December 26, 1776. My research took me to Glocester, RI, and the will of a David Phillips d1797. His will named his children and a Solomon Phillips was named as a son. He also named a John and Caleb as sons in the will. Two witnesses that signed Solomon Phillips Revolutionary War Pension Application were named John and Caleb. I was in Rhode Island this last summer looking for more documentation to tie my Solomon Phillips to David Phillips will. The will gave Solomon and another of David's sons Joseph Phillips a piece of land. Looking through land records I found that Solomon Phillips sold his share of the land in the fall of 1798 and the deed specified that Solomon's wife Susanna gave up her dower rights. My Solomon married Susanna Willson July 12, 1798. Therefore, I felt with the land sale and other documentation my Solomon was indeed the son of David Phillips of Glocester, RI and his second wife Susanna Bumpus. According to Solomon's age at his death he would have been born around 1759/60. Further research on the background of David Phillips led me to his father Joseph Phillips and mother Elizabeth Malavery of Providence, RI. Joseph was born about 1663 to Michael Phillips and Barbara Pierce according to the Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island written by John Osborne Austin. By the way, some additional research of David Phillips determined that he married his first wife, Ruth Benson, 1727 in Providence, RI. She is the ggrandaughter of Edward Bumpas who came to America on the ship Fortune in 1621. David married his second wife, Susanna Bumpus in 1741. She is also a ggranddaughter of Edward Bumpas via another descendant. Anyway, now you know how I got back to Michael Phillips. I was quite surprised and disappointed when my DNA test results did not match up with Group 11. And, since I am considered a singular in the Phillips DNA project I'll have to try to find a distant Phillips male cousin to take the DNA test or track down non-Phillips DNA matches. Thanks for responding, Martha, and good luck with your research. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Matthews" <marthafromwa@webtv.net> To: <phillips@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS]Looking for information on my GGG GrandfatherHenry Phillips > Hi Roger, I would be so happy to share information with you. Our > Phillips group is in #11 also. This is my line of descent from Michael > Phillips, James Phillips, Joshua Phillips, Gideon Phillips, Reuben > Phillips, Joseph Phillips, Clayton Phillips. Sarah Phillips Wright, my > father Phillips F. Wright and then myself. Michael lived in Newport RI > and died in 1689, his sons moved to North Smithfield RI, Joshua the son > of James moved his family to Hubbardston and Rutland Mass. Gideon moved > his family to Roxbury NH. Joseph moved his family to Missouri and his > son Clayton moved his family to Washington Terr. in 1886 and I'am here > in Yakima WA. The wives in order were Barbara Pierce, Mary Mowery, > Freelove Paine, Chloe Shattuck, Rebecca Foster, Deborah Hardy, Elvira > Golden, Tell me about your family and I will start going thru my papers. > I'am so happy to hear from you and I will help you every way I can. > Sincerely yours, Martha > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PHILLIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1260 - Release Date: 2/5/2008 > 9:44 AM > >

Roger & everyone, I think a lot of us are "stumped" in our own way, with our own proverbial "brick wall." Looking at those who are grouped in group 11, only one member actually claims to trace their earliest known ancestor to Michael Phillips of Rhode Island. As my Y-DNA places me in this group, I have been trying to figure out how I might connect, and still have been unable to push back past my g-g-grandfather, Jonathan Phillips 1794-1868 of Hastings County, Ontario, Canada. According to the earliest documentation I have, his discharge papers from the Glengarry Light Infantry Fencibles in 1815, he was reportedly born "in or near Cloverick, in or near Albany, New York." The only other reference is a published obituary which includes a sketch of his experiences fighting the American invasion of Canada; and states that he was born in Dutchess County, New York, and moved to Canada with his family in 1809. Right now there are just over 200 members who have had their Y-DNA tested and joined the group. We need more. I think we need a lot more. And we need to be able to see how they connect a lot clearer than we do now. I suspect that most of us have tried to do a straight line descent trace, and not made notes on all the branches. But, it's all those other branches that will help others to make a connection. Also, just because one person in the group connects to a given early colonist in the New World does not mean all other persons in the group will connect at the same point. It is possible that Michael Phillips of Rhode Island had a brother or a cousin who moved to the colonies at another time. I have ordered the full 37 marker test. So far they have posted the 25 marker results, and I am waiting for the full 37 marker results, hopefully by the end of the month. Still, that will only get me to a 90+% probability of direct relationship within a given number of generations, perhaps 300 to 400 years. It's interesting, but it doesn't nail anything down. In the meantime, I encourage everyone to continue to recruit more Phillips to submit samples, and continue to dig out all the possible roots and branches; especially those Phillips' out there who we know are not related to us. Just my thoughts. Bob Phillips Columbus, Ohio