I understand slaves also sometimes simply took the names of their owners, did anyone make slaves of American Indians? but you and I know we are talking of descendents of Phillips people from well before 1492 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 14 October 2006 12:19 Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > Who is starting a thing..this is important geneology information. So yes, > someone could be born with the Phillips name and be full blood indian...if > they were a child of someone that took the name during the "round up" and or > their descendants. > > :) > > Tootles > Sharon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:39 AM > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > Not guilty ! I did say "Born with ". > > > > Let's not start a thingy about what is a persons true name ?. Someone > once > > said "Until I was 14 yrs. old I thought my name was "Shuttup" [Sat. > > joke ]. > > > > Bryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: 14 October 2006 05:39 > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > Not exactly true.. > > > > > > When the trail of tears took place and native americans were taken into > > > captive and forced to be educated, often the school nun (typically a nun > > and > > > not a reg. school teacher) would list on the board common "english" > > surnames > > > and the students were forced to choose one. So in all actuality, they > > could > > > have "adopted" the name and still have been a full blood. > > > > > > Tootles > > > Sharon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:34 PM > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > Unless (unlikely) the cherokee tribe spontaneously invented the name > > > > 'Phillips' then anyone who was born with the surname PHILLIPS was the > > > > offspring of some British male immigrant and hence never > > "full-blooded > > > > indian" > > > > > > > > Bryan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Sally Phillips" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: 13 October 2006 15:39 > > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband / siblings grew up "knowing" (oral history) that there > was > > > > > American Indian in their ancestry, but the origin is unknown. His > > > > PHILLIPS > > > > > roots are predominantly western MA with a little spill-over into > > Vernon > > > > and > > > > > Guilford,VT. I suspect the native line may be a maternal one since > > the > > > > > PHILLIPS line traces back to Rev. George PHILLIPS who "came with > Gov. > > > > > Winthrop on the 'Arbella' in 1630." ~Sally > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:54 PM > > > > > Subject: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7590 > > > > > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for anyone with the Phillips name with Indian heritage. > > Can't > > > > find > > > > > > anything on my gr gr grandmother who's maiden name was Phillips > and > > > she > > > > > > was full blooded indian. I have been told that she was cherokee > but > > > have > > > > > > no proof of that, I am sure she was indian as I have a picture of > > her. > > > > > > Anything would help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > > > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: > > > > > > 01/10/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes it is true slaves did take the last name of their owner which could introduce african american Phillips as well as mulatto and other mixes.....and sometimes natives lived among the slaves to avoid removal....likewise sometimes natives were enslaved as well... Actually, the topic ,as I read it, was all born with the Phillips last name could not be full blood...which was what I was addressing.... :) Tootles Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > I understand slaves also sometimes simply took the names of their owners, > did anyone make slaves of American Indians? but you and I know we are > talking of descendents of Phillips people from well before 1492 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 14 October 2006 12:19 > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > Who is starting a thing..this is important geneology information. So yes, > > someone could be born with the Phillips name and be full blood indian...if > > they were a child of someone that took the name during the "round up" and > or > > their descendants. > > > > :) > > > > Tootles > > Sharon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:39 AM > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > Not guilty ! I did say "Born with ". > > > > > > Let's not start a thingy about what is a persons true name ?. Someone > > once > > > said "Until I was 14 yrs. old I thought my name was "Shuttup" [Sat. > > > joke ]. > > > > > > Bryan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: 14 October 2006 05:39 > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > Not exactly true.. > > > > > > > > When the trail of tears took place and native americans were taken > into > > > > captive and forced to be educated, often the school nun (typically a > nun > > > and > > > > not a reg. school teacher) would list on the board common "english" > > > surnames > > > > and the students were forced to choose one. So in all actuality, they > > > could > > > > have "adopted" the name and still have been a full blood. > > > > > > > > Tootles > > > > Sharon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:34 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless (unlikely) the cherokee tribe spontaneously invented the name > > > > > 'Phillips' then anyone who was born with the surname PHILLIPS was > the > > > > > offspring of some British male immigrant and hence never > > > "full-blooded > > > > > indian" > > > > > > > > > > Bryan > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Sally Phillips" <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: 13 October 2006 15:39 > > > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband / siblings grew up "knowing" (oral history) that there > > was > > > > > > American Indian in their ancestry, but the origin is unknown. His > > > > > PHILLIPS > > > > > > roots are predominantly western MA with a little spill-over into > > > Vernon > > > > > and > > > > > > Guilford,VT. I suspect the native line may be a maternal one > since > > > the > > > > > > PHILLIPS line traces back to Rev. George PHILLIPS who "came with > > Gov. > > > > > > Winthrop on the 'Arbella' in 1630." ~Sally > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:54 PM > > > > > > Subject: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7590 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for anyone with the Phillips name with Indian heritage. > > > Can't > > > > > find > > > > > > > anything on my gr gr grandmother who's maiden name was Phillips > > and > > > > she > > > > > > > was full blooded indian. I have been told that she was cherokee > > but > > > > have > > > > > > > no proof of that, I am sure she was indian as I have a picture > of > > > her. > > > > > > > Anything would help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the > > > > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: > > > > > > > 01/10/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > > quotes > > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For that matter, England has Phillips Bicycles ....but not descended from Vortigern... I shall put Tootles into Google.. Bryan (Phillips by birthright ) ;-)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 14 October 2006 20:43 Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > Yes it is true slaves did take the last name of their owner which could > introduce african american Phillips as well as mulatto and other > mixes.....and sometimes natives lived among the slaves to avoid > removal....likewise sometimes natives were enslaved as well... > > Actually, the topic ,as I read it, was all born with the Phillips last name > could not be full blood...which was what I was addressing.... > > :) > > Tootles > Sharon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:13 PM > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > I understand slaves also sometimes simply took the names of their owners, > > did anyone make slaves of American Indians? but you and I know we are > > talking of descendents of Phillips people from well before 1492 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: 14 October 2006 12:19 > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > Who is starting a thing..this is important geneology information. So > yes, > > > someone could be born with the Phillips name and be full blood > indian...if > > > they were a child of someone that took the name during the "round up" > and > > or > > > their descendants. > > > > > > :) > > > > > > Tootles > > > Sharon > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:39 AM > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > Not guilty ! I did say "Born with ". > > > > > > > > Let's not start a thingy about what is a persons true name ?. Someone > > > once > > > > said "Until I was 14 yrs. old I thought my name was "Shuttup" > [Sat. > > > > joke ]. > > > > > > > > Bryan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: 14 October 2006 05:39 > > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not exactly true.. > > > > > > > > > > When the trail of tears took place and native americans were taken > > into > > > > > captive and forced to be educated, often the school nun (typically a > > nun > > > > and > > > > > not a reg. school teacher) would list on the board common "english" > > > > surnames > > > > > and the students were forced to choose one. So in all actuality, > they > > > > could > > > > > have "adopted" the name and still have been a full blood. > > > > > > > > > > Tootles > > > > > Sharon > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:34 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless (unlikely) the cherokee tribe spontaneously invented the > name > > > > > > 'Phillips' then anyone who was born with the surname PHILLIPS was > > the > > > > > > offspring of some British male immigrant and hence never > > > > "full-blooded > > > > > > indian" > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Sally Phillips" <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: 13 October 2006 15:39 > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband / siblings grew up "knowing" (oral history) that > there > > > was > > > > > > > American Indian in their ancestry, but the origin is unknown. > His > > > > > > PHILLIPS > > > > > > > roots are predominantly western MA with a little spill-over into > > > > Vernon > > > > > > and > > > > > > > Guilford,VT. I suspect the native line may be a maternal one > > since > > > > the > > > > > > > PHILLIPS line traces back to Rev. George PHILLIPS who "came with > > > Gov. > > > > > > > Winthrop on the 'Arbella' in 1630." ~Sally > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:54 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7590 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for anyone with the Phillips name with Indian > heritage. > > > > Can't > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > anything on my gr gr grandmother who's maiden name was > Phillips > > > and > > > > > she > > > > > > > > was full blooded indian. I have been told that she was > cherokee > > > but > > > > > have > > > > > > > > no proof of that, I am sure she was indian as I have a picture > > of > > > > her. > > > > > > > > Anything would help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > > > the > > > > > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release > Date: > > > > > > > > 01/10/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > > > quotes > > > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > > quotes > > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >