This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Phillips, Dyer, Howe, Martin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/5608.4 Message Board Post: Sandra, I have also incorporated the middle name "Fretwell" in my research. Unfortunately, validated info gets mixed with bad info. Years ago, a research from the Kittle side of the family said that Thomas Phillips came from England and had proof of such. A. J. Phillips did some early research on Thomas Phillips and had him back to the New England Phillips' (Rev. George Phillips of the Massachusetts Bay Colong). I saw some of his work in print, but Thomas Phillips' name had been penciled in under Jonathan and Hepzibah (Parker) Phillips. I always wondered about the indecision! Also, where and how does Crab Creek come into the picture? My uncle, Keith Phillips, travelled to Beverly, WVa., years ago and found nothing about these facts. (?) Hmmm!