In a message dated 10/9/2006 1:30:28 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I was interested in your William Strothers Phillips My Warner Phillips married Mariah Stroyhers in Shelby Co Tenn in 1840 They moved to Lamar co Texas where Warner died in 11850 I hope this connects Jane

I understand slaves also sometimes simply took the names of their owners, did anyone make slaves of American Indians? but you and I know we are talking of descendents of Phillips people from well before 1492 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 14 October 2006 12:19 Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > Who is starting a thing..this is important geneology information. So yes, > someone could be born with the Phillips name and be full blood indian...if > they were a child of someone that took the name during the "round up" and or > their descendants. > > :) > > Tootles > Sharon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:39 AM > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > Not guilty ! I did say "Born with ". > > > > Let's not start a thingy about what is a persons true name ?. Someone > once > > said "Until I was 14 yrs. old I thought my name was "Shuttup" [Sat. > > joke ]. > > > > Bryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: 14 October 2006 05:39 > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > Not exactly true.. > > > > > > When the trail of tears took place and native americans were taken into > > > captive and forced to be educated, often the school nun (typically a nun > > and > > > not a reg. school teacher) would list on the board common "english" > > surnames > > > and the students were forced to choose one. So in all actuality, they > > could > > > have "adopted" the name and still have been a full blood. > > > > > > Tootles > > > Sharon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:34 PM > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > Unless (unlikely) the cherokee tribe spontaneously invented the name > > > > 'Phillips' then anyone who was born with the surname PHILLIPS was the > > > > offspring of some British male immigrant and hence never > > "full-blooded > > > > indian" > > > > > > > > Bryan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Sally Phillips" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: 13 October 2006 15:39 > > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband / siblings grew up "knowing" (oral history) that there > was > > > > > American Indian in their ancestry, but the origin is unknown. His > > > > PHILLIPS > > > > > roots are predominantly western MA with a little spill-over into > > Vernon > > > > and > > > > > Guilford,VT. I suspect the native line may be a maternal one since > > the > > > > > PHILLIPS line traces back to Rev. George PHILLIPS who "came with > Gov. > > > > > Winthrop on the 'Arbella' in 1630." ~Sally > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:54 PM > > > > > Subject: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7590 > > > > > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for anyone with the Phillips name with Indian heritage. > > Can't > > > > find > > > > > > anything on my gr gr grandmother who's maiden name was Phillips > and > > > she > > > > > > was full blooded indian. I have been told that she was cherokee > but > > > have > > > > > > no proof of that, I am sure she was indian as I have a picture of > > her. > > > > > > Anything would help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > > > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: > > > > > > 01/10/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

All Phillips lines originated in Wales ? Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy L" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 14 October 2006 15:29 Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] PHILLIPS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 28 > My Phillips line also originated in Wales. My earliest records are only from the 1800's (but I have just started not too long ago and have not devoted a lot of time to it yet). However, my line ended up in Western Maryland. Any chance this connects? > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "Posey, Sandra" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:19:17 AM > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] PHILLIPS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 28 > > > My Phillips line dates back to Wales and came to the US in about 1636. > That person was Matthew Phillips one of the early settlers of Virginia. > My line then moved to the Gibson Co. and Humboldt area of TN and > possible lived other places in TN before coming to Red River Co. TX > between 1850 and 1860. > > Do any of you have Phillips family members who might match up to these > dates and places? > > Sandra Phillips Posey > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: PHILLIPS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 28 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: false information about Phillips Family ofWestVirginia > (captbrian) > 2. Re: false information about Phillips Family ofWestVirginia > ([email protected]) > 3. Re: phillips dna project (Alton G. Rogers) > 4. Phillips ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:27:23 +0100 > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] false information about Phillips Family > ofWestVirginia > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > FYI , > > the Lord Chief Justice of England is a PHILLIPS. > > Also the 'Chairman of the Racial Commission' is Trevor PHILLIPS ; he is > a > black gentleman . > > Queen's grandaughter is Zara PHILLIPS. > > Get busy team; We PHILLIPS are nothing if not an entrepreneurial clan. > > Bryan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 12 October 2006 03:31 > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] false information about Phillips Family > ofWestVirginia > > > > > > In a message dated 10/11/2006 10:08:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > must be very stupid here. If the > > > > "name of the participant is never published thereby assuring privacy > " > > > > then how can other people make use of the information? > > > > Bryan > > > > > > > > Usually its by kit number, not name. You know your kit number. > > Best, Mike MOore > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:37:22 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] false information about Phillips Family > ofWestVirginia > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > We are very busy, but would welcome your vast knowledge of clan, and > your > participation. > > Doug > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:37:49 -0500 > From: "Alton G. Rogers" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] phillips dna project > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Is your William Price Phillips, b: abt 1940 and son of Oliver Wendel > "Wink" > Phillips and Ethel Joyce COOK from Brazoria County, Texas? > > Alton Gayle Rogers > Manvel, Texas (20 miles south of Houston) > http://users2/ev1.net/~agrogers > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: 12 Oct 2006 12:25:31 -0600 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [PHILLIPS] Phillips > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/nNABAIB/7609 > > Message Board Post: > > I'm searching for information about Aelwen Phillips. I believe she came > from the porth area, mid glamorgan, south wales. Born in July 1923, died > sadly in Dec 1998. She married Hywel Watkins the watch maker, who now > resides in Ton Pentre, south wales. > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PHILLIPS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the PHILLIPS mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PHILLIPS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 28 > *************************************** > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes it is true slaves did take the last name of their owner which could introduce african american Phillips as well as mulatto and other mixes.....and sometimes natives lived among the slaves to avoid removal....likewise sometimes natives were enslaved as well... Actually, the topic ,as I read it, was all born with the Phillips last name could not be full blood...which was what I was addressing.... :) Tootles Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > I understand slaves also sometimes simply took the names of their owners, > did anyone make slaves of American Indians? but you and I know we are > talking of descendents of Phillips people from well before 1492 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 14 October 2006 12:19 > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > Who is starting a thing..this is important geneology information. So yes, > > someone could be born with the Phillips name and be full blood indian...if > > they were a child of someone that took the name during the "round up" and > or > > their descendants. > > > > :) > > > > Tootles > > Sharon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:39 AM > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > Not guilty ! I did say "Born with ". > > > > > > Let's not start a thingy about what is a persons true name ?. Someone > > once > > > said "Until I was 14 yrs. old I thought my name was "Shuttup" [Sat. > > > joke ]. > > > > > > Bryan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: 14 October 2006 05:39 > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > Not exactly true.. > > > > > > > > When the trail of tears took place and native americans were taken > into > > > > captive and forced to be educated, often the school nun (typically a > nun > > > and > > > > not a reg. school teacher) would list on the board common "english" > > > surnames > > > > and the students were forced to choose one. So in all actuality, they > > > could > > > > have "adopted" the name and still have been a full blood. > > > > > > > > Tootles > > > > Sharon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:34 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless (unlikely) the cherokee tribe spontaneously invented the name > > > > > 'Phillips' then anyone who was born with the surname PHILLIPS was > the > > > > > offspring of some British male immigrant and hence never > > > "full-blooded > > > > > indian" > > > > > > > > > > Bryan > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Sally Phillips" <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: 13 October 2006 15:39 > > > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband / siblings grew up "knowing" (oral history) that there > > was > > > > > > American Indian in their ancestry, but the origin is unknown. His > > > > > PHILLIPS > > > > > > roots are predominantly western MA with a little spill-over into > > > Vernon > > > > > and > > > > > > Guilford,VT. I suspect the native line may be a maternal one > since > > > the > > > > > > PHILLIPS line traces back to Rev. George PHILLIPS who "came with > > Gov. > > > > > > Winthrop on the 'Arbella' in 1630." ~Sally > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:54 PM > > > > > > Subject: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7590 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for anyone with the Phillips name with Indian heritage. > > > Can't > > > > > find > > > > > > > anything on my gr gr grandmother who's maiden name was Phillips > > and > > > > she > > > > > > > was full blooded indian. I have been told that she was cherokee > > but > > > > have > > > > > > > no proof of that, I am sure she was indian as I have a picture > of > > > her. > > > > > > > Anything would help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the > > > > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: > > > > > > > 01/10/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > > quotes > > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not guilty ! I did say "Born with ". Let's not start a thingy about what is a persons true name ?. Someone once said "Until I was 14 yrs. old I thought my name was "Shuttup" [Sat. joke ]. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 14 October 2006 05:39 Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > Not exactly true.. > > When the trail of tears took place and native americans were taken into > captive and forced to be educated, often the school nun (typically a nun and > not a reg. school teacher) would list on the board common "english" surnames > and the students were forced to choose one. So in all actuality, they could > have "adopted" the name and still have been a full blood. > > Tootles > Sharon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:34 PM > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > Unless (unlikely) the cherokee tribe spontaneously invented the name > > 'Phillips' then anyone who was born with the surname PHILLIPS was the > > offspring of some British male immigrant and hence never "full-blooded > > indian" > > > > Bryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sally Phillips" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: 13 October 2006 15:39 > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > My husband / siblings grew up "knowing" (oral history) that there was > > > American Indian in their ancestry, but the origin is unknown. His > > PHILLIPS > > > roots are predominantly western MA with a little spill-over into Vernon > > and > > > Guilford,VT. I suspect the native line may be a maternal one since the > > > PHILLIPS line traces back to Rev. George PHILLIPS who "came with Gov. > > > Winthrop on the 'Arbella' in 1630." ~Sally > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:54 PM > > > Subject: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7590 > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > Looking for anyone with the Phillips name with Indian heritage. Can't > > find > > > > anything on my gr gr grandmother who's maiden name was Phillips and > she > > > > was full blooded indian. I have been told that she was cherokee but > have > > > > no proof of that, I am sure she was indian as I have a picture of her. > > > > Anything would help > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: > > > > 01/10/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My Phillips line also originated in Wales. My earliest records are only from the 1800's (but I have just started not too long ago and have not devoted a lot of time to it yet). However, my line ended up in Western Maryland. Any chance this connects? ----- Original Message ---- From: "Posey, Sandra" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:19:17 AM Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] PHILLIPS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 28 My Phillips line dates back to Wales and came to the US in about 1636. That person was Matthew Phillips one of the early settlers of Virginia. My line then moved to the Gibson Co. and Humboldt area of TN and possible lived other places in TN before coming to Red River Co. TX between 1850 and 1860. Do any of you have Phillips family members who might match up to these dates and places? Sandra Phillips Posey -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: PHILLIPS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 28 Today's Topics: 1. Re: false information about Phillips Family ofWestVirginia (captbrian) 2. Re: false information about Phillips Family ofWestVirginia ([email protected]) 3. Re: phillips dna project (Alton G. Rogers) 4. Phillips ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:27:23 +0100 From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] false information about Phillips Family ofWestVirginia To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" FYI , the Lord Chief Justice of England is a PHILLIPS. Also the 'Chairman of the Racial Commission' is Trevor PHILLIPS ; he is a black gentleman . Queen's grandaughter is Zara PHILLIPS. Get busy team; We PHILLIPS are nothing if not an entrepreneurial clan. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 12 October 2006 03:31 Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] false information about Phillips Family ofWestVirginia > > In a message dated 10/11/2006 10:08:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > must be very stupid here. If the > > "name of the participant is never published thereby assuring privacy " > > then how can other people make use of the information? > > Bryan > > > > Usually its by kit number, not name. You know your kit number. > Best, Mike MOore > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:37:22 EDT From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] false information about Phillips Family ofWestVirginia To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" We are very busy, but would welcome your vast knowledge of clan, and your participation. Doug ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:37:49 -0500 From: "Alton G. Rogers" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] phillips dna project To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Is your William Price Phillips, b: abt 1940 and son of Oliver Wendel "Wink" Phillips and Ethel Joyce COOK from Brazoria County, Texas? Alton Gayle Rogers Manvel, Texas (20 miles south of Houston) http://users2/ev1.net/~agrogers ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: 12 Oct 2006 12:25:31 -0600 From: [email protected] Subject: [PHILLIPS] Phillips To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/nNABAIB/7609 Message Board Post: I'm searching for information about Aelwen Phillips. I believe she came from the porth area, mid glamorgan, south wales. Born in July 1923, died sadly in Dec 1998. She married Hywel Watkins the watch maker, who now resides in Ton Pentre, south wales. ------------------------------ To contact the PHILLIPS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the PHILLIPS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PHILLIPS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 28 *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Who is starting a thing..this is important geneology information. So yes, someone could be born with the Phillips name and be full blood indian...if they were a child of someone that took the name during the "round up" and or their descendants. :) Tootles Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:39 AM Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > Not guilty ! I did say "Born with ". > > Let's not start a thingy about what is a persons true name ?. Someone once > said "Until I was 14 yrs. old I thought my name was "Shuttup" [Sat. > joke ]. > > Bryan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 14 October 2006 05:39 > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > Not exactly true.. > > > > When the trail of tears took place and native americans were taken into > > captive and forced to be educated, often the school nun (typically a nun > and > > not a reg. school teacher) would list on the board common "english" > surnames > > and the students were forced to choose one. So in all actuality, they > could > > have "adopted" the name and still have been a full blood. > > > > Tootles > > Sharon > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > Unless (unlikely) the cherokee tribe spontaneously invented the name > > > 'Phillips' then anyone who was born with the surname PHILLIPS was the > > > offspring of some British male immigrant and hence never > "full-blooded > > > indian" > > > > > > Bryan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sally Phillips" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: 13 October 2006 15:39 > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > My husband / siblings grew up "knowing" (oral history) that there was > > > > American Indian in their ancestry, but the origin is unknown. His > > > PHILLIPS > > > > roots are predominantly western MA with a little spill-over into > Vernon > > > and > > > > Guilford,VT. I suspect the native line may be a maternal one since > the > > > > PHILLIPS line traces back to Rev. George PHILLIPS who "came with Gov. > > > > Winthrop on the 'Arbella' in 1630." ~Sally > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:54 PM > > > > Subject: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7590 > > > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > > > Looking for anyone with the Phillips name with Indian heritage. > Can't > > > find > > > > > anything on my gr gr grandmother who's maiden name was Phillips and > > she > > > > > was full blooded indian. I have been told that she was cherokee but > > have > > > > > no proof of that, I am sure she was indian as I have a picture of > her. > > > > > Anything would help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: > > > > > 01/10/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good try Nancy ! but That doesn't seem to get me to a list of 'earliest known ancestors' but only to a page of notes about haplogs and things.. Where is the list of "earliest known ancestors " ? Bryan PHILLIPS ----- Original Message ----- From: <Phillips Worldwide website> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 14 October 2006 02:21 Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] false information about Phillips Family of WestVirginia > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/5608.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > Another mail lister asked me for a link to the DNA chart that is posted at Phillips Worldwide. Since I think this could be a question that many Phillips researchers might want to know, I will post it here: http://www.familytreedna.com/(mu3u4s55iu24wg55lhlim13w)/public/PhillipsWorld wide/index.aspx?fixed_columns=on > > In case this link does not work for you, here is the long way. Go to familytreedna.com. Fill in Phillips in the blank under "SEARCH A DNA PROJECT". This will take you to a page that lists about nine projects. Click on "Phillips Worldwide". This will take you to the sign up page for the Phillips Worldwide DNA project. Click on www.familytreedna.com/public/PhillipsWorldwide. This will take you to the website for the Phillips Worldwide DNA project. Click on "Y Results" at the top of the page. This will take you to the DNA chart. If anyone has trouble following these instructions, please feel free to contact me. > > Sincerely, > Nancy Kiser > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Unless (unlikely) the cherokee tribe spontaneously invented the name 'Phillips' then anyone who was born with the surname PHILLIPS was the offspring of some British male immigrant and hence never "full-blooded indian" Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Phillips" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 13 October 2006 15:39 Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > My husband / siblings grew up "knowing" (oral history) that there was > American Indian in their ancestry, but the origin is unknown. His PHILLIPS > roots are predominantly western MA with a little spill-over into Vernon and > Guilford,VT. I suspect the native line may be a maternal one since the > PHILLIPS line traces back to Rev. George PHILLIPS who "came with Gov. > Winthrop on the 'Arbella' in 1630." ~Sally > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:54 PM > Subject: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7590 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Looking for anyone with the Phillips name with Indian heritage. Can't find > > anything on my gr gr grandmother who's maiden name was Phillips and she > > was full blooded indian. I have been told that she was cherokee but have > > no proof of that, I am sure she was indian as I have a picture of her. > > Anything would help > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: > > 01/10/2006 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Not exactly true.. When the trail of tears took place and native americans were taken into captive and forced to be educated, often the school nun (typically a nun and not a reg. school teacher) would list on the board common "english" surnames and the students were forced to choose one. So in all actuality, they could have "adopted" the name and still have been a full blood. Tootles Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > Unless (unlikely) the cherokee tribe spontaneously invented the name > 'Phillips' then anyone who was born with the surname PHILLIPS was the > offspring of some British male immigrant and hence never "full-blooded > indian" > > Bryan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sally Phillips" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 13 October 2006 15:39 > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > My husband / siblings grew up "knowing" (oral history) that there was > > American Indian in their ancestry, but the origin is unknown. His > PHILLIPS > > roots are predominantly western MA with a little spill-over into Vernon > and > > Guilford,VT. I suspect the native line may be a maternal one since the > > PHILLIPS line traces back to Rev. George PHILLIPS who "came with Gov. > > Winthrop on the 'Arbella' in 1630." ~Sally > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:54 PM > > Subject: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7590 > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > Looking for anyone with the Phillips name with Indian heritage. Can't > find > > > anything on my gr gr grandmother who's maiden name was Phillips and she > > > was full blooded indian. I have been told that she was cherokee but have > > > no proof of that, I am sure she was indian as I have a picture of her. > > > Anything would help > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: > > > 01/10/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] Early origins > Doug, > > I wouldn't call it vast but this may interest the list. > > It was sent to me by a [ Phillips ] uncle who copied it unashamedly from > an > old book about British aristocracy. My uncle has been dead for 20 years > himself so I hope it breaks no-one's copyright. There is no significance > in > the spelling of Phillips/Philipps/ so far back. > > Bryan Phillips (born in Wales but now in Brighton - England) > > *********** > ""Perhaps in the whole of the peerage there is no more fascinating study > than that of the Philipps family, the representative of which is Viscount > St. Davids. > > Their authentic pedigree goes back to the time of the Norman conquest but > the descent is not traced from anything so common as a Norman invader. The > ancestry is Welsh and even in the tenth century the family had a tradition > that they were descended from the hapless King of Kent, Vortigern, who is > suppposed to have invited the Saxons, Hengist and Horsa, into England > with > their followers. > > Vortigern's name occurs in the legend of King Arthur and his Knights , but > the Philipps have not been content with even this early ancestry for they > went on to trace descent, or at least to assert it, from Maximus the Roman > General who set up a separate state in Britain in the 4th century and made > himself for a while master of the Channel by controlling the Roman fleet. > > Although this descent from Maximus and Vortigern no longer appears in > peerage books, it is a fact that the Philipps family do trace their > ancestry > to a period which ante-dates nearly all the other noble families in the > peerage."" > > ******************** > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 12 October 2006 12:37 > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] false information about Phillips > FamilyofWestVirginia > > >> We are very busy, but would welcome your vast knowledge of clan, and your >> participation. >> >> Doug >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/5608.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Another mail lister asked me for a link to the DNA chart that is posted at Phillips Worldwide. Since I think this could be a question that many Phillips researchers might want to know, I will post it here: http://www.familytreedna.com/(mu3u4s55iu24wg55lhlim13w)/public/PhillipsWorldwide/index.aspx?fixed_columns=on In case this link does not work for you, here is the long way. Go to familytreedna.com. Fill in Phillips in the blank under "SEARCH A DNA PROJECT". This will take you to a page that lists about nine projects. Click on "Phillips Worldwide". This will take you to the sign up page for the Phillips Worldwide DNA project. Click on www.familytreedna.com/public/PhillipsWorldwide. This will take you to the website for the Phillips Worldwide DNA project. Click on "Y Results" at the top of the page. This will take you to the DNA chart. If anyone has trouble following these instructions, please feel free to contact me. Sincerely, Nancy Kiser

Doug, I wouldn't call it vast but this may interest the list. It was sent to me by a [ Phillips ] uncle who copied it unashamedly from an old book about British aristocracy. My uncle has been dead for 20 years himself so I hope it breaks no-one's copyright. There is no significance in the spelling of Phillips/Philipps/ so far back. Bryan Phillips (born in Wales but now in Brighton - England) *********** ""Perhaps in the whole of the peerage there is no more fascinating study than that of the Philipps family, the representative of which is Viscount St. Davids. Their authentic pedigree goes back to the time of the Norman conquest but the descent is not traced from anything so common as a Norman invader. The ancestry is Welsh and even in the tenth century the family had a tradition that they were descended from the hapless King of Kent, Vortigern, who is suppposed to have invited the Saxons, Hengist and Horsa, into England with their followers. Vortigern's name occurs in the legend of King Arthur and his Knights , but the Philipps have not been content with even this early ancestry for they went on to trace descent, or at least to assert it, from Maximus the Roman General who set up a separate state in Britain in the 4th century and made himself for a while master of the Channel by controlling the Roman fleet. Although this descent from Maximus and Vortigern no longer appears in peerage books, it is a fact that the Philipps family do trace their ancestry to a period which ante-dates nearly all the other noble families in the peerage."" ******************** ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 12 October 2006 12:37 Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] false information about Phillips FamilyofWestVirginia > We are very busy, but would welcome your vast knowledge of clan, and your > participation. > > Doug > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Phillips, Dyer, Howe, Martin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/5608.4 Message Board Post: Sandra, I have also incorporated the middle name "Fretwell" in my research. Unfortunately, validated info gets mixed with bad info. Years ago, a research from the Kittle side of the family said that Thomas Phillips came from England and had proof of such. A. J. Phillips did some early research on Thomas Phillips and had him back to the New England Phillips' (Rev. George Phillips of the Massachusetts Bay Colong). I saw some of his work in print, but Thomas Phillips' name had been penciled in under Jonathan and Hepzibah (Parker) Phillips. I always wondered about the indecision! Also, where and how does Crab Creek come into the picture? My uncle, Keith Phillips, travelled to Beverly, WVa., years ago and found nothing about these facts. (?) Hmmm!

Alhthough the following is unlikely to connect with Cherokee, nor descendants of Rev. George Phillips, it should be of some help. Sue Martin has done a great job in her research. And the website listed should also help. Best, Allen http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:Bvox4Y6cQPwJ:freepages.genealogy.rootsweb. com/~massasoit/keith.htm+sue+phillips+%22king+philip%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd =2&ie=UTF-8 [email protected]

Try this site _http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/) Doug Phillips

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Phillips, Dyer, Howe, Martin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/5608.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the info about the DNA testing. I have ordered my test kit. Hopefully, it will answer some questions.

I have a grandfather several generations removed who was said to be a Phillips and also said to be at least one half native american. We believe he was either in the Alabama area or possibly Arkansas area at the time but have been completely unable to track anything concerning him....His name was Eugene Coleman Phillips. I'm not sure but I also think he may have gained his native blood from his mother rather than an actual Phillips. However, years back there was a lady doing research on a Phillips line that descended from King Phillip...forgive me but I don't have the information in front of me and my memory is somewhat vague...I do believe it was King Phillip that was actually an Indian (not a true King) that fought in the New England area and whose tribe left the area moving upward north and possibly on into Canada. Maybe this will be at least a clue for someone. Tootles Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Phillips" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > My husband / siblings grew up "knowing" (oral history) that there was > American Indian in their ancestry, but the origin is unknown. His PHILLIPS > roots are predominantly western MA with a little spill-over into Vernon and > Guilford,VT. I suspect the native line may be a maternal one since the > PHILLIPS line traces back to Rev. George PHILLIPS who "came with Gov. > Winthrop on the 'Arbella' in 1630." ~Sally > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:54 PM > Subject: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7590 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Looking for anyone with the Phillips name with Indian heritage. Can't find > > anything on my gr gr grandmother who's maiden name was Phillips and she > > was full blooded indian. I have been told that she was cherokee but have > > no proof of that, I am sure she was indian as I have a picture of her. > > Anything would help > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: > > 01/10/2006 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My husband / siblings grew up "knowing" (oral history) that there was American Indian in their ancestry, but the origin is unknown. His PHILLIPS roots are predominantly western MA with a little spill-over into Vernon and Guilford,VT. I suspect the native line may be a maternal one since the PHILLIPS line traces back to Rev. George PHILLIPS who "came with Gov. Winthrop on the 'Arbella' in 1630." ~Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7590 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for anyone with the Phillips name with Indian heritage. Can't find > anything on my gr gr grandmother who's maiden name was Phillips and she > was full blooded indian. I have been told that she was cherokee but have > no proof of that, I am sure she was indian as I have a picture of her. > Anything would help > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: > 01/10/2006 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/5608.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Someone posted a question to my message which made it onto the mailing list but not onto this board. Since it was an intelligent question, I thought it would be a good idea to post my reply here so that everyone can see the answer. The question was "If the name of the participant is never published, thereby assuring privacy, then how can other people make use of the information?" The answer is that the participant is notified by familytreedna of any genetic matches. The participant can then contact anyone who matches his DNA, if the person who matches has signed a release. This way people who WANT to can share family history information. In addition, participants are requested to post their earliest known Phillips ancestor on the DNA chart, which is published at the Phillips Worldwide website. If you look at the DNA chart and see the name of your Phillips ancestor, then you can then join the project yourself and get in contact with the person who shares your earliest k! nown Phillips ancestor. Alternatively, you can simply contact Shannon Phillips, the administrator of the project, and ask to be put in touch with the person who shares your earliest known Phillips ancestor. Sincerely, Nancy Kiser