Murphey, do you have any Joshua Phillips or Jacob Phillips in your notes? Thanks, Jim Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: [PHILLIPS] James Phillips Died 1802 VA > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Phillips, Philips > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/7612 > > Message Board Post: > > James Philips/Phillips estimated to be born before 1752?, died 1802 > Pittsylvania County, VA. I am looking for any clues and/or information on > who his parents were. I will share what I have on his descendants. > > Murphey > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/7598.1 Message Board Post: Brenda, I believe you are talking about Bennet Phillips who was born 27 Dec 1763 in Somerset County, MD and died 20 Sept 1842 in Rutherford County, TN. He is supposedly the great great grandson of Roger Phillips who died 1699 in Somerset County, MD. Valeria Phillips Gildehaus has posted a tree for this family at rootsweb. Here is a link: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=valeriejean&id=I1044 Three male Phillips descendants of this family have joined the Phillips Worldwide DNA project and gotten their DNA tested. They are shown as family group 7 on the DNA chart at this link: http://www.familytreedna.com/(ziu11ymztup4ogunthivwg55)/public/PhillipsWorldwide/index.aspx?fixed_columns=on Hope this info helps. Sincerely, Nancy Kiser

My four great grandfather was Evan Phillips who was born in Wales about 1760. Evan married Jane Unknown about 1782 and died in Belmont County, Ohio by January 1824. Based upon the name of one of their daughters I suspect Jane’s maiden name was Latimer as this daughter was named Jane Latimer Phillips. Evan is shown on the 1785/6, 1790/91 and 1795 Property Tax Lists of Ohio County, Virginia (currently West Virginia) as well as 1802, 1803 and 1805 Belmont County Tax List with 160 acres in Richland Township. Evan purchased his Belmont County land the sixth day of May, 1799. The transaction and deed were executed in Jefferson County, Ohio. This deed states that Evan was from the County of Ohio and State of Virginia. Also it states that he paid five hundred and sixty dollars in cash for the property, which was a large sum of money for that time. According to a History of Belmont County Evan, Enoch and John Phillips were early settlers of Belmont County, Ohio. Evan had sons by these names, but they would have been too young to be the persons referred to in this History so these men were probably related to Evan in some way. I have never been able to make any connections. In 1817 a David Phillips from Loudoun County, Virginia also moved to Belmont County, Ohio. He is possibly another brother since I feel he is the David Phillips who was a witness for Jane Phillips’ Will.. At the time of his death Evan still owned the 160 acres of land in Richland Township, Belmont County, Ohio. His son Enoch who had moved to Guernsey County, Ohio, preceded him in death. Evan’s wife, Jane was born between 1775 and 1794 based upon the 1820 Belmont, Ohio census. She died before June 1825 in Belmont County, Ohio. I have a great deal of information on my Phillips ancestors posted on the Belmont and Guernsey County, Ohio GENWEB sites if more information is desired. I would love to communicate with any descendants of these two people and would especially like to know who their ancestors were.

We Welsh don't convert to Judaism or Mohammedism , we build stone circles at Stonehenge and Carnac for ignorant Saxons to argue about. later. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 16 October 2006 07:45 Subject: Religious vs. Ethnic > Bryan: > > > Many cases of a Phillips converting to Judaism and Islam. Doesn't make them > any less Welsh. > > Doug >

Thanks Doug. I belong to the Ackley mailing list as well and have been in contact with Alan Ackley. He gave me loads of info re Viola but nothing re John. I already had the info he had. I have traced back from my husband to John Carter, through his many moves - from Canada to the US and back again. There is also a story of native american blood in this family but so far, have not been able to verify that. This is one of the reasons I want to find John Carter with his parents. Any help or ideas is very much appreciated. Cheers, Bobbie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Phillips, Philips Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/7612 Message Board Post: James Philips/Phillips estimated to be born before 1752?, died 1802 Pittsylvania County, VA. I am looking for any clues and/or information on who his parents were. I will share what I have on his descendants. Murphey

No, We Phillips are a much travelled lot. Starting from Wales we explored germany,Poland and other places -even North and South America. Being hot-blooded Celts we naturally put it about a bit.... What do you regard as Jewish countries? Please show evidence of your assertions before 1100 . That was when we started travelling to avoid the irritating Normans, Saxons etc. Bryan PHILLIPS ----- Original Message ----- From: "PATRICIA RAE" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 16 October 2006 05:32 Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] false information about Phillips FamilyofWestVirginia > not all Phillips families originated from Wales this is false information, > It is a Welsh name. A lot of phillips ancestors, originated from > germany,poland, amd a lot of jewish,s countries. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Phillips" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:39 AM > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] false information about Phillips Family > ofWestVirginia > > > > Hi: > > > > I read with interest that "all Phillips" lines come from Wales. I had > > heard > > that my husband's Phillips family were Welsh. However, John Carter > > Phillips, born c. 1847 in Guelph, Ontario, gave his ethnic origin as > > German > > on the 1901 and 1911 Canadian census. He moved to the states some time > > before 1872 where he married Viola Ackley in Clay County, Iowa. Viola > > was > > born in Wisconsin. > > > > I am having trouble finding any further information about John Carter > > Phillips, particularly his parents. Does anyone recognize this family. > > > > Cheers, Bobbie > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7611 Message Board Post: not related just seen it and thought i'd post it on here. David Laurie Phillips 46 went missing on 06/10/1883 from Salina,Kansas and was last seen traveling by train from kansas to los angeles,ca. he was going to visit his nephew dr.william a phillips. He had sent his nephew a telegram from las vages,new mexico and yuma,nm when the train got to la he never got off.

Dorothy: Both of these families migrated south and west. I took a quick look for Jason in two of my databases with no results. However, have access to several more data bases and will check them as well. Don't know when I will be able to get back to you, but soon, whatever that means. Doug

Bobbie: As an addendum, the only sure way to determine heritage is through a DNA test. Hopefully, you have a male Phillips around that is a descendant of John C that can be tested.

The use of surnames did not begin to be used extensively until the 12th Century. By then there had been one Pope Philip, and several saints named Philip from several countries and the Roman Catholic Church had great societal influence during that that period. Phillips, and many spelling variations, is patronymic (i.e. named after the father Philip, whose sons would be referred to as Philip's sons - hence Philips). The most common Welsh and English version of the surname is spelled with two l's, giving the descendants the surname Phillips and their origins are in Wales.. Other spelling variations are Philipp, Phillip,Philipps, Philips Philp, Phelp, Phalp (English); Philippe, Phelip, Felip, Phelit, Philip, Phalip (French); Filip (Flemish/Dutch)., and there are numerous other diminutive, patronymic forms from other languages. For example, two Celtic (Cornish) names that have been translated to Phillips since the 16th century were originally recorded in the parish records as Felleppe and Phelype who happened to be Father and Son. Go figure. I think Phillips is the 45th most common surname in the world and definitely in the US. I will see if I can find anything on John Carter Phillips. However, please remember that Census recorders and even those interviewed were not sure of the spellings or place of births of mothers and fathers. This was particular true in the US in 1860 in the South, just prior to the Civil War, when recorders were known for spelling and providing on their own as they were paid on a per household basis and did not have the checks and balances we have today. Also, names and ancestry were often changed on immigration for various reasons or clerical error. This was particular true at Ellis Island.

Thank you, Joe Cheers, Bobbie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] false information about Phillips Family ofWestVirginia > The use of surnames did not begin to be used extensively until the 12th > Century. By then there had been one Pope Philip, and several saints named > Philip > from several countries and the Roman Catholic Church had great societal > influence during that that period. > > Phillips, and many spelling variations, is patronymic (i.e. named after > the > father Philip, whose sons would be referred to as Philip's sons - hence > Philips). > > The most common Welsh and English version of the surname is spelled with > two > l's, giving the descendants the surname Phillips and their origins are in > Wales.. Other spelling > variations are Philipp, Phillip,Philipps, Philips Philp, Phelp, Phalp > (English); Philippe, Phelip, Felip, Phelit, Philip, Phalip (French); > Filip > (Flemish/Dutch)., and there are numerous other diminutive, patronymic > forms from > other languages. For example, two Celtic (Cornish) names that have been > translated to Phillips since the 16th century were originally recorded > in the parish > records as Felleppe and Phelype who happened to be Father and Son. Go > figure. > I think Phillips is the 45th most common surname in the world and > definitely > in the US. > I will see if I can find anything on John Carter Phillips. However, > please > remember that Census recorders and even those interviewed were not sure > of > the spellings or place of births of mothers and fathers. This was > particular > true in the US in 1860 in the South, just prior to the Civil War, when > recorders were known for spelling and providing on their own as they were > paid on a > per household basis and did not have the checks and balances we have > today. > Also, names and ancestry were often changed on immigration for various > reasons or clerical error. This was particular true at Ellis Island. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, he moved back to Canada sometime before 1901 - I did find him in the 1880 census. Is the 1851 Ontario census on line? If so, would you have the address? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Phillips" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] Phillips of Guelph, ONT to Iowa > Barbara, > > Your post is very confusing. > > You say your John Carter Phillips was born about 1847 in Guelph, > Ontario. Also, that he moved to the states before 1872, and married > Viola Ackley in Iowa. Yet, you found him in the 1901 and 1911 Canadian > census??? So, he moved back to Canada? > > You should be able to find his family listed in the 1851 Ontario Census, > which does list all family members. > > Good luck. > > Bob Phillips > Columbus, Ohio > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Phillips, Wheeler, Malley, Croasdale, Levans Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7610 Message Board Post: I am trying to confirm in a Samuel Phillips I found in several censuses is the Samuel Phillips who was the brother of my g-g-grandmother Emma Phillips. The family I found in the censuses: 1880 (head of household Robert WHEELER, father-in-law ) in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: Sam'l Phillips, age 26 occupation Clerk in Dry Goods Store; Emily Phillips (Samuel's wife) age 24; Their children Walter (b.c.1878) and Alfred (b.c.1879) 1900 census: Camden, New Jersey Samuel Phillips b. Nov 1849 salesman, leather married 25 years Emma wife Dec 1861 6 children born, 6 living Alfred son Sept 1879 stenographer Emily dau May 1881 Samuel Jr. son Nov 1884 clerk, dry goods George son Apr 1886 Florence dau Feb 1888 1910 U.S. census (same address in Camden, NJ) Samuel Phillips head 60 commercial traveler leather goods married 33 years Emily J Phillips wife 53 6 children 6 living Florence R Phillips daughter 22 single, no children, public school teacher Edna E Phillips granddaughter 10 1920 - still in Camden, NJ Samuel Phillips 70 Policeman, special Emily J Phillips wife 63 Samuel Phillips son 36 Married; shipper, wagon works Florence M Phillips 31 daughter, divorced, dressmaker G William MALLEY age 4 9/12; grandson There's a pretty good chance that the Samuel Sr. is the brother of my Emma Phillips (m. Robert Maurice Croasdale & Robert G. Warwick) because a family history told of Samuel Phillips having about 6 children -- some living in Camden, NJ and others in Springfield, Mass. The parents of my Emma and Samuel were Samuel Phillips (who died in the civil war) and the "widow Vanzandt" in our family history -- civil war pension names her as Mary Levans. The Philips may have originally been from Bucks County, PA., but my Emma was born in NJ. and records of her brother Samuel have him born on Nov 5, 1849 to Samuel and Mary Phillips, in Burlington, NJ. Found in Records 1848 - 1878 drawer, roll 8. However, the family was back in Philadelphia by 1860, and that may be why the Samuel I found in the censuses above lists his birthplace as PA (if indeed he is the right guy.) Sorry this is so long -- I'm hoping to connect with a descendant, since I have an old photo that may be Samuel Phillips ("Uncle Sam" written on the back) that I would love to be able to share.

Barbara, Your post is very confusing. You say your John Carter Phillips was born about 1847 in Guelph, Ontario. Also, that he moved to the states before 1872, and married Viola Ackley in Iowa. Yet, you found him in the 1901 and 1911 Canadian census??? So, he moved back to Canada? You should be able to find his family listed in the 1851 Ontario Census, which does list all family members. Good luck. Bob Phillips Columbus, Ohio

Doug, Do you have the Phillips line from these two families? I am still searching for Jason Phillips parents. He was born in 28 Feb. 1767 in Ct. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] PHILLIPS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 28 > There were two prominent Phillips families that settled in Dorchester, > Co.MD > in the 1600's. John Phillips and his second wife, Mary Felton, settled > in > about 1663. Thomas Phillips, his wife Catherine and family members > settled in > 1659. As you can imagine, those two families have proliferated and > migrated > to many States by today. > > There were other Phillips families that settled in MD during the mid > 1600's > as well. > > Do you have the name of your oldest known and proven Phillips ancestor? > > Doug Phillips > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My wife's grandfather Morris Phillips is a Jewish from the Pale in Russia. Gene At 03:39 PM 10/15/2006, you wrote: >Hi: > >I read with interest that "all Phillips" lines come from Wales. I had heard >that my husband's Phillips family were Welsh. However, John Carter >Phillips, born c. 1847 in Guelph, Ontario, gave his ethnic origin as German >on the 1901 and 1911 Canadian census. He moved to the states some time >before 1872 where he married Viola Ackley in Clay County, Iowa. Viola was >born in Wisconsin. > >I am having trouble finding any further information about John Carter >Phillips, particularly his parents. Does anyone recognize this family. > >Cheers, Bobbie > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi: I read with interest that "all Phillips" lines come from Wales. I had heard that my husband's Phillips family were Welsh. However, John Carter Phillips, born c. 1847 in Guelph, Ontario, gave his ethnic origin as German on the 1901 and 1911 Canadian census. He moved to the states some time before 1872 where he married Viola Ackley in Clay County, Iowa. Viola was born in Wisconsin. I am having trouble finding any further information about John Carter Phillips, particularly his parents. Does anyone recognize this family. Cheers, Bobbie

There were two prominent Phillips families that settled in Dorchester, Co.MD in the 1600's. John Phillips and his second wife, Mary Felton, settled in about 1663. Thomas Phillips, his wife Catherine and family members settled in 1659. As you can imagine, those two families have proliferated and migrated to many States by today. There were other Phillips families that settled in MD during the mid 1600's as well. Do you have the name of your oldest known and proven Phillips ancestor? Doug Phillips

For that matter, England has Phillips Bicycles ....but not descended from Vortigern... I shall put Tootles into Google.. Bryan (Phillips by birthright ) ;-)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 14 October 2006 20:43 Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > Yes it is true slaves did take the last name of their owner which could > introduce african american Phillips as well as mulatto and other > mixes.....and sometimes natives lived among the slaves to avoid > removal....likewise sometimes natives were enslaved as well... > > Actually, the topic ,as I read it, was all born with the Phillips last name > could not be full blood...which was what I was addressing.... > > :) > > Tootles > Sharon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:13 PM > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > I understand slaves also sometimes simply took the names of their owners, > > did anyone make slaves of American Indians? but you and I know we are > > talking of descendents of Phillips people from well before 1492 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: 14 October 2006 12:19 > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > Who is starting a thing..this is important geneology information. So > yes, > > > someone could be born with the Phillips name and be full blood > indian...if > > > they were a child of someone that took the name during the "round up" > and > > or > > > their descendants. > > > > > > :) > > > > > > Tootles > > > Sharon > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:39 AM > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > Not guilty ! I did say "Born with ". > > > > > > > > Let's not start a thingy about what is a persons true name ?. Someone > > > once > > > > said "Until I was 14 yrs. old I thought my name was "Shuttup" > [Sat. > > > > joke ]. > > > > > > > > Bryan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Sharon Cobb" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: 14 October 2006 05:39 > > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not exactly true.. > > > > > > > > > > When the trail of tears took place and native americans were taken > > into > > > > > captive and forced to be educated, often the school nun (typically a > > nun > > > > and > > > > > not a reg. school teacher) would list on the board common "english" > > > > surnames > > > > > and the students were forced to choose one. So in all actuality, > they > > > > could > > > > > have "adopted" the name and still have been a full blood. > > > > > > > > > > Tootles > > > > > Sharon > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:34 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless (unlikely) the cherokee tribe spontaneously invented the > name > > > > > > 'Phillips' then anyone who was born with the surname PHILLIPS was > > the > > > > > > offspring of some British male immigrant and hence never > > > > "full-blooded > > > > > > indian" > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Sally Phillips" <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: 13 October 2006 15:39 > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband / siblings grew up "knowing" (oral history) that > there > > > was > > > > > > > American Indian in their ancestry, but the origin is unknown. > His > > > > > > PHILLIPS > > > > > > > roots are predominantly western MA with a little spill-over into > > > > Vernon > > > > > > and > > > > > > > Guilford,VT. I suspect the native line may be a maternal one > > since > > > > the > > > > > > > PHILLIPS line traces back to Rev. George PHILLIPS who "came with > > > Gov. > > > > > > > Winthrop on the 'Arbella' in 1630." ~Sally > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:54 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [PHILLIPS] american indian surname Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/7590 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for anyone with the Phillips name with Indian > heritage. > > > > Can't > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > anything on my gr gr grandmother who's maiden name was > Phillips > > > and > > > > > she > > > > > > > > was full blooded indian. I have been told that she was > cherokee > > > but > > > > > have > > > > > > > > no proof of that, I am sure she was indian as I have a picture > > of > > > > her. > > > > > > > > Anything would help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > > > the > > > > > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release > Date: > > > > > > > > 01/10/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > > > quotes > > > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > > quotes > > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >