I have updated the surname registries on Phillips, Boyle, Cullinan, Flanagan, and Flynn/Flinn sections of my website. If you made submissions to any of the databases, please check your entry for accuracy. If your information has changed or I made a mistake, please submit a new form and put 'change' in the field where you want the change. Also, don't forget to update your email address if it has changed. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

In a message dated 12/3/2006 9:17:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Was Bennet Phillips, 1763 born in Maryland? Doug: Do you have the parents of your Bennet Phillips, and is his father possibly Thomas Phillips? Does Bennet have a sister, or cousin, named Susannah Phillips, born in early 1760s? I have a Phillips family who ended up in Pittsylvania Co. VA in that time frame, but there is a good chance they originally were from Maryland, because they are closely allied with the Sparks family from there. Thanks for any information you can send. Nancy Sicotte

Cal: Seems familiar. Think I worked on this once before. Was Bennet Phillips, 1763 born in Maryland? If so, I can give you two or three additional generations. Doug Phillips

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5538/nNABAIB/7443.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Julie, I don't know of any bernards in my own tree - but I know of a website that covers that area - I was thinking you could follow it up and try there as it's specifically for Ireland searches - lots of useful boards and people who know stuff. http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/index.shtml Hope that helps you a little - if I find a Bernard in my tree later I shall come back to you!!

The earliest date I have ever had for my GreatGrandfather Bennett S. Phillips is 1808 calculated from the age he, or someone, gave to the census enumerator in both the 1850 and 1860 census in Linn county Missouri, and that he was born in KY. I've been watching/reading the queries re "Bennet Phillips 1763" partially because I've probably read every post to the Phillips List since I started it some 15 or so years ago as well as the fact that the given name of Bennet/Bennett hasn't been mentioned half a dozen times in that period. I was on Ancestry the other day and saw some mention of the 1830 U.S. Census and decided to do a quick search. Lo and behold, up comes a "Bennett Phillips" in Rutherford county, TN! I went to the actual listing, expanded it to 200% and without much doubt, the enumerator wrote Bennett S. Philips - my GGF was always meticulous about his middle initial. Further, the household was shown as having one male 20-30 yrs, which would fit my GGF (22 yrs) another male 60-70yrs and two females, one 70-80 and one 20-30. If the head of household was as listed, Bennett S. Philips and he was the 20-30 yr old, that could have very well have been my GGF. Further, two households away was a William B. Philips, the same name given my Grandfather. I remember seeing in one of these recent posts that the Bennet born in 1763 had moved to Rutherford county and taken his family. That would make him about the age of the other male in the household. Can anyone add anything to this? Cal Phillips

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/7443.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: That place sounds familiar to me.. I have been searching for info on my great grandfather Bernard Phillips, who was born around 1843 in Bally? in County Mayo. I have his death certificate (died in 1918 in Australia) but the writing on the certificate stating the town he was born in is indecipherable. Any info you may have would be more than welcome. Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/7598.2.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks so much for responding! I WILL find my ancestors some day, I HOPE! Thanks again! Doris

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/7598.2.2 Message Board Post: hello doris.. i wish i could be of more help to you? but, all i know for now is that my bennet phillips was born in maryland, fought in the revolutionary war in nc, and later moved all his family to rutherford co tn... bennet is my 5th great grandfather.. good luck! brenda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/7598.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Wow! Thanks for the quick reply! I'm sure this is the right family. I will renew my search! I have been out of the circle for a long time, but now is the time to get back! I do appreciate your response. Doris

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Phillips Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/7598.2.1 Message Board Post: Doris, According to her death record (Dodridge Co., WV), Delila Stiles Phillips was born Sep. 2, 1856 in Greene Co., PA, and died Aug. 5, 1923. I am fairly certain this is the wife of Norval Phillips, since her maiden name was Stiles. The informant listed on the death certificate is Clyde Phillips. Clyde was a son of Norval and Delila. Norval is listed as a son of Asbury and Orpha in the 1850 Census. Unfortunately, I don't have any more information on Asbury and Orpha than you do. Jim Preston

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Phillips;Stiles;Wise;Underwood;Cumberledge;Lowe;Morgan;Ice Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/7598.2 Message Board Post: I have long been researching my Great Grandfather Norval BENNETT Phillips B: 1848 died 10 Sep 1926. I believe he was born in Greene Co. PA. son of Asberry Phillips ca1819 and Orpha Wise ca 1821. Norvall BENNETT Phillips was married to Delila Jane Stiles B: 9/1852 died 1855. Could your family of Bennett Phillips be some relation? I can find no ancestors of Asberry Phillips. I have searched another Asberry born the same year, who died in the Civil War, but this is NOT my man. My Great-Grandfather lived after that death date, to sire more children. I can find no info about the parents of my Norval Bennett Phillips other than birth/death dates and the possible siblings of Joseph A. and Phoebe. I have been told there were 12 children born of this union. Any help or guidence would be greatly appreciated. Doris Phillips Behnke

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I would very much like to see examples of these Hindi and Sikh names .. ...a mans name is that by which he is _called_ . No-one ever calls me Bryan Phillipswithtwoellsbutonepee. A drill seargeant did once say to me " "Whats yer name ? Phillips? well get over there with the Effs. Spelling before 1800 means very little Bryan Quoting [email protected]: > > > Among others, both Hindi and Sikh Indians, Turks and Turk Cypriots (Muslim > countries) have their versions of "son of Philip?" > "son of Philip?" > > > -- ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

Report out in next 60 days. Doug

I readily believe that the name has been adopted by all sorts of folk. we are nothing of not Fecund Fillips ther is no significance in spelling variations. It is simply due to the fact when there we few people able to write and even fewer able to read , there was no way to convey or maintain any particular spelling. I simply said "it is not an Indian name" bryan Quoting [email protected]: > Wales is only one of several dozen countries that has one or more versions > of "son of Philip," and Wales was NOT the first to use a variation of "son of > > Philip." > > Among others, both Hindi and Sikh Indians, Turks and Turk Cypriots (Muslim > countries) have their versions of "son of Philip?" > > Phillips is one of many variations of "son of Philip" worldwide, including > middle Africa. > There are about 300 variations of the surname Phillips, over 750 using > Soundex. > > > So why is it so hard to believe that Native Americans either adopted the > surname Phillips, or had/have their own variation of "son of Philip?" > > > The original Welsh variation was Philipps and is used rarely now. Phillips > > is now the most common, followed by Philips. > > True descendant claimants of the Welsh Philipps have changed their ancestors > > names to Phillips to fit their own surnames on several Internet published > pedigrees. > > For Captain Bryan, true to your guidance (thank you), I have found evidence > > that the Welsh Philipps family, not the surname, can trace its ancestry to > Magnus Maximus and beyond to Constantine the Great, The Ruler of the Holy > Roman > Empire. > > Also Cydifor Fawr (The Great), in this family line, was probably one of the > > original 15 ancient Welsh peerages named by William the Conqueror. Cydifor > > Fawr lived between 1030 AD and 1091 AD and his son, Bledri Latimer (The > Interpreter), was the go between the Normans and the Welsh. > > The tie to Magnus Maximus is a fun legend and even may be true, but the > information on Cydifor Fawr has solid documentation. > > Doug Phillips > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

Being a Brit., the word 'Indian' means from India to me - I've been there and never met a Phillips - but I realise that it means what I call red indian over in US. Nevertheless an indian person may well call himself Phillips but that no more makes Phillips an 'indian' name than my calling myself Geronimo would make Geronimo a Welsh name. Good will to all, Bryan Quoting Sharon Cobb <[email protected]>: > lol > > I thought we had this round not long ago? > > Just because a name didn't start Native American doesn't mean it didn't end > up there! :) > > Tootles > Sharon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sherri" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:01 PM > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] Rebecca Phillips Walls > > > > Capt. - > > > > Carl is one of many indian folks with the last name Phillips in the U.S. > Take a visit anywhere in the southern part of the country (NC, VA, GA, TN, > MO, OK, AR, TX), and you'll meet indian people with the last name Phillips. > In OK alone, there are PLENTY of people with the last name. > > > > The name may be welsh, but that doesn't mean everyone who has the last > name is or was ever welsh. > > > > Sherri Phillips > > > > Carl Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > My name is Phillips and I am a registered member of > > the Choctaw tribe. > > Carl > > > > > > > > > > > > --- captbrian wrote: > > > > > Phillips is not Indian. > > > > > > > > > Bryan Phillips > > > > > > Quoting [email protected]: > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to > > > this mailing list. > > > > > > > > Surnames: Witsman > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/6186.2 > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > Dear Peggy, > > > > > > > > Hi, my name is Dennis Witsman and Mary Witsman is > > > the daughter of Conrad and > > > > Mary Witsman. You can reach me by my email > > > address [email protected], if you > > > > what a copy of my ged file. The Witsman name I > > > was told was Germary or > > > > Prussian. But Phillips could be Indian. You have > > > any questions, send me an > > > > email. > > > > > > > > Keep in Touch, > > > > > > > > Dennis Witsman > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > > to > > > > [email protected] with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > > to [email protected] with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Carl Phillips > > Hangtown > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

Phillips is not Indian. Bryan Phillips Quoting [email protected]: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Witsman > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/6186.2 > > Message Board Post: > > Dear Peggy, > > Hi, my name is Dennis Witsman and Mary Witsman is the daughter of Conrad and > Mary Witsman. You can reach me by my email address [email protected], if you > what a copy of my ged file. The Witsman name I was told was Germary or > Prussian. But Phillips could be Indian. You have any questions, send me an > email. > > Keep in Touch, > > Dennis Witsman > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

Wales is only one of several dozen countries that has one or more versions of "son of Philip," and Wales was NOT the first to use a variation of "son of Philip." Among others, both Hindi and Sikh Indians, Turks and Turk Cypriots (Muslim countries) have their versions of "son of Philip?" Phillips is one of many variations of "son of Philip" worldwide, including middle Africa. There are about 300 variations of the surname Phillips, over 750 using Soundex. So why is it so hard to believe that Native Americans either adopted the surname Phillips, or had/have their own variation of "son of Philip?" The original Welsh variation was Philipps and is used rarely now. Phillips is now the most common, followed by Philips. True descendant claimants of the Welsh Philipps have changed their ancestors names to Phillips to fit their own surnames on several Internet published pedigrees. For Captain Bryan, true to your guidance (thank you), I have found evidence that the Welsh Philipps family, not the surname, can trace its ancestry to Magnus Maximus and beyond to Constantine the Great, The Ruler of the Holy Roman Empire. Also Cydifor Fawr (The Great), in this family line, was probably one of the original 15 ancient Welsh peerages named by William the Conqueror. Cydifor Fawr lived between 1030 AD and 1091 AD and his son, Bledri Latimer (The Interpreter), was the go between the Normans and the Welsh. The tie to Magnus Maximus is a fun legend and even may be true, but the information on Cydifor Fawr has solid documentation. Doug Phillips

Well that would be in respect to the origin of the name...not the name itself :) Wanna fight? *puts up dukes* lol Yea the proper term/politically correct term is Native American since the word Indian did come from the fact that Columbus thought he was in India when he landed on the American Continent. However, many native americans do not like that terms because it groups them all together and their lose their identity as a specific group. Tootles Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "captbrian" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] Rebecca Phillips Walls > Being a Brit., the word 'Indian' means from India to me - I've been there and > never met a Phillips - but I realise that it means what I call red indian over > in US. Nevertheless an indian person may well call himself Phillips but that > no more makes Phillips an 'indian' name than my calling myself Geronimo would > make Geronimo a Welsh name. > > Good will to all, > > Bryan > > Quoting Sharon Cobb <[email protected]>: > > > lol > > > > I thought we had this round not long ago? > > > > Just because a name didn't start Native American doesn't mean it didn't end > > up there! :) > > > > Tootles > > Sharon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sherri" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [PHILLIPS] Rebecca Phillips Walls > > > > > > > Capt. - > > > > > > Carl is one of many indian folks with the last name Phillips in the U.S. > > Take a visit anywhere in the southern part of the country (NC, VA, GA, TN, > > MO, OK, AR, TX), and you'll meet indian people with the last name Phillips. > > In OK alone, there are PLENTY of people with the last name. > > > > > > The name may be welsh, but that doesn't mean everyone who has the last > > name is or was ever welsh. > > > > > > Sherri Phillips > > > > > > Carl Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > My name is Phillips and I am a registered member of > > > the Choctaw tribe. > > > Carl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- captbrian wrote: > > > > > > > Phillips is not Indian. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan Phillips > > > > > > > > Quoting [email protected]: > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to > > > > this mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > Surnames: Witsman > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nNABAIB/6186.2 > > > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Peggy, > > > > > > > > > > Hi, my name is Dennis Witsman and Mary Witsman is > > > > the daughter of Conrad and > > > > > Mary Witsman. You can reach me by my email > > > > address [email protected], if you > > > > > what a copy of my ged file. The Witsman name I > > > > was told was Germary or > > > > > Prussian. But Phillips could be Indian. You have > > > > any questions, send me an > > > > > email. > > > > > > > > > > Keep in Touch, > > > > > > > > > > Dennis Witsman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > > > to > > > > > [email protected] with the word > > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > > > to [email protected] with the word > > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Carl Phillips > > > Hangtown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > ________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nNABAIB/2940.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Nancy -- Today I was lucky and without trying 'tripped' over the proof that this man is not my ancestor --- I found the following on IGI records (note that Orisa is shown to have descended from Canadian parents to NY, although her name is now spelled Horace!). While the melodic name, Orisa did intrigue me, and I have learned that it is a Yoruba name for the Divine, and a female forename normally associated with Afro-American lineage, here Orisa is listed as of non-African parents.: John PHILIPPES Self M Male W 62 ENG Works For R.R.C. ENG ENG Horace PHILIPPES Wife M Female W 50 NY Keeping House CAN CAN Alla PHILIPPES Dau S Female W 15 OH At School ENG NY Eva PHILIPPES GDau S Female W 9 OH At School OH OH -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio - Family History Library Film 1255007 - NA Film Number T9-1007 - Page Number 199C Thus Orisa was alive in 1880, and with her husband and two female children, Alla and Eva. Meanwhile, my own grandmother was about 9 years old, living with her own two parents also in Ohio or perhaps visiting Wales. Thus I am back at the start again - although this information may prove helpful to others. But where to now re my ancestors? -- One possible new lead I am exploring is that Wiliam's parents may be John and Rachel Phillips of Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire. If so, William was born in 1814, and was several years older than on the UK Census of 1881. Another option is that he was born in Chipping Norton in 1820, parents yet unknown at this time. I am looking for data to resolve the dilemma. Kind regards, Mel.