I've been transcribing a probate for JEREMIAN PHELAN today. I have already transcribed part of it which can be seen on the Kane County Illnois website. The pages I'm transcribing today have not been distributed as of today. I'm having trouble reading a town name and I though maybe this group had Phelan's from this area and could help me. Jeremiah Phelan d 1872 in Kane County, Illinois. His living relatives are as follows: ROBERT PHELAN (his father) MARY PHELAN (his mother), MARGARET SLATTERY(?) (his sister) who resides at Donoughmore, Georgetown, County of Kilkenney, Ireland; ELLEN HOLIHAN(?) (his sister), who resides at Independence, Montgomery County, Kansas; MARY DAWLY(?) (his sister) who resides at 51 Goarck St., New York City, PATRICK PHELAN (his brother) who resides and Plato Kane County Illinois, and the official (his brother) who likewise resides in Kane County Illinois. I can't seem to find DONOUGHMORE, GEORGETOWN, COUNTY OF KILKENNEY. I'm guessing Kilkenney is Kilkenny, witout the extra e. Has anyone done research in Ireland that could help me with this? Thanks. Dawn

Hi Dawn, The answers to your queries are:- a) Did Ireland have nick names to areas, such as Windy City? The answer is no as people traveled only in the proximity of their area. b) Did County Boundaries change? No, as they were tribal areas. c) I mentioned that Robert was not a common Christian name because it is of Norman derivation. Therefore the child has been named out of respect to the settlers family on the estate which they lived. In Ireland, at that time, you would give your address conventionally as Townland, then the Parish and then the County. Therefore, to follow the address properly, it states that they lived in the townland of Donoughmore, in the parish of Georgetown, in the county of Kilkenny. Here we have the difficulty:- Georgestown is in Waterford and not Kilkenny. There is no Georgetown in Kilkenny. Donoughmore, is a parish in Cork. There are three Donaghmore's elsewhere (Laois, Meath and Tyrone). Note: The spelling is different in Donoughmore to Donaghmore. The Phelans I referred to are from Upper Ossory, whilst the Phelans in Waterford, Kilkenny and Cork are from the Deisi. Although they have the same name they come from two different families. I think that Robert came from the Deisi as they spread into Kilkenny and Cork from Waterford. The most credible answer is that, since there is only one Donoughmore in Ireland, he came from that Parish lying halfway between Macroom and Mallow.The possibility is that Georgetown is the Townland within the Parish of Donoughmore in the County of Cork. To research the information you require go to:- http://cork.local.ie/genealogy/ Good hunting, Henry. ----- Original Message ----- From: <HASBENN@aol.com> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 11:11 PM Subject: [Phelan] Ireland Phelan help > I've been transcribing a probate for JEREMIAN PHELAN today. I have already > transcribed part of it which can be seen on the Kane County Illnois website. > The pages I'm transcribing today have not been distributed as of today. > > I'm having trouble reading a town name and I though maybe this group had > Phelan's from this area and could help me. > > Jeremiah Phelan d 1872 in Kane County, Illinois. His living relatives are as > follows: > ROBERT PHELAN (his father) MARY PHELAN (his mother), MARGARET SLATTERY(?) > (his sister) who resides at Donoughmore, Georgetown, County of Kilkenney, > Ireland; ELLEN HOLIHAN(?) (his sister), who resides at Independence, > Montgomery County, Kansas; MARY DAWLY(?) (his sister) who resides at 51 > Goarck St., New York City, PATRICK PHELAN (his brother) who resides and Plato > Kane County Illinois, and the official (his brother) who likewise resides in > Kane County Illinois. > > I can't seem to find DONOUGHMORE, GEORGETOWN, COUNTY OF KILKENNEY. I'm > guessing Kilkenney is Kilkenny, witout the extra e. Has anyone done research > in Ireland that could help me with this? > > Thanks. > Dawn > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: Whats good for the goose is good for the gander > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >