Yeah, a lot of them Phelan boys had names like James, Thomas & Jeremiah. Oh, if they had only known how difficult it was going to be for the future generation to track them then they would have used names like Abijah - right?? Glenda > Are we talking about the same Senator James Phelan? The one I'm talking > about, James DuVal Phelan, mayor of San Francisco at the time of the great > earthquake, was born in 1861 and died in 1930. See > http://www.sfmuseum.org/hist1/phelanbio.html > I am not aware of any other Senator James Phelan. It seems quite > unlikely his father came to America in 1793. Yet the latter is a "fit" for > the person who was the brother of my great great grandfather, James Phelan, > because (a) 1793 is plausible and (b) he came from Co Laois (Queens) where > Phelans do come from but not with the abundance of Cork, Kilarney and > Waterford. > Correction -- I note a reference to a Senator James Phelan, Mississippi > Senator in first Confederate Congress, 1861-63]. See > http://geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/1864/aldridge_letters.htm > Confusing to say the least. Any comments? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <DUMahin@aol.com> > To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 6:25 AM > Subject: Re: [Phelan] James Phelan > > > > Glenda: > > > > Since the Irish immigrant, John Phelan, came to America in 1793, it is > > probable that his son Senator James Phelan was born after that date > because: > > (1) if born before l793 James would have been too old to have been active > > during the Civil War and an active lawyer after the war; (2) the birth of > > his grandson in l883 suggests that the senator was born 50 or 60 years > > earlier in the 1820s or l830s. If the senator had been born in Ireland > before > > l793, he would have been at least 80 in 1783 and would probably have been > the > > child's great-grandfather. > > > > If you have any comments on these conclusions, please let me know. Thanks > > for your help. > > > > > > Dean B. Mahin DUMahin@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > > Irish Proverb: As the old cock crows, the young cock learns. > > > > ============================== > > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > > If you know how to reduce these risks. > > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: A wild goose never reared a tame gosling. > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

I agree soooooo many James, Thomas, and Jeremiah names in my line. Kenneth Womack wrote: > Yeah, a lot of them Phelan boys had names like James, Thomas & Jeremiah. > Oh, if they had only known how difficult it was going to be for the future > generation to track them then they would have used names like Abijah - > right?? Glenda > > > Are we talking about the same Senator James Phelan? The one I'm > talking > > about, James DuVal Phelan, mayor of San Francisco at the time of the great > > earthquake, was born in 1861 and died in 1930. See > > http://www.sfmuseum.org/hist1/phelanbio.html > > I am not aware of any other Senator James Phelan. It seems quite > > unlikely his father came to America in 1793. Yet the latter is a "fit" for > > the person who was the brother of my great great grandfather, James > Phelan, > > because (a) 1793 is plausible and (b) he came from Co Laois (Queens) where > > Phelans do come from but not with the abundance of Cork, Kilarney and > > Waterford. > > Correction -- I note a reference to a Senator James Phelan, > Mississippi > > Senator in first Confederate Congress, 1861-63]. See > > http://geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/1864/aldridge_letters.htm > > Confusing to say the least. Any comments? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <DUMahin@aol.com> > > To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 6:25 AM > > Subject: Re: [Phelan] James Phelan > > > > > > > Glenda: > > > > > > Since the Irish immigrant, John Phelan, came to America in 1793, it is > > > probable that his son Senator James Phelan was born after that date > > because: > > > (1) if born before l793 James would have been too old to have been > active > > > during the Civil War and an active lawyer after the war; (2) the birth > of > > > his grandson in l883 suggests that the senator was born 50 or 60 years > > > earlier in the 1820s or l830s. If the senator had been born in Ireland > > before > > > l793, he would have been at least 80 in 1783 and would probably have > been > > the > > > child's great-grandfather. > > > > > > If you have any comments on these conclusions, please let me know. > Thanks > > > for your help. > > > > > > > > > Dean B. Mahin DUMahin@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > > > Irish Proverb: As the old cock crows, the young cock learns. > > > > > > ============================== > > > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > > > If you know how to reduce these risks. > > > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > > > > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > > Irish Proverb: A wild goose never reared a tame gosling. > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: If you lie down with dogs, you'll rise with fleas. > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

I second that. I have a Thomas Phelan too and can't find him anywhere. Also have a Catherine and can't find her either. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: Tara Van Nostrand <tvannost@rider.edu> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: February 08, 2001 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Phelan] James Phelan > I agree soooooo many James, Thomas, and Jeremiah names in my line. > > Kenneth Womack wrote: > > > Yeah, a lot of them Phelan boys had names like James, Thomas & Jeremiah. > > Oh, if they had only known how difficult it was going to be for the future > > generation to track them then they would have used names like Abijah - > > right?? Glenda > > > > > Are we talking about the same Senator James Phelan? The one I'm > > talking > > > about, James DuVal Phelan, mayor of San Francisco at the time of the great > > > earthquake, was born in 1861 and died in 1930. See > > > http://www.sfmuseum.org/hist1/phelanbio.html > > > I am not aware of any other Senator James Phelan. It seems quite > > > unlikely his father came to America in 1793. Yet the latter is a "fit" for > > > the person who was the brother of my great great grandfather, James > > Phelan, > > > because (a) 1793 is plausible and (b) he came from Co Laois (Queens) where > > > Phelans do come from but not with the abundance of Cork, Kilarney and > > > Waterford. > > > Correction -- I note a reference to a Senator James Phelan, > > Mississippi > > > Senator in first Confederate Congress, 1861-63]. See > > > http://geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/1864/aldridge_letters.htm > > > Confusing to say the least. Any comments? > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <DUMahin@aol.com> > > > To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 6:25 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Phelan] James Phelan > > > > > > > > > > Glenda: > > > > > > > > Since the Irish immigrant, John Phelan, came to America in 1793, it is > > > > probable that his son Senator James Phelan was born after that date > > > because: > > > > (1) if born before l793 James would have been too old to have been > > active > > > > during the Civil War and an active lawyer after the war; (2) the birth > > of > > > > his grandson in l883 suggests that the senator was born 50 or 60 years > > > > earlier in the 1820s or l830s. If the senator had been born in Ireland > > > before > > > > l793, he would have been at least 80 in 1783 and would probably have > > been > > > the > > > > child's great-grandfather. > > > > > > > > If you have any comments on these conclusions, please let me know. > > Thanks > > > > for your help. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dean B. Mahin DUMahin@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > > > > Irish Proverb: As the old cock crows, the young cock learns. > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > > > > If you know how to reduce these risks. > > > > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > > > Irish Proverb: A wild goose never reared a tame gosling. > > > > > > ============================== > > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > > Irish Proverb: If you lie down with dogs, you'll rise with fleas. > > > > ============================== > > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: Whats good for the goose is good for the gander > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ >